Ironically the next day I flew to Salt Lake for business and was golfing with an 85 yr old economics professor from BYU. He personally knew Milton Friedman and mentioned he was a Liberaltarian. When I mentioned I had just won Chair of a County he immediately went to abortion and bigger gummit.
He threw every cliche at the book but never could come up with when a baby was abortable and when it was not. I ticked him off but held my ground and forced him to think for the first time in his life. Mormons are pretty squishy on this issue.
I’m very proud of you Bray but since I’m mentally rebuilding the pubs or a new Tea Party, this abortion thing is a problem.
I really don’t want to argue. I think abortion is murder. I’d be all in favor or the legality, timing and such of it was left to the states.
But it’s not a good Republican/Conservative item and it will NEVER be made illegal, ie Roe vs Wade will NEVER be overturned. Goodness, you saw what happened over free birth control, if you think any gain would be made to eliminate abortion I got a bridge to sell.
It’s silly to say abortion should be made illegal in the event of rape or incest only. THAT’s not going to work, get thinking cap on. The Dems/Soros/media buddies will have two commercials. One will show a woman with a purple bruised face, ragged torn clothes, split bleeding lips: “The Republicans want me to have my rapist’s baby. He left me like this now I must suffer nine more months plus the pain of childbirth.”
The alternate would be a young girl of 13, obviously pregnant, very sad in terms of her youth, a child still with more growing up to do. “My father raped me for years. Finally I got pregnant. Now Joe Schmoe the Republican candidate wants me to have my father’s baby. What did I do wrong?” (this sort of thing works for ASPCA commercials, the dems know how to use emotion while pubs are wimps at it.
And if a woman doesn’t want a pre-born child, she just declares she was raped or the father was her brother and boom, she’d be eligible for a “legal” abortion.
Don’t tell me about DNA and other such. In the case of rape, they spiked my drink, it was date rape, even if DNA was taken for proof. For incest, well I don’t know. Whatever, whatever, abortion is a losing issue.
Best to fight for the states to take over the legality of it all but even at that the pubs are awful at making a point, we know it.
Even the taking of DNA for proof of incest or rape seems harsh to a woman already dealing with an unwanted pregnancy. Man I can see the commercials now...”She was raped by a serial rapist; now she must endure a test of her truthfulness and baby paternity or she will have to bear the child of her rapist.”
I’m so good I can write these commercials for the Dems/Soros.
Finally, if you think an unborn child is meant to be born, making an exception for rape or incest seems....weak-kneed. I know people who think unborn babies or such questionable conception are still children of God and deserve to be born. Frankly I feel that way too. To take two different positions on the matter depending on the conception of the unborn child seems disjointed to me.
Leading to a Republican stand that it’s okay to kill the unborn baby in certain circumstances.....I have more respect for those who are stalwart in their love for the unborn than those who think it depends on the conception/who fathered it.
Still and so, then I’ll shut up for a bit, there is a way to deal with the matter of abortion way better than the pubs have for the last ten years. Women, all of them no matter what stupid things they might say, do NOT want to kill the baby they carry. Women want the father of the child they carry to hold them tightly in their arms, to assure them that he will take care of the baby and love her (the mother) forever.
THAT’s what women want and a brave Republican should say that for God’s sake.
THIS IS WHEN YOU USE EMOTION FOR GOD’S SAKES!!!
I mentioned that I had a cousin on the committee and that abortion was an abomination. Haven’t heard from her in a couple of years, she was a long time FReeper too.