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(48YO)Retired Hoboken cop waved gun at worker building fence at Bayonne home: police
Jersey Journal ^

Posted on 11/27/2012 1:15:05 AM PST by SMGFan

A retired Hoboken police officer who lives in Bayonne was charged with aggravated assault and weapons offenses after allegedly waving a gun at a man building a fence at the rear of his property, officials said.

Bail was set at $50,000 cash or bond when Patrick J. Iapicca Jr., 48, of East 22nd Street, made his first court appearance on the charges today via video link from Hudson County jail in Kearny.

At 10:15 a.m. on Friday, the retired officer allegedly approached the man installing the fence while waving a 9mm Smith and Wesson semiautomatic handgun, the police report says.

When the worker asked Iapicca if he was threatening him, the former officer tucked the gun into his waistband and walked back to his home, the report says. Iapicca later told police he was trying to tell the worker, and three Bayonne residents, to stay off his property, the report says.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: banglist; donutwatch

1 posted on 11/27/2012 1:15:22 AM PST by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

It must be nice. I guess they were making so much noise he couldn’t hear what was happening on Maury.


2 posted on 11/27/2012 1:39:45 AM PST by Buddy Sorrell ("I'm dead sober, Andy, but I expect I'll get over it." - Otis Campbell)
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To: Buddy Sorrell
It is what it is ... people are packed so close together in Bayonne (one of the bedroom communities of NYC) that a person can't scratch without his neighbor knowing about it!
3 posted on 11/27/2012 1:53:26 AM PST by Ken522
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To: SMGFan

What are we doing with men who are ‘retired’ at age 46?


4 posted on 11/27/2012 2:07:14 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

“What are we doing with men who are ‘retired’ at age 46?”

I know a cop in my town who did just that; we are going to pay them most of their salary, and provide health benefits to their families, for decades. In my area they would normally work part-time gigs (some of the youngest retirees were in before any college degree requirements, so they’d do a variety of things), but now that there is no work you’re just as likely to see them at the bar at noon.


5 posted on 11/27/2012 2:46:58 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

I think all these hyper-cushy, municipal-level, union contracts could be what does us in before even the federal debt—it’s just insane.


6 posted on 11/27/2012 3:04:01 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
What are we doing with men who are ‘retired’ at age 46?

Rank and file police officer, like enlisted military, is a physically demanding position that normally cannot be done by older men.

Therefore, after 20, 25, or 30 years you can retire.

Are you going to bitch about all of our brave military who enlisted at 18, served our country for 30 years, and retire at 48?

7 posted on 11/27/2012 3:17:42 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo

I can see going on to less demanding jobs, in another field if necessary, but for taxpayers to pay full pensions and health benefits for up to 50 years for men who worked only 20+ years is insane and unsustainable. They should be partial pensions that kick in at social security age, not before.


8 posted on 11/27/2012 3:23:21 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Medical retirement?

I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt until I hear more.


9 posted on 11/27/2012 3:23:54 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Yo-Yo

There are many physically demanding jobs that can’t be done so easily once you get older. Why do you think they are entitled to salaries for life? If they can’t do the job they signed on for then they need to find another one and stop expecting the taxpayers to fund their cushy lifestyles. That includes cops, military and everyone else.


10 posted on 11/27/2012 3:26:27 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: Yo-Yo
Rank and file police officer, like enlisted military, is a physically demanding position that normally cannot be done by older men

Delivering mail is more physically demanding than an armed government hireling robbing highway travelers for a living, and mailmen don't get to shoot the dogs.

11 posted on 11/27/2012 3:33:08 AM PST by Reeses
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To: hattend

I don’t actually blame him if he’s qualified for and taken retirement, since that’s probably what the system allows and he wants to do.

But it’s a lousy, unsustainable system that we have in municipalities across the country, because it has been easier for pols to buy off unions than to be fiscally responsible. I think local governments are going to have to find ways to go through some sort of bankruptcy and discharge the exorbitant retirement promises that they have made to these unions.


12 posted on 11/27/2012 3:40:10 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: SMGFan

Once a thug always a thug.


13 posted on 11/27/2012 3:45:04 AM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Reeses

Good points..also try climbing utility poles all day for 30 years while looking down at so AH directing traffic(thats demanding) while making time and a half on an off day.
Also in some states those OT dollars go towards an income base that gauges the retirement payment.now thats BS
Watch the news these days..many cops are fat slobs and some of the women hired aren’t capable of dragging around the dog their partner shot.


14 posted on 11/27/2012 3:45:31 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: SMGFan
After the incident, police went to Iapicca's home, confiscated the gun, and arrested him on the charge of aggravated assault for waving the gun in front of the man, as well as possession of a weapon for an unlawful purpose and unlawful possession of a weapon, according to the police report and the criminal complaint.

The police report says Iapicca was unable to locate his firearm identification card while officers were at his home.

Retired LEOs are allowed to obtain permits to carry in New Jersey -- but there IS that silly filling-out-the-paperwork-thing.

I'll agree -- it looks like he's had a hard 48 years! Would be interesting to know why he "retired". (And why he had no FID card.)

15 posted on 11/27/2012 4:06:11 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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(And why he had no FID card.)


You Yankees and your Nazi gun laws. A FID card? What’s with that?

You can’t keep a gun in the house unless you have a FID card?

Us southerners don’t have to have “papers” to keep any gun in our homes. At least we have some type of freedom granted by the Constitution left down here.

Down here you have the freedom to walk around your property waving a gun in your hand as much as you want and not break any laws. However, if you POINT the gun at someone and threaten them while standing in your own yard, depending on the situation, you may break a law. The act of simply letting them know you are armed does not break any law.

Remember, that’s in the South...especially here in Texas.

Just the fact that a NJ citizen has to have a piece of paper to legally have a gun in his home decries a direct attack upon the Second Amendment.


16 posted on 11/27/2012 6:13:31 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: SMGFan

Waving one’s firearm is a sign of male respect and acknowledgement - pointing it is a sign of a threat. Or sumpin like dat.


17 posted on 11/27/2012 6:55:18 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: DH
You don't need a FID to keep a gun in your house -- even in New Jersey. But he wasn't arrested for keeping it in his house. He was arrested for brandishing it at someone outside of his house.

New Jersey is persnickety about issuing FID cards and pistol purchase permits to individuals with mental health histories. I'm guessing that they are even more reluctant to issue carry permits to individuals with mental health problems. Unlike the hoi polloi, a retired LEO would ordinarily have no problem acquiring a carry permit in New Jersey. The question as to why this might be a problem arises. The possible answers are only conjecture, of course.

18 posted on 11/27/2012 8:33:18 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Yo-Yo

Rank and file police officer, like enlisted military, is a physically demanding position that normally cannot be done by older men.


Bwahahahaha!!!


19 posted on 11/27/2012 8:40:26 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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To: DH
Just the fact that a NJ citizen has to have a piece of paper to legally have a gun in his home decries a direct attack upon the Second Amendment.

What's worse is the fact that for non-connected law abiding citizens to get that piece of paper is darned near impossible.

20 posted on 11/27/2012 9:48:56 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: 9YearLurker

“I think all these hyper-cushy, municipal-level, union contracts could be what does us in before even the federal debt”

They are certainly crushing NJ, giving us among the highest property taxes in the country. Now that we have salary caps, the tax increases are more mild, but instead of resulting in a slow-down of increases for those workers it resulted in fewer of them overall - still receiving ridiculous pay/benefits. The real death blow is the costs of those contracts that remain with you decades after these people retire - which is also killing California. The infrastructure in NJ is crumbling because of the costs we pay for the men who fix it - who retired 25 years ago. There is nothing left to hire a real workforce anymore, so it looks like Mogadishu here.


21 posted on 11/27/2012 1:39:52 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Yo-Yo

“Are you going to bitch about all of our brave military who enlisted at 18, served our country for 30 years, and retire at 48?”

If they can’t serve in a useful capacity at 30 get them out; if they can serve in a capacity at 48 they can do the same at 58 (Chairborne and such). Police work should be like the military; do a four year stint, earn some money and some type of GI bill, then move along. Here in NJ because of budget cuts a lot of our youngest cops were laid off; we are left with middle-aged cops (who cost a LOT of money), and the criminal element knows it.

There is always room in any field for older people, but nobody should be in a job automatically because they were 10 years earlier.


22 posted on 11/27/2012 1:45:47 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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