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Judge: Obama Admin Can Force Hobby Lobby to Obey HHS Mandate
Life News ^ | November 20, 2012 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 11/20/2012 1:12:51 PM PST by NYer

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1 posted on 11/20/2012 1:13:05 PM PST by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

FYI ping!


2 posted on 11/20/2012 1:14:15 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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This is so NOT right. It is so NOT American. I am so disgusted with these activist judges who decide how people want to run their businesses. I guess if the workers wanted the morning after pill they could go work at the Post Office. GET A LIFE, the guy invested his money and time to run a company that is valued based on a belief system, THIS IS AMERICA, land of the free and brave, or at least it was..


3 posted on 11/20/2012 1:16:38 PM PST by rovenstinez
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I wonder what would happen if Hobby Lobby decided to pursue liquidation over this.


4 posted on 11/20/2012 1:16:54 PM PST by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: NYer

Three victories so far. Keep on fighting, Hobby Lobby.


5 posted on 11/20/2012 1:17:12 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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No, they CAN’T “force” them to comply.
Hobby Lobby can re-arrange their business so that they are not covered by the law. It would be painful to the employees,

but no, 0bama can’t force them to do anything.


6 posted on 11/20/2012 1:17:12 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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It’s a tax! Of course the government can force us to do anything, It’s a tax! the unsupreme court told us so.


7 posted on 11/20/2012 1:18:07 PM PST by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: rovenstinez

It wasn’t that long ago that people were defending white only businesses with the same argument. It’s time to move on.


8 posted on 11/20/2012 1:18:07 PM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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So... Am I understanding this right?

Once a person, let’s say a Muslim, starts a SECULAR business, lets say a RESTAURANT then he is required to sell me bacon whether he is against it on religious purposes or not?


9 posted on 11/20/2012 1:18:19 PM PST by Mr. K (some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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“Plaintiffs have not cited, and the court has not found, any case concluding that secular, for-profit corporations such as Hobby Lobby and Mardel have a constitutional right to the free exercise of religion,” the ruling said.

Frightening...

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

10 posted on 11/20/2012 1:19:11 PM PST by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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Every day my utter contempt and hatred for this Marxist POS administration continues to grow.


11 posted on 11/20/2012 1:21:12 PM PST by Marathoner (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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Only as much as the unions could force Hostess to meet their demands. They actually have more options: lower hours below Obamacare thresholds, drop insurance and pay penalty, or choose to shut down.

Ironically, the liberals have backed pro-life business owners into a corner in which all their "clear conscience" options hurt the worker. So much for wanting to help the worker, but we all knew this was really about power and not the worker.

12 posted on 11/20/2012 1:21:18 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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“A federal judge has issued a ruling siding with the Obama administration saying that it has the right to force Hobby Lobby, a Christian-owned and run company, to pay for drugs for women that may cause abortions.”

Just wait until this guy loads the Federal Courts with his liberal justices. Also, he will throw the balance of the SCOTUS to the far left after appointing two or possibly three justices.

These are scary times . . . real scary times.


13 posted on 11/20/2012 1:22:54 PM PST by Mr. Wright (NAACP)
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To: Ingtar

What you cited was for back when we was under the Constitution. But thanks to the voters electing and re-electing bastards such as the occupier of the White House, that situation no longer exists.


14 posted on 11/20/2012 1:23:10 PM PST by sport
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To: DonaldC

I am sorry but your comment and your tag line don’t match.


15 posted on 11/20/2012 1:24:20 PM PST by funfan
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To: NYer

“YOU DIDN’T BUILD THAT!!!!” - President Barack Hussein (Santa Claus) Obama


16 posted on 11/20/2012 1:24:38 PM PST by Twinkie (Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.)
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To: rovenstinez

If you read the ruling you will find that this is not an activist judge. He correctly states that Obamacare is in uncharted waters and he correctly lays out both positions. As the first judge hearing the case, he knows that he will not be the last judge to hear the case.

However, in my not so humble opinion, the Judge missed the constitution arguments at their heart. In essence, which has higher precedence 1st amendment vs the 17th amendment? Does the right to engage in religious activity or to refrain from abhorrent activity, trump the right of the government to tax? That is the battle and the issue to be decided.

This judge just took the easy way out knowing others will decide the issue.


17 posted on 11/20/2012 1:24:48 PM PST by taxcontrol
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Remember America, the home of the brave and the land of the free? It is now a totally corrupt cesspool of political operatives, all bought and paid with OUR money.


18 posted on 11/20/2012 1:26:08 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: Ingtar

If a corporation is a “person”, then why doesn’t it have religious freedom?


19 posted on 11/20/2012 1:28:33 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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This judge just took the easy way out knowing others will decide the issue.

IOW, another John Roberts.

20 posted on 11/20/2012 1:28:45 PM PST by Marathoner (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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