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Live Thread: U.N. Set To Vote Within Hours On Palestinian State Recognition
Reuters ^ | 11/29/2012

Posted on 11/29/2012 10:48:46 AM PST by silentknight

(Reuters) - The U.N. General Assembly is set to approve an implicit recognition of Palestinian statehood on Thursday despite threats by the United States and Israel to punish the Palestinian Authority by withholding funds for the West Bank government.

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U.N. set to vote within the next few hours.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: israel; palestine; palestinestatehood; palestinian; unvotestatehood; us; war
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1 posted on 11/29/2012 10:48:54 AM PST by silentknight
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To: silentknight

The vote will be broadcast live

http://webtv.un.org/


2 posted on 11/29/2012 10:50:25 AM PST by silentknight
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To: silentknight

As my grandkids say ... big whoop.


3 posted on 11/29/2012 10:50:50 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: silentknight

Does this mean Israel will now have a legal party to declare war upon?


4 posted on 11/29/2012 10:52:25 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

It’s a big whoop if they name Jerusalem as its capitol.


5 posted on 11/29/2012 10:55:14 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: silentknight

Has obama announced a seven-year plan for ‘peace and security’ yet?


6 posted on 11/29/2012 10:56:10 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: massgopguy

This could be a good reason to withdraw from the filthy crowd of socialists, thugs and dictators and let them all move to Paris.


7 posted on 11/29/2012 11:03:21 AM PST by jessduntno ("Socialism only works...in Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they have it." - RR)
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To: silentknight

Not exactly a nail biter.

It’ll easily sail through


8 posted on 11/29/2012 11:05:21 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: F15Eagle

“Has obama announced a seven-year plan for ‘peace and security’ yet?”

As soon as he finishes the back nine.


9 posted on 11/29/2012 11:06:23 AM PST by MichaelCorleone ('We the People' can and will take this country back...starting today.)
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To: GeronL

Can the U. S. veto this?

We’ve vetoed lots of other things. We’ve vetoed many things strictly related to Israel too.

Besides, isn’t this just an elevated status for the Arabs on the West Bank and Gaza, and not full nationhood?


10 posted on 11/29/2012 11:10:38 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and over 60 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: massgopguy

If they do, I say give the U. N. thirty days to vacate our soil, at which point the U. N. building will be raised.


11 posted on 11/29/2012 11:12:28 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and over 60 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: DoughtyOne

No veto’s in the General Assembly, that would be the Security Council.

This is all symbolic of course, the UN doesn’t have the power to decide what is and what is not a country


12 posted on 11/29/2012 11:13:05 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: silentknight

3 pm, right? I’ll be picking up my son from school but will be anxious to get back!


13 posted on 11/29/2012 11:14:54 AM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: MichaelCorleone

lol - well Obama does have that $4-million-dollar vacation coming up!


14 posted on 11/29/2012 11:22:08 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: silentknight

15 posted on 11/29/2012 11:24:22 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: GeronL

Okay thanks. I thought some of the condemnation votes against Israel had taken place in the General Assembly and had been vetoed by the U. S.

Frankly, I couldn’t tell you what does or doesn’t make a country official.

It would seem that 185 or so nations recognizing it as such, and only a few objecting, it would pretty much be a done deal.

After 1948, it’s not really Israeli territory is it?

Come to think of it, didn’t the Arabs on the West Bank and Gaza refuse to sign that agreement? Are all the prior lands still considered one parcel due to that? I don’t honestly know.

If so, Israel would seem to have the final say.


16 posted on 11/29/2012 11:24:32 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and over 60 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: silentknight

17 posted on 11/29/2012 11:25:41 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Israel should agree to it. Then give them Gaza and move everyone out of the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

Then wall it off.


18 posted on 11/29/2012 11:36:28 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (George W. Bush is the Emmanuel Goldstein of the modern era.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Living in NYC i can tell you those buildings are pretty ugly.


19 posted on 11/29/2012 11:43:05 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: massgopguy

I read that they were going to recognize the 1967 border and then they would immediately declare that Israel is illegally in occupation of the West Bank.


20 posted on 11/29/2012 11:45:36 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Why is the government more concerned about protecting a microbe on Mars than an unborn baby here?)
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To: silentknight

Well, let’s see, a State may declare war,.....and lose.


21 posted on 11/29/2012 11:48:09 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Can the U. S. veto this?

Sort of, the US can veto in the Security Council any UN action supporting or opposing the new state, but not the General Assembly's recognition of the existence of said state.

22 posted on 11/29/2012 11:53:17 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: silentknight
recognition of Palestinian statehood
I don't even recognize the UN. /sotto voce
23 posted on 11/29/2012 12:00:52 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: DoughtyOne
As of a year ago, 126 of the UN members--about two-thirds--already recognized Palestine.

Israel just wants to be able to use the IDF wherever and whenever it wants. UN state recognition could change the legal situation.

24 posted on 11/29/2012 12:11:26 PM PST by newzjunkey (woo)
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To: silentknight

Unable to connect...when I clicked on your link. What is the outcome, what way did the vote go???????????? Praying for Israel


25 posted on 11/29/2012 12:16:44 PM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: DoughtyOne
at which point the U. N. building will be raised.

Razed.

26 posted on 11/29/2012 12:31:00 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: blueyon

Lots of empty air... no voting yet!


27 posted on 11/29/2012 12:50:30 PM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: silentknight

Anytime the UN General Assembly votes on anything the anti-Western side wins by a large margin.

However General Assembly votes are only symbolic - they don’t carry any legal authority.


28 posted on 11/29/2012 1:17:02 PM PST by Dave346
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To: Dave346
However General Assembly votes are only symbolic - they don’t carry any legal authority.

So, this means bupkis?
29 posted on 11/29/2012 1:20:41 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

..... it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing......


30 posted on 11/29/2012 1:30:59 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Heh, heh, heh... oops.

Thanks.


31 posted on 11/29/2012 1:44:09 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and over 60 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: newzjunkey

That had occurred to me also. Can’t say as I blame Israel though, with missiles dropping in daily.

Making this more of a state vs state thing could give the U. N. even more room to insert itself into the situation.


32 posted on 11/29/2012 1:46:36 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and over 60 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Okay. Thanks.


33 posted on 11/29/2012 1:47:23 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and over 60 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: wiggen

Thanks for the mention.


34 posted on 11/29/2012 1:48:31 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and over 60 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: F15Eagle; Errant; Yehuda
65 years ago today:

The United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine was a plan for the future government of Palestine. The Plan was described as a Plan of Partition with Economic Union which, after the termination of the British Mandate, would lead to the creation of independent Arab and Jewish States and the Special International Regime for the City of Jerusalem. On 29 November 1947, the General Assembly adopted a resolution recommending the adoption and implementation of the Plan as Resolution 181(II).[1]

United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine

Not a People (nation)... the UN

And also Ephraim? (Isaiah 7)

A division or separation, like of like אמריקה into אמ ריקה .

35 posted on 11/29/2012 1:51:37 PM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Former Fetus

Thanks for the update


36 posted on 11/29/2012 1:59:58 PM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: blueyon

138 in favor, 9 against, 41 abstentions. May the Lord have mercy on Israel!


37 posted on 11/29/2012 2:08:38 PM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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YES...138

NO......9

ABSTAIN...41


38 posted on 11/29/2012 2:10:12 PM PST by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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To: Former Fetus

Rice is calling for talks without preconditions. Too little, too late!


39 posted on 11/29/2012 2:14:53 PM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Ezekiel

Thanks!


40 posted on 11/29/2012 2:16:38 PM PST by Errant
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To: silentknight
Great, that means if “Palestine” as a sovereign state commits an act of war the state attacked can officially and legitimately before the community of nations claim it's sovereign right to self defense and declare war on the aggressor and pursue the hostilities to a final satisfactory conclusion...

...as it is now, the Palis are homeless welfare waifs who are untouchable no matter what evil they do.

41 posted on 11/29/2012 2:22:16 PM PST by Happy Rain (Obama is Lucifer's Evil Twin)
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To: silentknight
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction comes upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. - 1 Thess. 5:3

We are seeing biblical prophecy in full swing. The next move may well be a seven year treaty. When they erect a statue on the temple mount, maybe of BHO, then tribulation/judgement will hit the earth like a 18 wheeler over a smartcar. Get ready... for the real King is coming. I can hear the hoofbeats very clearly today.

42 posted on 11/29/2012 2:39:55 PM PST by BigFinn (The King is coming and He isn't riding a donkey this time.)
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To: Happy Rain

There you go...

Reading my mind again....


43 posted on 11/29/2012 2:50:58 PM PST by RandallFlagg ("Liberalism is about as progressive as CANCER" -Alfonzo Rachel)
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To: Dave346

So, with a majority “Yes” vote, the Palis still are still in no different shape than before?


44 posted on 11/29/2012 2:54:08 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Ezekiel
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth are gathered together against it....----Zechariah 12:3
45 posted on 11/29/2012 2:57:16 PM PST by tflabo
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To: DoughtyOne
"...at which point the U. N. building will be raised."

Sell to Trump - he'll develop it, put people to work, etc.

46 posted on 11/29/2012 3:13:11 PM PST by hummingbird
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To: Former Fetus

When the enemies of Israel march against her, led by the Antichrist, it is the nations of the world that had better beg for mercy.

They have no idea what is coming. Or Who.


47 posted on 11/29/2012 3:34:56 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle
You are quite right...in the end only a few persecuted believers will remain...as the world attempts to march on God's chosen....

Honestly, previous talk of end of times never really interested me....there are so many things that need to transpire before that day arrives...it likely is decades away...

However, over the past few weeks....it is like I am walking in another reality....so many intelligent people being decieved....but no matter what I say...it falls on deaf ears.....I honestly believe we are witnessing the beginning of the end...

The current administration is just one step in that direction...the world must fall to its' knees before a charismatic leader can step in to "save" them....from the evils of udeo-Christian valeus....to shape them in world order abhorent to those of faith.

But it is clear....the moral, Christians and Jews in particular, will be blamed for the chaos as the world crashes around us...you can see it already...our election pundits...our media...have gone to great lengths to rewrite history to say that our current state and future is all do to those of conservative thought....they are marking their enemies for the slaughter to come...

As stated before, I doubt this will occur quickly....decades perhaps....to culminate in the battle of Armegadden....but...I seriously beleive...it has begun...

May God be with us....it is going to get far worse than we ever imagined...
48 posted on 11/29/2012 4:12:03 PM PST by PigRigger (Donate to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org - The Troops have our front covered, let's guard their backs!)
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To: PigRigger

“However, over the past few weeks....it is like I am walking in another reality....so many intelligent people being decieved....but no matter what I say...it falls on deaf ears”

They will believe the lie.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Thessalonians+2:10-12&version=KJV

2 Thessalonians 2:10-12

King James Version (KJV)

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


49 posted on 11/29/2012 4:22:36 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Former Fetus

“May the Lord have mercy on Israel!”

In agreement....prayers for Israel and God forgive us


50 posted on 11/29/2012 4:40:34 PM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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