Skip to comments.St. Lucie elections officials suspend recount; tally to continue at 8 a.m. Sunday
Posted on 11/17/2012 8:05:36 PM PST by smoothsailing
By James Kirley, Eric Pfahler
FORT PIERCE The St. Lucie County Canvassing Board suspended its recount of all early voting ballots late Saturday night, saying members would return at 8 a.m. Sunday to complete the job.
The board made the announcement at 10 p.m. that it will continue tabulating write-in and provisional ballots Sunday after counting votes late into Saturday night as supporters for District 18 congressional candidates Patrick Murphy and Allen West watched the process.
Poll workers finished entering in early ballots for all precincts on Saturday evening, but the data has to be put into the computers for the final count. Also, write-ins and provisional ballots had not been counted before the security system at Orange Blossom Business Center was set to go off, Canvassing Board member Tod Mowery said Saturday.
Mowery said the data entry alone could take one or two hours.
Worn down supporters for both camps lingered inside the Orange Blossom Business Center outside the county supervisor of elections' office as canvassing board members and poll workers tabulated more than 37,000 early votes.
Murphy held a nearly 2,000-vote lead against opponent West in the District 18 congressional race.
Murphy attorney Sean Domnick said he was disappointed the votes weren't recounted by the end of Saturday night given that all of the workers were present.
They should have it finished tonight, Murphy attorney Sean Domnick said.
West campaign manager Tim Edson said if the process takes longer, so be it.
Obviously we look forward to seeing the results, Edson said. We've been pushing for this full recount of early voting. But again, there's time to get this finished. We want to make sure it gets done right. Our goal is to make sure people have confidence that this is a fair and accurate counting.
Suspending the recount ended a more than 12-hour day for the board that saw it played out in two different places.
While elections workers fed eight days worth of ballots into tabulating machines, lawyers for the West, Murphy, the St. Lucie County Canvassing Board and Supervisor of Elections Gertrude Walker were in Circuit Judge Larry Schacks courtroom across town.
The Murphy campaign sought an injunction to stop the recount ordered by the county Canvassing Board Friday night, saying it was illegal. But Schack ruled against Murphys request to stop it.
The ruling pleased attorneys for Allen Wests campaign. It had protested last Sundays partial recount of three days worth of early voting, saying the recount should have included all eight days.
Mr. Murphys papers filed in court today were both procedurally and substantively lacking, West attorney Chris Winkelman said, and for that reason the judge denied his order.
Wests team argued that Murphys campaign had insufficient grounds to argue that the countys canvassing board broke Florida law when it voted 2 to 1 Friday for Saturdays full recount of all early votes.
There is no allegation that Im aware of, from anybody, of illegal votes or rejection of legal votes, Domnick said. He argued the Florida Legislature passed strick statutes to limits when recounts can be demanded and these had been broken by the Canvassing Board.
Then, were right back to where we were before this statutory scheme was enacted by the Legislature, Domnick said, and thats allowing disappointed parties to henpeck at perceived irregularities and recount and recount and recount.
Judge Kathryn Nelson, the dissenting vote on the Canvassing Board, had been subpoenaed by Murphys attorneys to testify at Saturdays hearing. But she did not testify.
Instead, Schack ruled that Murphys request for an injunction to stop the recount failed to prove irreparable harm.
If Mr. Murphy comes out on the losing end of the recount, he has adequate remedy pursuant to Florida (law), Schack said.
Domnick said that would be to contest the election results in Leon County Circuit Court in Tallahassee.
But Domnick added he didnt expect Saturdays recount of ballots would reverse Murphys lead over West.
There arent enough votes out there to change this, Domnick said after the hearing. Patrick Murphy is the winner.
The recount, of all votes cast in early voting,not just those for District 18, was prompted by a state elections auditor finding a box of 306 early voting ballots Friday that never were counted.
It began at the Supervisor of Elections office on Okeechobee Road shortly after 11 a.m. Supervisor of Elections Gertrude Walker was hospitalized on Friday and was not at Saturdays recount. Her administrative assistant, Annie Clark, oversaw election workers.
The Canvassing Board has a tight window to finish the recount, as it must finalize results to send to the state by noon Sunday. The state certifies all races Tuesday.
Earlier Saturday morning, Canvassing Board member Tod Mowery addressed a crowd gathered behind a barrier of orange traffic cones that separated observers from machines and election workers. About 100 people were at the elections office by 9 a.m.
Mowery confirmed the 306 uncounted ballots had been noted Friday by state Division of Elections officials visiting St. Lucie County. Later, he said those uncounted ballots contained one or more write-in choices that caused tabulating machines to reject them.
All those ballots were cast on Nov. 1-3, the days which had been recounted last Sunday, Mowery said.
Regardless of what happens Saturday, the Fort Pierce mayoral race should not be affected. Mowery said all ballots had been recounted Wednesday in that close race, which Linda Hudson won over Vince Gaskin.
There was a heavy presence of law enforcement officers at Saturdays recount. Mowery said they were on site because there were open ballots in the room that needed protected.
Last Sunday, during a partial recount of early ballots, tempers flared among some observers when a lone sheriffs deputy ordered the building cleared moments after the Canvassing Board announced Murphy still led in votes.
In addition to observers from both Murphy and West campaigns, there also was a contingent from the U.S. House Administrative Committee at Saturdays recount. One of those observers, Mark Braden, said they had been called to Fort Pierce by the West campaign.
Braden said the District 18 contest was one of about a half-dozen races nationwide to which committee observers had been called.
On Friday, David Drury, head of the Division of Elections Bureau of Voting Systems Certifications on hand for the audit, made a personal recommendation the St. Lucie County Canvassing Board rerun ballots from five early voting days that hadnt been counted last Sunday. The board decided instead to count all eight days.
On Friday, St. Lucie County Judge Dan Vaughn denied Wests motion to order a recount of all 37,379 early ballots. Vaughn ruled he didnt have authority to call for a recount, but said his decision didnt bind the canvassing board from doing what they think is appropriate in these circumstances.
Thanks very much, smoothsailing.
My prayers belong to Col. Allen West!
They can’t seem to stop an alarm?
This gives them time to send in the buses of Obama voters to cause a scene.
How many dead folks voted twice?
Allen West Republic
12 minutes ago
UPDATE ALLEN WEST - I asked, how is the being automaticity set, when you guys were here until 2 am on election night.... They’re response to me.. We are closing. Sheriff then ask me leave
Allen West Republic
36 minutes ago
UPDATE ALLEN WEST - SOMETHING ODD AND FISHY PER @Gary_Galiano - they are shutting the mall down at 11 (an abandoned mall) for the alarm is set automatically at that time. They counted 37k votes in 12 hours but can’t count 304 votes in 2 hours. They kept yapping about the deadline and now this. SOMETHING IS ROTTEN IN DENMARK FOLKS BE PREPARED. They want to come back at 8am and their deadline is tomorrow by NOON.
I think they will never know the extent of the fraud. Ms. Walker is conveniently in the hospital and they shut down counting because of an alarm. (really lame excuse)
Something smells..I read earlier that they counted 37k votes in 12 hours but couldn’t count the remaining “missing” 304 votes in 2 hours time. The alarm excuse stinks to high heaven!
If they were OWS protestors, would the Sheriff order them out? (rhetorical)
Sure does. Stinks worse than the cat litter box right now.
Will the volunteers man a perimeter overnight?
What were the boxes the deputies carried in? What was the deal on ballots claimed to be found in a HS gym?
I hope they don't leave the building/mall...don't leave these ballots!!
Who’s watching those ballots?
After what went on in Washington state governor’s when they kept finding ballots until the rat candidate was over the top....I don’t trust anything these people do.
When does anyone hear of the possibility of a Republican stealing an election?
Your post mentioned Judge Nelson. She has had problems.
Nelson was arrested Oct. 25 after she struck a guardrail several times on the Merrill Barber Bridge in Vero Beach before crashing, according to police reports and a state Judicial Qualifications Commission investigation. She smelled of alcohol, her eyes were glassy and her clothes were in disarray. Nelson identified herself as a judge and refused to perform sobriety exercises.
The State needs to go through the voter records and see how many times SantaBama and H0lder and dead peeps and NYC’ers voted in the county.
Where were the four Star Generals that night?
Not sure. I read about that but have seen no further explanation.
I wonder if Sheriff is kicking them off the property also?
Hard to trust any vote in this County or any other that has no chain of custody to protect the sanctity of the vote.
So she thinks she’s special and above the law? Couldn’t have guessed.
The state is already showing sighs of surrender, governor says to get over it about the election.
I can’t think of a Republican County “finding lost” votes.
The State needs to become like a Pit Bull.
no matter what, IIRC, West can still get a full recount if he needs to by paying for it...now, between freepers, army vets, patriots and convervatives, etc....we’ll help him...
I've not heard that...do you have a link for that? If he's saying that, then he needs to hear from all of us.
She's the Canvassing Board member who was the dissenting vote in the 2-1 vote to have the recount.
Duplicated? Trouble there.
I no longer have any faith in the voting systems after seeing the following videos-
Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting Machines (Ohio) - 11:59
Urgent america......hacking democracy 9/9= Diebold voting machines are fraud! - 9:59
Hacking Democracy - Full Length - 1:21:58
Bev Harris of Black Box Voting did the last two, and they show that the memory cards containing the totals from the scanners are easily rigged by a competent programmer - Democrat OR Republican!
Without a full recount with *clean* machines West will still lose. We are screwed!
“The recount, of all votes cast in early voting,not just those for District 18, was prompted by a state elections auditor finding a box of 306 early voting ballots Friday that never were counted. “
If the chain of custody has been broken then they should not be counted. Reading the comments by West. It sounds like the election people have even found a way to cheat on recounting ballots. Those ballots are so tainted by now that counting them does not mean anything anyway. The whole election would have to be run over under controlled conditions.
Embarrassing that these women are so incompetent.
(I say that as a female, genetic female)
Crooked judge she is.
This pattern is vaguely familiar. Hm, where have I seen it before where there's shady dealings, a cover up, people suddenly are unavailable, stonewalling...
If they count the election day ballots, all heck breaks loose.
Sheriffs are union thugs with guns. They will not be our friends when the SHTF. Even our DOGS aren’t safe. The biatch in the ‘hospital’? That’s an evasive maneuver. Obviously. She done WRONG!
Another 304 ballots “found” tomorrow morning in a closet?
Lib-play handbook? ;)
I’d be embarrassed as heck if my County counted votes like that. Be it Dem or Repub or Indie, they wouldn’t get my vote and my taxpayer funded job.
Now that you mention it. She does have that look of one of the followers. :)
Surely they know how this looks.
“Don’t call her Shirley”!
Ahhh for “like” button :)
I know smooth is a he. The “Shirley” was meant for Ms. Walker and co. (felt i should explain the Airplane reference)
Maybe they could have dead people count the votes. Hell, they voted!
That movie was so un-PC and funny!
It seems to me that this is calculated to enable challenges. This was all a dog and pony show.
Certainly does. I hope the intention is not for it either a : circus, and exhibition of how to win an election by fraud, or for a new reality tv show called, “Counting Votes”. Draw in the male vote by skimpy dressed democrat vote counters like Ms. Walker and Judge Neslon. (the benedryl is kicking in now, i a m t y p i n g v e r y s l o w l y