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Russia Sends A Detachment Of Ships To The Coast Of Gaza
The Voice of Russia ^ | November 23, 2012

Posted on 11/23/2012 7:41:43 AM PST by Fennie

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To: ConservativeMan55

” because they were unfaithful to me.” - Ezekiel


51 posted on 11/23/2012 1:07:58 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: SoFloFreeper
“Obama is being flexible....”

“Russian ships displayed at DNC tribute to vets”

http://nation.foxnews.com/democrats/2012/09/12/russian-ships-displayed-dnc-tribute-vets

52 posted on 11/23/2012 1:12:08 PM PST by 444Flyer
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To: GeronL

I saw her in Sevastopol a couple of years ago. Looking shabby. The Russian Black Sea Fleet is in pretty tough shape. Some of their smaller auxilieries look all right but most of the bigger stuff is laid up. Just not enough money for the required maintenance.


53 posted on 11/23/2012 1:13:12 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: PapaBear3625

I do believe the Russian Navy mixed it up with the Turkish fleet in the pre-dreadnought days and did very well. Outside of that...


54 posted on 11/23/2012 1:14:05 PM PST by Tallguy (Hunkered down in Pennsylvania.)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Apparently there is also a MOSKVA CLASS helo-carrying cruisers. Sending one of those might make some sense for rescue, maybe the reporter is just stupid?


55 posted on 11/23/2012 1:16:52 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Fennie

Naval Gaza-ing


56 posted on 11/23/2012 1:36:01 PM PST by mikrofon (Na Zodorovye)
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To: mikrofon

lol

groan


57 posted on 11/23/2012 1:52:18 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Jimmy Valentine
http://en.rian.ru/images/16022/39/160223994.jpg

Looks high-tech and futuristic to me.... *cough*

58 posted on 11/23/2012 2:01:35 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

59 posted on 11/23/2012 2:02:26 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Tallguy

Smetliviy... considered totally obsolete
60 posted on 11/23/2012 2:05:17 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: COBOL2Java

Uh, caliper? How about caliber.


61 posted on 11/23/2012 2:08:12 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: COBOL2Java

Uh, caliper? How about caliber.


62 posted on 11/23/2012 2:08:12 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Nah, I’m measuring the size of their head.


63 posted on 11/23/2012 2:13:19 PM PST by COBOL2Java (The GOP-e said "Beat a Marxist with a Liberal!" What a colossal blunder.)
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To: Tallguy

Ocean going tugs can push barges loaded with all sorts of things. And not draft a lot of water.Actually a good move, and cost effective.


64 posted on 11/23/2012 3:01:01 PM PST by Quickgun (I came here screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: ConservativeMan55
It sure seems to be. Things seems to be falling into place....

I keep thinking the prophecies of Isaiah regarding Damascus(Assyria/Syria/, Elam( Persia/Iran), Mitzarym( Mitzarim?,Egypt), and other nations and of course Ezekial's ominous 38/39.

The prophets truly must have seen things so hard to fathom, but thankfully they used the best words they could to grant us a picture into todays newspapers.

65 posted on 11/23/2012 3:14:02 PM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: Quickgun

Just pondering strategic events that are forming a deadly noose surrounding Israel . Obama regimes timeline of clandestine regional military / monetary sponsorship to Islamic jihadis .. Nearly show time .


66 posted on 11/23/2012 3:18:59 PM PST by Broker ( sojourner)
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To: GeronL

If the Admiral Kuznetsov or the Peter the Great show up, then I would be more worried.


67 posted on 11/23/2012 3:27:12 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Truth29

right


68 posted on 11/23/2012 3:30:56 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: molson209

“...the only thing holding Russian Wessels (LOL) together is the paint...”

They can still kill. No “lol” about that.


69 posted on 11/23/2012 3:59:01 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Fennie

The only Russians in Gaza were those Gazan rocketeers who were fleeing from Israeli air strikes.

Gee, this was really a historical battle. Roaming (Roman) missiles, Gazans Russian around, Israeli fighting the Amalekites, Egyptians fooling around in the Sinai, again.

All we need now is a visit by one of the Bush’s there and we would see the following headline: “Sinai burning again due to another Bush.”

Oh how biblical it all is.


70 posted on 11/23/2012 4:03:27 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: ConservativeMan55

The Tug is to pull back all the ships that break down.


71 posted on 11/23/2012 4:14:54 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
...in order to evacuate Russians in case of escalation...
Thanks Fennie.
72 posted on 11/23/2012 4:21:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ConservativeMan55

I don’t think that has ever happened before. Has it?


73 posted on 11/23/2012 5:00:42 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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Ideally, we need every member and regular user to contribute to keep Free Republic up and running strong.

74 posted on 11/23/2012 5:02:11 PM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: F15Eagle

I concur! Being a “watchman on the wall” is starting to get really exciting...


75 posted on 11/23/2012 5:05:50 PM PST by Anti-Hillary (Soon everything in America will be "free", except it's people.)
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To: melsec

seen this?


76 posted on 11/23/2012 5:21:37 PM PST by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: mitch5501

Hi Mitch, haven’t seen you around for a while. Maybe soon
we’ll meet in the clouds.


77 posted on 11/23/2012 5:50:26 PM PST by jusduat (on the mercy of the Lord alone.)
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To: Fennie

78 posted on 11/23/2012 5:55:38 PM PST by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: Fennie

Trumpeter 1/700
Russian Navy Slava Class Cruisers Moskva/Varyag

Quick Review by Sean Hert
These cruisers, known as Project 1164 are believed to be a “hedge bet” in case the Kirov class failed. They were laid down in 1976, and the first ship of the class, named Slava was launched in 1979 and commissioned in 1983. Slava was renamed Moskva in 2000, and was assigned to the Black Seas Fleet. Varyag was commissioned in 1989, originally named “Chervona Ukraina,” and was assigned to the Pacific Fleet. The Slava class is armed with a formidable array of weapons;
Missiles:

16 x 1 SS-N-12 “Bazalt”
8 x 8 SA-N-6
2 x 2 SA-N-4
Guns:

2 x 130mm AK-130
6 x 6 AK-630 CIWS
HULL PARTS
The hull is molded as a waterline kit with a lower hull option. The upper hull had a little flash, but the hull halves fit together nicely. The one piece deck has a small gap in the bow, but otherwise fit looks good. The modeler has the choice of full hull or waterline display. Flat waterline and full hull options are molded in red. Another nice feature is that the locator holes are not open all the way through, so you won’t have to fill them if they are not used on your ship. In fact, one of the few differences between these kits is which holes you open.

SPRUES
Sorry, my scanner wasn’t up to the task so the images are poor. The parts look good in person though! No flash to be seen. The kit’s display base seems to be a default standard for many of Trumpeter’s 1/700 kits now; it’s the same one in USS Pittsburgh for instance.

INSTRUCTIONS
A ten page instruction booklet describe the assembly in great detail with a variety of sub assembly views. These instructions are well done for each kit, with only minor differences modifying a few steps, namely the placement of some holes on the decks and a selection of radars. The instructions from Varyag are shown.

Painting & Marking Guides and Decals
The full color Paint & Marking Guides are up to Trumpeter’s excellent standards, with the standared Gunze Mr. Color references.
The decal sheet is identical in each kit; in fact, the decal sheet shows a total of 4 kit numbers, implying a Marshal Ustinov and Vilna Ukraina in the future.

Varyag
Moskva


79 posted on 11/23/2012 6:28:29 PM PST by STD (“Cogito, ergo armatum sum)
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To: bellwether_blues
I'll give you something else to think about.

Ezekiel 38:13, "Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?

Sheba, Dedan and Tarshish are peoples/nations that, for the most part, either border or are in close proximity to Israel. It is said that they hope to reap the spoils of the war after Gog and Magog have destroyed Israel. Of course any serious Bible student knows that isn't going to happen but that's what some people teach.

However, I once read somewhere that these nations can also be nations that, while are not openly hostile towards Israel, were either once allies of Israel or nations that are issuing political statements condemning the invasion while doing nothing to stop it.

Note the accusatory nature of the statement, "Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil? It's almost like they are saying in effect, "Hey, what do you think you're doing? You invading just so you can have the oil and gas fields, or the technology they possess, or the massive gold deposits? Back off."

These could be nations too cowardly to stand up for Israel militarily but want to, at least, save face in the opinion of the world in case the invasion goes awry.

Sound like anyone we know?

80 posted on 11/23/2012 7:04:31 PM PST by ducttape45
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To: Broker

Yes, and I’m not at all as confident the tiny Israel is as invincible as some think. And as far as Russia’s rusty, and somewhat dated warships, You can run around all over the place in rusty ‘ol boats and not worry too much when you have ICBM’s with nuke warheads on them, to back you up. And, yeah, Hitler thought the Russians were chicken, too.....
One of the worst mistakes a country can make is to underestimate an enemy’s ability to cripple them. (IMHO)


81 posted on 11/23/2012 7:31:11 PM PST by Quickgun (I came here screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: jusduat

and then we’ll party like it’s forever!


82 posted on 11/23/2012 8:47:26 PM PST by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: ConservativeMan55
The Moskva is a large cruiser. Pretty capable at ship to ship warfare with good defenses.

The Smetlivyy is an old Kashin Class Destroyer which is pretty antiquated late 1960s vintage with some updates.

The Novocherkassk is a Ropucha class LST and the Sratov is an Alligator class LST...both relatively small and old, dating back to the 1970s.

So, this Russian naval group is not too powerful outside of the Moskva. It is capable of defending itself and can offload or rescue several hundred civilians. Each of the LSTs can run up on a beach and carry about 150-200 Russian MArines.

No comparison to any modern US group, and some of the more modern, larger Israeli frigates could give them a run for their money, especially with Israeli air force aircraft assisting.

83 posted on 11/23/2012 9:33:09 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: F15Eagle; All

The scripture you quoted: Ezekiel 38 - “... art thou come to take a spoil?”

This scripture follows the facts: (1) Israel has been attacked (not the recent event) - and (2) in return it retalliates against the “attacker”. After Israel attacks, the whole world will come out against Israel. Gog and Magog will gather all the nations from the north and descend upon Israel - in order to destroy Israel - once and for all.

I believe it is the western nations who ask the Ezekiel 38 question of all the eastern nations gathering in the Valley of Miggido in order to strike Israel.

So .. there are two major events to take place before Ezekiel 38 is asked. Have no idea what that timetable is.


84 posted on 11/23/2012 10:39:12 PM PST by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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To: Alas Babylon!

We have 3 ships there .. maybe it was making Russia nervous.

Our president may be ignorant .. but our military sure isn’t.


85 posted on 11/23/2012 10:41:44 PM PST by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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To: CyberAnt

Not saying it has happened yet. Only that the key players keep gathering around and are obviously not on Israel’s side.


86 posted on 11/24/2012 5:02:54 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: GeronL
Come on man, that's a really fine piece of ( * cough * Crap ) machinery there.

Noticed the word MOCK if you look closely ?

Maybe they sent there ships there to be used as target practice and use it as a excuse to get into a war with the US or Israel.
87 posted on 11/24/2012 6:22:18 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: GeronL

Looks more like one of those WWII ships with the erector set look type of towers.


88 posted on 11/24/2012 6:23:31 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: Fennie

There were that many Russians in Ghaza? Just there to show moral support and eat at the 3-star hotel’s restaurant, of course. Is it possible they’re also dropping something off? Naw./s


89 posted on 11/24/2012 11:59:19 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Fennie
Sometimes you guys just get too excited. These vessels will transit through the Suez as per their original anti-piracy tasking. Nothing odd about the warships being in the area or the type of vessels deployed. This is simply part of the Black Sea Fleet Task Force that is on its way for anti-piracy duties off the Horn of Africa and the Gulf of Aden.

Prior to the deployment some of the task force was exercising with NATO country Italy. The vessels transited into the Mediterranean on their way to the Gulf of Aden long before the current Gaza hostilities.

Russian Navy command deploys two task units of Pacific Fleet (PF) and Black Sea Fleet (BSF) in order to accomplish combat training missions, ensure Russian naval presence in key regions worldwide, and secure civil shipping off Somalia......

Link

Link

Prior to that some elements were exercising with NATO elements in the Mediterranean.

Link

Currently the Black Sea Fleet Tanker Ivan Bubnov is hove to off the entrance to the Suez Canal. The main force of these vessels will transit through the Suez to continue with the on-going anti piracy patrols.

Here in the UK I can pick up the Morse Code weather transmissions from some of the Auxiliary vessels. The following is Russian Navy Tanker Ivan Bubnov. Positonal info stripped out from international weather transmission.

8345 Kilohertz

RCV DE RCJG 24181 99316 10323 22200 @1806Z

31.6N 32.3E Hove to

Map Link for Russian Navy vessel position from Morse Code transmission

90 posted on 11/24/2012 2:13:46 PM PST by Tommyjo
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To: Truth29
Putinist Russia recognizes Palestine as an independent nation. Putin's Russia says that HAMAS are NOT terrorists!

The Russians in Gaza are probably military advisers. Just like when Putin sent a muslim battalion to Lebanon to serve as "peacekeepers" to protect Hizballah from Israel.

The west stood by when Putin sent his muslim Chechen battalions into Christian Georgia to rape, massacre and exterminate thousands of innocent Georgian civilians. Israel even stopped selling the Georgians weapons to try and appease the savage mindless Russian animals, but they will now learn that satanic genocidal mass-murderers like KGB Putin can never be appeased.

91 posted on 11/24/2012 3:07:31 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Quickgun

It may well be that the tugs are needed in case any of the larger Russian landing craft don’t have the ooomph to back off the beach. OTOH, Russian naval craft have frequently been observed towing eachother which tells you a lot about the durability and skills of the crews.


92 posted on 11/24/2012 5:58:51 PM PST by Tallguy (Hunkered down in Pennsylvania.)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Also take a look at Russia’s financial support of Iran, their support of Assad, their alliance with China... There are a lot of things Russia has been doing for years that have been pointing in the direction of being involved in the Middle East. You have to realize that it’s not necessarily out in the open, but will be when it comes down to it. Russia has had their hands in the Middle Eastern “pie” for quite a while now.


93 posted on 11/24/2012 8:42:08 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: Fennie
TS is HTF, taking your eyes off the end of the USA and world liberty. I would say, ‘may God help us’ but God may be absent from the equation right now. It would appear so....
94 posted on 11/24/2012 9:17:33 PM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Fennie

Both Obama and Putin want to COW Bibi.

Well, guess what? Even if the US and Russia combine against Israel, they cannot be a match for Israel’s power. They have become enemies of Israel and Jehovah. Thats not a very good place to be.

And now watch what happens.


95 posted on 11/25/2012 4:49:13 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Fennie
The Russian Anti-Piracy Task Force is still on schedule to transit the Suez on the 27th November

The Russian Navy Tanker, Ivan Bubnov, is still sending Morse Code international weather broadcasts. Still hove to off the Suez Canal. What normally happens is that the Auxiliary vessels will stop sending weather once they start to transit the Suez. This weather denial will remain in force until they re-enter the Mediterranean after their anti-piracy deployments. The Russians regard the Red Sea, Gulf of Aden, etc too risky to transmit international weather that contains latitude and longitude.

The International weather code in use.

Link

Vessel information including call sign

Link

From

Link

From 06 UTC, 25th November.

8345 Kilohertz.

RCV DE RCJG 25061 99316 10323 22200 @0615Z

31.6N 32.3E Hove to

Map Link for Russian Navy vessel position

Full Morse message with the positional and course groups in bold.

8345 RCV DE RCJG 129 18 25 1000 129 = SML FOR RJH45 RJE73 =

25061 99316 10323 41598 72606 10200 40150 56010 79162 87320 22200 00210 20000 88000 25014 = + RCJG K

Still at same location as of 18 UTC, 25 November.

8345 RCV DE RCJG 25181 99316 10323 22200 @1807Z

31.6N 32.3E Hove to

The recent reporting from the Russian Navy website stil has the Suez transit scheduled for the 27th November.

Link

At present, BSF task force consisting of Guards missile cruiser Moskva, destroyer Smetlivy, landing ships Novocherkassk and Saratov, and auxiliary vessels has completed first stage of the long-range cruise in eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea and finished preparations for the anti-piracy mission off Somalia. The task force will be reinforced by Pacific Fleet (PF) task force in early Dec 2012. The ships finished preparations for the cruise to the Indian Ocean on Nov 24; passage of the Suez Canal is scheduled on Nov 27.

96 posted on 11/25/2012 1:46:13 PM PST by Tommyjo
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To: Tallguy

Nothing has changed since the 1970’s when I was active.


97 posted on 11/26/2012 1:31:41 AM PST by exnavy (Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: Cen-Tejas

They did get their asses kicked by the Japanese at Port Arthur. Other than that the Russian navy is famous for mutiny.


98 posted on 11/26/2012 10:28:25 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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99 posted on 11/26/2012 10:47:32 AM PST by RedMDer (Please support Toys for Tots this CHRISTmas season.)
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To: massgopguy

In fact they scored well against Swedes and Ottomans before. Port Arthur was a surprise attack, much like a Pearl Harbor(thus it is a little excuse considering Russian overall poor performance during Russo-Japanese War).


100 posted on 11/27/2012 2:35:37 AM PST by cunning_fish
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