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Mediation between Hostess and bakery union fails
AP ^ | 11/20/12

Posted on 11/20/2012 7:01:36 PM PST by Jean S

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1 posted on 11/20/2012 7:01:40 PM PST by Jean S
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To: Jean S

SEARCH WORKS NOW

Hostess Plans to Liquidate After Mediation Fails

11/20/2012 4:46:44 PM PST · by jimbo123 · 70 replies
Wall Street Journal ^ | 11/20/12 | JULIE JARGON And RACHEL FEINTZEIG
Hostess Brands Inc. said Tuesday night that mediation talks with its bakers union failed and the company will proceed with plans to close down and sell its assets.


2 posted on 11/20/2012 7:04:00 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: Jean S

Who do the bakers think they are, a bunch of public school teachers - the Mexicans can bake these cupcakes and ship them over the border.


3 posted on 11/20/2012 7:07:05 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: steve86

Yes, search does work now. I posted this because you need a subscription to the WSJ to read the other article.


4 posted on 11/20/2012 7:08:20 PM PST by Jean S
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To: Jean S

18,500 American jobs headed to Mexico. Another big “win,win” for the union Neanderthals.


5 posted on 11/20/2012 7:08:40 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Amnesty - Obama's bailout of Mexico. Barry sticks it to America again!)
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To: Jean S

Union busters at work - ‘tis a beautiful thing.


6 posted on 11/20/2012 7:09:03 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Ciexyz

I have to confess I’m a ding dong for Ding Dongs. . . was a little depressed after eating what I thought was my last one. . .when lo and behold I found a box in the freezer. To ween off my habit I plan to eat one once a month beginning January. . .maybe by next December the Mexicans will be up and running Ding Dongs across the border!


7 posted on 11/20/2012 7:13:20 PM PST by Maudeen (Proverbs 3:5-6)
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To: Jean S

is the union retarded or what?


8 posted on 11/20/2012 7:14:37 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Jean S
Was the union negotiating in good faith? When does a national strategy of showing the union is unafraid to shut down a business become a breach of fiduciary responsibility to the locals involved?

In all but four states, strikers are ineligible for unemployment compensation. Does the liquidation of the business "end" the strike or lock it in for perpetuity? If the former, was that the quid pro quo offered to the locals, that they'd have a few years of bennies from Obama while the national played out its strategy?

9 posted on 11/20/2012 7:19:22 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("Our president ... makes big speeches packed full of little ideas" Charles C. W. Cooke)
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To: GladesGuru

Union busters? The company lost over a $1 billion over the last decade. Just who busted whom?


10 posted on 11/20/2012 7:19:57 PM PST by fhayek
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To: Jean S

Meditation? I just don’t think sitting there cross-legged and humming is going to bring those people to an agreement.


11 posted on 11/20/2012 7:27:02 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Ciexyz

Sugar is also one-fourth the cost in Mexico and Canada as it is in the US.


12 posted on 11/20/2012 7:27:53 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Drango

The workers probably aren’t even aware that their union bosses are operatives of 0bama, seeking to destroy iconic American companies and any other private sector business. Cloward & Piven requires it. 0bama’s mantra is ‘every job is a government job’. When the president meet with moveon.org within days after his re-election, bad things are planned. We’ve got walk-outs at LAX planned, Walmart, and numerous ‘black Friday’ walk-outs. You can bet 0bamugabe is behind this SH!T. He talked about taxes with Richard Trumka?? HAHAAHAAAAAA HAAAAHAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAA yeah right.


13 posted on 11/20/2012 7:29:05 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Jean S
The Hostess CEO was interviewed last week and said it was over.

This is the failing of both the media and their liberal aspirations. They think "over" only means over for the people that run the business and that now they can take over and make rainbows, chewy bears and unicorns fall from the sky.

14 posted on 11/20/2012 7:31:12 PM PST by Baynative
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To: Jean S

Did they really expect the unions to give an inch?


15 posted on 11/20/2012 7:42:15 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Drango

Yes.


16 posted on 11/20/2012 7:42:21 PM PST by Deagle (quo)
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To: GeronL

No.


17 posted on 11/20/2012 7:43:32 PM PST by Deagle (quo)
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To: Jean S

Let them eat food stamps and unemployment checks... hell, they’ll be doing better than most of us...


18 posted on 11/20/2012 7:43:32 PM PST by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: Maudeen

Ding Dong smuggling will become huge!


19 posted on 11/20/2012 7:43:56 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL
Ding Dong smuggling will become huge!

The drug cartels will have to include them in the marijuana shipments.

(munchies doncha know)

20 posted on 11/20/2012 7:46:14 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Jean S

Prayers for all of the folks caught up in this disaster who wanted to keep their jobs.


21 posted on 11/20/2012 7:50:29 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

The drug cartels will be scared, because they are confronted with wild-eyed fiends - addicts suffused with twinkie-rage, coming to grab their share.


22 posted on 11/20/2012 7:53:45 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: Caipirabob

Two job openings here:
Indianapolis, IN for lookers...

http://www.omaha.com/article/20121120/MONEY/711209962/1697


23 posted on 11/20/2012 8:24:26 PM PST by Bronzy
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To: Maudeen

I have to confess I’m a ding dong for Ding Dongs
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I just posted on the other thread that I own a Bimbo bread route, and use to see the Hostess rep daily. He used to give me a couple boxes a week to take home to my kids. My kids are in deep morning over the loss of their favorite snake.


24 posted on 11/20/2012 8:36:42 PM PST by kara37
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To: Maudeen

oops, snake = snack


25 posted on 11/20/2012 8:41:26 PM PST by kara37
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To: Jean S

Thank you.


26 posted on 11/20/2012 8:47:31 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: kara37

Can’t help you with the Ding Dongs, but go to CooksCountry.com and do a search for “Chocolate Cream Cupcakes.” They’re better than the Hostess cupcakes. I made a batch tonight for tomorrow’s bake sale. I expect them to bid high!


27 posted on 11/20/2012 9:14:23 PM PST by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: GeronL

Twinies forever. :)


28 posted on 11/20/2012 10:22:51 PM PST by mark_interrupted
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To: mark_interrupted

I mean Twinkies. Oops.


29 posted on 11/20/2012 10:23:52 PM PST by mark_interrupted
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To: kara37

I love drakes yodels ad the ho hos.... The little Debbie Swiss rolls arent quite the same...... Sigh ..... FUBO!


30 posted on 11/20/2012 10:27:01 PM PST by Newton (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Drango

Yes


31 posted on 11/20/2012 11:54:01 PM PST by funfan
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To: fhayek
Bain Capitals fault

Gansito, the mexican Hostess will take over and fill the void

32 posted on 11/21/2012 12:49:27 AM PST by KTM rider
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To: Hoodat

That is a good point. Another success for sugar tariffs.


33 posted on 11/21/2012 1:34:09 AM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: mark_interrupted

Many in San Francisco would agree with your words, but not your sentiment.


34 posted on 11/21/2012 1:35:35 AM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Hoodat
"Sugar is also one-fourth the cost in Mexico and Canada as it is in the US."

Tariffs, like the Bakers union, killed our sugar cane industry. Now, everything is sweetened with high fructose corn syrup. Great, we develop diabetes and become fatter than Monsanto's corn margins.

I can't eat the stuff due to an allergy. I lost 40 lbs when I cut it out of my diet (no small feat since it's in everything).

35 posted on 11/21/2012 1:55:13 AM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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36 posted on 11/21/2012 2:09:58 AM PST by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: Ciexyz

“Who do the bakers think they are, a bunch of public school teachers”

Apparently they do; they feel they should be paid even if it means Hostess stops paying their utility bills, non-union payrolls, etc.

We had out Pathmark supermarket close a couple of years ago; Obamanomics at work (in conjunction with the “Wal-Martization” of America.


37 posted on 11/21/2012 2:17:47 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Bronzy

Yikes!


38 posted on 11/21/2012 4:47:52 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob

:: Hostess plans to continue with a hearing on Wednesday in which a bankruptcy court judge will decide if the company can shutter its operations. ::

The judge will soon be hearing from the Obamugabe administration, and, the bankruptcy judge will say, “no” and the Unions (Bakers and Teamsters) will be awarded 75% of the company’s premium and preferred shares.

It will be GM deja vu.


39 posted on 11/21/2012 4:49:10 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Bread and Circuses; Everyone to the Coliseum!)
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Let them eat cake...

A bankruptcy judge can’t force a company to stay in business.


40 posted on 11/21/2012 5:20:23 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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And we thought the government couldn’t force us to participate in the market economy either.

In the Obamugabe era, the bankruptcy court will do as told. I’ll be very surprised if Hostess closes.


41 posted on 11/21/2012 5:27:07 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Bread and Circuses; Everyone to the Coliseum!)
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To: Jean S

So the union would rather that it’s members be out of jobs completely than have jobs with a paycut? Especially in this economy?


42 posted on 11/21/2012 5:36:10 AM PST by Pinkbell
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is the union retarded or what?

I,d like to take this time to wish all of you union thugs and your famalies a very Mary Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year.

43 posted on 11/21/2012 6:02:30 AM PST by dearolddad
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To: Pinkbell

The dons of the union crime families make the decisions, and they still have their jobs. They couldn’t care less about the actual workers.


44 posted on 11/21/2012 6:07:08 AM PST by Aegedius (Veni, vidi, icked-kay utt-bay.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

It is inevitable they close...

Most people don’t eat that crap.

It is overpriced and devoid of nutrition.

A lot of the baked goods market is falling into the abyss because of dietary changes.

Some judge ordering them to stay in business won’t change a thing.


45 posted on 11/21/2012 6:18:24 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: Jean S
What I'd like to see is some Republican leaders (oxymoron I know) publicly bash the unions DAILY for destroying these jobs. They prefer instead to let the unions control the message talking about how the money hungry vulture capitalists plundered the company and ruined these poor workers lives. Our political consultants are idiots.

We are at political and cultural war with these people and we have to use every tactic in the book to expose them. Please, no more Mr. Nice Guy, kick them in the teeth instead! Figuratively speaking of course...

46 posted on 11/21/2012 7:43:16 AM PST by Reagan is King
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What’s needed is to give the workers the option of de-certifying the union by secret ballot, and just going back to work.


47 posted on 11/21/2012 9:13:09 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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Have you donated yet?


48 posted on 11/21/2012 10:06:40 AM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Maudeen

Don’t worry... as long as we have politicians in this country we will never run out of Ding Dongs!


49 posted on 11/21/2012 10:44:11 AM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Democrats are evil. Republicans are stupid.)
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To: Jean S

A WSJ editorial today claimed that human resources costs for the bakers are not out-of-wack at Hostess, and not the big operartions cost factor sapping Hostess revenue as much as the work rules of the Teamsters Union (requires anyone BUT NOT the driver be part of loading a truck and some products cannot be assigned to the same trucks - increasing how many employees and how many truck routes it takes to get Hostess products distributed). And the Teamsters accepted their agreement with Hostess, but that agreement did not much change those work rules (Hostess couldn’t get ‘em changed), leaving only the bakers compensation on the table.

It was also said that most of Hostess Teamsters Union drivers were not altogether worried about a Hostess total failure - that union seniority would get them bumped (over existing or new drivers) into Teamsters driver jobs in other companies with Teamsters contracts, while such prospects were not as likely for the bakers.

I am not saying the WSJ oped has the whole story, but that it does present the whole story with information not given much play when “blaming the bakers union” was the only story. I think the real issues are more complex than that.


50 posted on 11/21/2012 10:51:46 AM PST by Wuli
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