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Report: Israeli Spy Satellites Spot Iranian Ship Being Loaded With Rockets For Gaza
HAARETZ ^ | November 25, 2012

Posted on 11/25/2012 6:52:11 AM PST by Strategy

Israeli spy satellites have spotted an Iranian ship being loaded with missiles that analysts say may be headed for Gaza, The Sunday Times reported.

According to the report, the cargo may include Fajr-5 rockets, like those that were fired by Hamas toward Israel and the stockpiles of which the Israel Defense Forces depleted during the recent round of fighting across the Gaza border, in addition to Shahab-3 ballistic missiles, which could be stationed in Sudan to pose a direct threat to Israel.

"With a lot of effort, Iran has skillfully built a strategic arm pointing at Israel from the south," an Israeli source was quoted as saying.

The cargo would travel via the Red Sea, Sudan and Egypt, following a well-established route used by Iran to smuggle arms into Gaza, the Times reported.

"We believe that Iranian warships anchored in Eritrea will accompany the weapons ship as soon as it enters the Red Sea," an Israeli source told the Times.

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel
KEYWORDS: bombbombbombbombiran; evilislam; iran; islam; israel; middleeast; missiles; mullahcracy; notbreakingnews; obama; suezcanal
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1 posted on 11/25/2012 6:52:15 AM PST by Strategy
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To: Strategy

Pretty good odds that it just strangely sinks somewhere.


2 posted on 11/25/2012 6:54:54 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Strategy

torpedo the damn thing

Israel needs to figure out how to detonate some of those rockets without leaving evidence they did it.


3 posted on 11/25/2012 6:55:45 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (bahits.com)
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To: FreeAtlanta

They’ve figured it out.


4 posted on 11/25/2012 6:58:08 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Strategy

Cease-fires are simply the opportunity for the Palestinians to reload.


5 posted on 11/25/2012 6:58:30 AM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: Strategy

It’s like the Maharishi said, victory is when the other side is completely replace by the victor. Like we did with Japan and Germany unconditional surrender.


6 posted on 11/25/2012 6:59:24 AM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: Strategy

Wait till the ship is in deep water.... magnetic mine the bottom of the hull... blow it ... Let it sink to the bottom... No evidence....
Here’s a thought.... If we have flying drones.... Why not
underwater drones?


7 posted on 11/25/2012 7:02:38 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: Strategy

Would anybody be surprised if 0bama was supplying them?


8 posted on 11/25/2012 7:03:17 AM PST by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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To: Strategy
Satellites show Iran moving quickly to rearm Hamas
9 posted on 11/25/2012 7:04:42 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: Rappini
It’s like the Maharishi said, victory is when the other side is completely replace by the victor. Like we did with Japan and Germany unconditional surrender.

No, being "completely replaced by the victor" is what we did to the American Indians, or what the Romans did to Carthage, or what the Israelites did to the Canaanites.

10 posted on 11/25/2012 7:05:12 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: baddog 219
If we have flying drones.... Why not underwater drones?

http://joemiller.us/2012/07/us-rushing-dozens-of-submersible-killer-drones-to-persian-gulf/

11 posted on 11/25/2012 7:05:32 AM PST by Sirius Lee (RE SP - Republicans, from Mitt Romney ..to Karl Rove... are said to be concerned she will win.")
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To: baddog 219

why not just blow up the missile factory? if they let them load them on to ships, they get a ships, too.....sink those protection boats, also. those muslims are so stupid.


12 posted on 11/25/2012 7:09:44 AM PST by stickywillie (EE)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Did anybody report any spy sats showing the Israelis being re-supplied with Iron Dome missiles? From what I read they are in short supply. Not good. Has uncle obie done more than run his mouth? As for the “accidental” floundering of the supply ships? Bush did it. Maybe a USS Liberty miscommunication?

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13 posted on 11/25/2012 7:16:56 AM PST by rktman
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To: rktman

does Israel make their own Iron Dome Missiles, or do they buy them from another source? dollars to donuts says they make their own, and they are working 24 hours a day to replenish their supply.


14 posted on 11/25/2012 7:25:38 AM PST by stickywillie (EE)
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To: Strategy

Israel’s own intelligence satellites spotted this.

Ask yourself why Israel had to go to the enormous expense of putting up their own intelligence satellites when the US, their ally, has an awesome satellite intelligence network?

The answer is they could not rely on us for timely and accurate intel.

And given the zero that inhabits the white house now they were wise indeed.


15 posted on 11/25/2012 7:30:15 AM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Strategy. Eritrea, huh?
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16 posted on 11/25/2012 7:30:39 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: rktman
Did anybody report any spy sats showing the Israelis being re-supplied with Iron Dome missiles?

The Iron Dome is an economically unsustainable defense against rockets as cheap as the Palis are using.

17 posted on 11/25/2012 7:30:53 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: stickywillie

Israel makes their own missiles for Iron Dome.


18 posted on 11/25/2012 7:34:08 AM PST by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: Strategy

I didn’t see any satellite photos in that article. It’s just a Big Fat Claim so far.


19 posted on 11/25/2012 7:36:48 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: meatloaf
Israel makes their own missiles for Iron Dome.

That does not mean that they can keep up the rate of manufacture with the rate at which Iran can supply cheap rockets like Kassams. It's a little matter of cash flow and a sufficient supply of skilled labor.

20 posted on 11/25/2012 7:38:44 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: stickywillie

Rafael Advanced Defense, apparently with help from Raytheon. Is is expected to be commercially available.


21 posted on 11/25/2012 7:40:32 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Strategy

I wouldn’t be too subtle about it. As soon as it nears port, the IDF should sink it with naval gunfire. Bet they could get some good secondaries. Do it within sight of land.


22 posted on 11/25/2012 7:41:53 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Carry_Okie

There’s a post on FR that goes to an analysis of the Israeli vs. Iranian expenditures. The Iranian’s cost are far more than the acquisition cost for the missile since the transport/smuggling costs make for an expensive multiplier.

The Israelis are benefiting from an economies of scale operation that spreads the developmental costs over an ever increasing number of missiles. IIRC, the Israelis are approaching $1,000 per missile. The efficiency of Iron Dome is also increasing.

The Iranians are in a situation similar to when we put the USSR in a tough cash flow situation which led to its breakup.

The Iranians are also in a race with the Saudis. Unless they can get their nukes, basic economics has doomed the Iranians. Hamas needed the ceasefire to get more missiles from Iran.


23 posted on 11/25/2012 7:52:01 AM PST by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: Carry_Okie
See this post.

/johnny

24 posted on 11/25/2012 7:52:11 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: jjotto

Rafael Advanced Defense, apparently with help from Raytheon. Is is expected to be commercially available.......

http://dvice.com/archives/2011/06/israels-trophy.php


25 posted on 11/25/2012 7:52:19 AM PST by stickywillie (EE)
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To: pepsionice

Was going to say......10, 9, 8, 7.......


26 posted on 11/25/2012 7:53:56 AM PST by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Especially if the Muzzie-lovin’ Hillarybeast was strapped to one of the missiles. Every time Israel appears to be beating down an enemy, she appears like the Grim Reaper to hold back their hand so that their enemies can reload. She is an evil bitch, whose leash is currently held by an actual Muzzie. What DRUG was the American public under to re-elect such a sorry POS with such a horrible record? Because he was “cool”? Is that what really counts when the bombs are falling? That’s who you want at the wheel in a crisis? G-d help us, we have become a nation of superficial amoral jackasses. FReepers excluded, of course.


27 posted on 11/25/2012 7:55:49 AM PST by EinNYC
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To: stickywillie

They did destroy one in Sudan.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-28/israel-conducts-air-strike-sudan-missile-base-dry-run-iran-attack


28 posted on 11/25/2012 7:58:02 AM PST by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: Strategy

Israel had their chance and they blew it. Could have cleaned Gaza out and occupied the land.


29 posted on 11/25/2012 8:01:04 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Strategy

Sink the boat!


30 posted on 11/25/2012 8:07:27 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: JRandomFreeper; SunkenCiv

Thank you for this terrific link. I have been wondering for some time how Israel would be able to afford to shoot down all these cheap rockets.

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?id=293283


31 posted on 11/25/2012 8:12:55 AM PST by dervish (either the vote was corrupt or the electorate is)
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To: stickywillie

“why not just blow up the missile factory? “

These ‘missiles’ are essentially unguided rockets. Crude and cheaply made. You could build them in a sheet metal shop. Blow it up if you want, they’ll just move production down the block. I would bet that there are dozens of shops building these flying pipe bombs.

Btw, another article recently posted here suggested that Israel is going broke shooting these things down. The interceptor missiles are a couple orders of magnitude more expensive than the Gaza Rockets.


32 posted on 11/25/2012 8:24:30 AM PST by Tallguy (Hunkered down in Pennsylvania.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

I believe the opposite. They should leave the loudest calling card they can. You arm Israels enemies, your ships your crews go deep 6


33 posted on 11/25/2012 8:49:57 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: Bobalu

Good point.


34 posted on 11/25/2012 8:58:05 AM PST by PghBaldy (Pete Hoekstra RE: Petraeus scandal - "There's more here than meets the eye.")
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To: pepsionice
Pretty good odds that it just strangely sinks somewhere.

I'd vote for the narrowest part of the Suez canal...

35 posted on 11/25/2012 9:00:08 AM PST by null and void (The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.)
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To: originalbuckeye
Cease-fires are simply the opportunity for the Palestinians to reload.

See also: Hudna...

36 posted on 11/25/2012 9:01:10 AM PST by null and void (The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.)
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To: Carry_Okie

“The Iron Dome is an economically unsustainable defense against rockets as cheap as the Palis are using. “

I totally agree. Israel needs to mas-manufacture cheap artillery shells and unguided rockets, then they need to return attacks 10 to 1.


37 posted on 11/25/2012 9:25:25 AM PST by WMarshal (Free citizen, never a subject or a civilian)
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To: Logical me

You forget that the superpowers (US, Russia and China) will not permit Israel to win and never has. Israel could wipe them out in one day but the powers that be threaten her to stop or she will be cut off economically.


38 posted on 11/25/2012 9:28:32 AM PST by Netz (Netz)
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To: Strategy

A standard Arab hudna. Hamas agreed to a truce because they were out of rockets. When the supplies are restocked, the rocket launches will resume until the supplies are exhausted. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.


39 posted on 11/25/2012 9:36:01 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: WMarshal
I totally agree. Israel needs to mas-manufacture cheap artillery shells and unguided rockets, then they need to return attacks 10 to 1.

In that case, it is not the shells themselves that are expensive, it is maintaining the supply train. Against incoming missiles, laser "ammo" looks better to me.

40 posted on 11/25/2012 9:44:07 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: Strategy

So?! Israel either doesn’t have the guts or the ability (or both) to put a sustained hurt on the Arabs. They get what’s coming to them, just as in the past. Getting tired of this nonsense.


41 posted on 11/25/2012 9:48:13 AM PST by CatOwner
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To: pepsionice

Attention, IDF nuclear subs. Can you make it look like they pissed off a pot of sperm wales.


42 posted on 11/25/2012 9:52:41 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: pepsionice

Attention, IDF nuclear subs. Can you make it look like they pissed off a pod of sperm wales.


43 posted on 11/25/2012 9:52:54 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Strategy

This was reported towards the beginning of Operation Pillar of Cloud. What has been done about it? Nothing? I thought so!


44 posted on 11/25/2012 10:22:08 AM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Carry_Okie

“The Iron Dome is an economically unsustainable defense against rockets as cheap as the Palis are using.”

Interesting observation.

However….

The Israelis really don’t have much of a choice but to keep using their “economically unsustainable” defense system since they have nothing else (outside of extended and possibly unsustainable combat) with which to diminish the missile attacks.

In that sense, their defense policy is not unlike the United State’s _economic_ policy, which is to keep borrowing to prop up an unsustainable system, because there really aren’t any acceptable policies that stand a chance of being implemented.


45 posted on 11/25/2012 10:25:45 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Road Glide
The Israelis really don’t have much of a choice but to keep using their “economically unsustainable” defense system since they have nothing else (outside of extended and possibly unsustainable combat) with which to diminish the missile attacks.

Lasers are the answer to that conundrum, and you can be sure they are working on it.

46 posted on 11/25/2012 10:34:12 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: Strategy

Does anyone think that ship will make it to Egypt/Lebanon??


47 posted on 11/25/2012 10:47:47 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Carry_Okie

Not necessarily. If the US, South Korea and others bought in, the price per unit drops substantially.

The vast majority of the price of these Iron Dome missiles is in the development costs


48 posted on 11/25/2012 10:53:42 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Carry_Okie
Lasers are the answer to that conundrum, and you can be sure they are working on it.

Jet interceptors were Nazi Germany's solution to the Allied Bomber Offensive. Would have worked if they'd obtained significant numbers maybe as little as 6 months earlier. Timing is everything.

49 posted on 11/25/2012 11:04:03 AM PST by Tallguy (Hunkered down in Pennsylvania.)
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To: Strategy

They better load them right or there may be an accident at sea.


50 posted on 11/25/2012 11:49:06 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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