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GRANTHAM: We're Headed For A Disaster Of Biblical Proportions
Business Insider ^ | 21 November 2012 | Henry Blodgett

Posted on 11/26/2012 8:51:24 PM PST by Lorianne

Last year, legendary investor Jeremy Grantham of GMO published a treatise on exploding commodity prices.

He also offered a startlingly depressing outlook for the future of humanity.

Grantham believes the world has undergone a permanent "paradigm shift" in which the number of people on Earth has finally and permanently outstripped the planet's ability to support us.

The phenomenon of ever-more humans using a finite supply of natural resources cannot continue forever, Grantham says--and the prices of metals, hydrocarbons (oil), and food are now beginning to reflect that.

Grantham believes that the planet can only sustainably support about 1.5 billion humans, versus the 7 billion on Earth right now (heading to 10-12 billion). For all of history except the last 200 years, the human population has been controlled via the limits of the food supply. Grantham thinks that, eventually, the same force will come into play again.

The hope of the optimists, of course, is that science will find a solution to this problem, the way it has for the past 150 years.

Let's hope so.

In the meantime, here's a snapshot of Grantham's argument, along with his key points at the end.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: depopulation; grantham; jeremygrantham; malthus; populationcontrol
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To: Dr.Deth
What do we know about that process, really? Like Global Warming, we have unproven theories accepted as fact, with significant peer reviews (i.e. circle-fest) supporting this presumed conclusion.

Unlike Global Warming, however, we've been using these models for over a century to explore for oil, and they work.

The Global Warmists are hard pressed to get next week's weather right, much less any long term climate predictions. Recall how we'd all be burning up by now? (The planet hasn't warmed for over a decade.)

21 posted on 11/26/2012 9:14:28 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: chessplayer

Never fear, the carbon dioxide glut is coaxing up more forests to take the place of what is being harvested. And algae too, everything green.


22 posted on 11/26/2012 9:17:39 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: JRandomFreeper

We’re not resticted to a small island, or even this planet.


The Earth is an island, and yes, we are restricted to it. The human race moving to another planet after we have destroyed this one is science fiction. Not going to happen.


23 posted on 11/26/2012 9:19:36 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer
Haiti is border to border with the Dominican Republic.

Compare and contrast.

More O2 comes from single cell organisms than comes from trees.

There are more trees in the US now than there were in the Civil War. The number of trees in the US climbs every year.

Governments tend to be the problem when humans are dying.

BTW, where does the oxygen 'go'?

Are we transporting it off planet? It's still right here on mother earth.

/johnny

24 posted on 11/26/2012 9:20:06 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: chessplayer

Some feel the globe is a fragile accident of... what? fate? chance?

Some believe God made the globe and was no dummy, that He made it capable of standing up to whatever would be thrown at it, because there’s a story with an end He has already written.


25 posted on 11/26/2012 9:22:10 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: chessplayer
LOL! We don't have to move to another planet. We can get resources from the rest of the solar system without moving.

In fact, there are commercial ventures already invested in the millions of dollars to do just that.

/johnny

26 posted on 11/26/2012 9:23:16 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: chessplayer
And we are mowing down the worlds forests at an ever increasing rate

Deforestation is actually slowing down.

27 posted on 11/26/2012 9:24:21 PM PST by ILS21R (Everything... IS... a conspiracy)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Yep... peoples have a certain amount of freedom to make small locales into hell holes if they insist.


28 posted on 11/26/2012 9:24:38 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Lorianne

I hear some folks may actually have successfully designed a warp drive design, and after the Great Civil War some rocket geeks will snag an old rocket and take it for a spin proving it to be a working design.

Next thing we know some interstellar species will drop in with ideas of expanding their tourism trade to other planets.

Since so far we have been nothing more than copycatting ultra evolved primates who still cannot have proper elections these other planetary folks have been just laughing their asses off watching us.

the sooner we get our shit together and eradicate, yes I mean eradicate these social assbackwardism everyone seems so fond then we can get off this over capacity rock and head elsewhere.


29 posted on 11/26/2012 9:25:44 PM PST by Eye of Unk (A Civil Cold War in America is here, its already been declared.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Asteroids might be a fascinating place to get precious metals from, but I don’t believe that space will need mining for the “bread and butter stuff” before the Story ends due to factors that we can’t control.


30 posted on 11/26/2012 9:27:40 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Eye of Unk

If you could, you’d find you couldn’t escape sin that way.


31 posted on 11/26/2012 9:28:38 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The problem I have is when some folks that have made a hellhole decide that it's the fault of the people that have developed resources.

Life isn't a zero sum game. Some folks don't want to do the work to understand that.

Math is hard, for some. ;)

/johnny

32 posted on 11/26/2012 9:29:23 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Lorianne
Grantham believes that the planet can only sustainably support about 1.5 billion humans, versus the 7 billion on Earth right now

When you're 400% wrong... admit it already!

This guy must have Al Gore Syndrome.

33 posted on 11/26/2012 9:30:49 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

The world will give them a hand, but it gets awful tired of handouts that don’t result in any progress.


34 posted on 11/26/2012 9:31:17 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: chessplayer

lol...That was the first thing that popped into my head, too.


35 posted on 11/26/2012 9:31:35 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
When resources run out, we find other solutions. Every single time.

Yay Soylent Green!

36 posted on 11/26/2012 9:31:44 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: DTogo

One wonders what the land of China would have looked like if colonized by people who had the mindset of the pilgrims to America. Instead of a thin overcrowded band on its coast, the place would be crisscrossed with highways and railroads from east to west.


37 posted on 11/26/2012 9:33:39 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I have no opinion on the End. Above my paygrade. "No man knows the hour or the day" kind of thing. I just keep moving forward.

But people need CHON. And that's pretty much it. We have plenty here on earth, if we want to develop it.

Heck, the planet crust is about 15% Al. That's a LOT of beer cans.

But there's lots of Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen, and Nitrogen available in the local system, should we need it.

/johnny

38 posted on 11/26/2012 9:34:34 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Damn. I was just thinking of how cool it would be to pack up the entire human race and boogie to Venus after leaving this dump in smoldering, radioactive ruins. That wasn’t what you meant?!?


39 posted on 11/26/2012 9:35:48 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Except that there will be an End, and that the description seems to suggest that until some outright supernatural punishments are wrought, the globe will have stood up mighty well.


40 posted on 11/26/2012 9:36:50 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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