Skip to comments.Cold Case Posse boss fingers Hawaii officials (Arpaio's deputy, Mike Zullo)
Posted on 11/16/2012 6:40:41 PM PST by Seizethecarp
An angry statement just sworn by the lead investigator of a team assigned to review Barack Obamas birth certificate says Hawaii officials who are Democrats like Obama are using elaborate non-cooperation to conceal birth records from law enforcement and the public.
Zullo, a seasoned sleuth who heads the team deputized by Joe Arpaio, recently re-elected sheriff of Maricopa County, Ariz., fingers Hawaiis governor, deputy attorney general and health department chiefs as obstructing justice.
Zullos affidavit charges these officials are hiding original birth records, thwarting the posses hunt for those who forged the document at the White House website.
His detailed catalog of Hawaiis misfeasance is shocking.
The department, Zullo said, has engaged in what the sheriffs investigators believe is a systematic effort to hide from law enforcement and the public whatever original 1961 birth records the Hawaii Department of Health may have in its possession.
Officials changed their policies and procedures in a manner calculated to hinder our law-enforcement investigation, he continued.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
It is not clear what legal venue this affidavit is designed to be filed in, or what motion it would support. It points to some kind of corruption charge against the State of Hawaii and its officials, which might be some kind of federal case, if Holder could be evaded.
Arpaio eligibility ping...
Link to Zullo’s latest affidavit that is the subject the article (well worth a read):
PING (as if you need one for this info ;-) LOL
Thanks for the ping.
was 0bama on the ballot in AZ?
even after official agents of the state found there is no evidence that the candidate is eligible to assume office?
so much for the ‘law’
someone please ask those idiots in AZ why they ignored their own findings and allowed 0bama on the ballot
This corruptions goes far beyond Hawaii.
How can ANY secretary of state allow Obama on the ballot in light of Sheriff Joe’s original findings?
Wouldn’t at least ONE secretary of state in our union say “Hey... I wanna see the proof”... or “Your signed affidavit is no longer good enough.
All secretaries of state are guilty.
And John Boehner will also be guilty if he fails to PROPERLY verify Obama’s credentials.
How is that even possible??? even if Obama pulls a valid BC out of his hat now, his father is STILL NOT A CITIZEN!
and don’t talk to me about dual citizen parents not being part of NBC!... Congress used the full NBC test against John McCain in 2008... Democrats then probed the citizenship of McCain’s parents... so they DO KNOW THE LAW!
Thank you, Nully dear. Here’s hoping we can get rid of O’Bambi before he gets rid of us.
Right before the election, Michelle Obama was posting an image on her Facebook page that claimed her husband was born to a single mom. It looks like they might be trying to create a backstory that removes any paternal citizenship rights.
Wonder if all the PhonyCons like Hannity, Levin, Coulter, Malkin, et al....are still calling Obama Eligibility people “9/11 Truthers”...and...did they all receive their Obama Thank You Notes yet?
These people actively helped Obama win a second term by attacking Birthers, Arpaio, and anyone questioning Obama’s Eligibility
Obama Supporter PhonyCons were a main reason why Obama was re-elected....not the giving of Amnesty to Illegal Aliens
Good to see the Posse still at work. Unlike the PhonyCon Media...there are still some good Conservative Americans out there
That is a 9 days' spread. Enough time for SAD to make the trip from Kenya or Canada. Or enough time for typical white granny to realize she needs to get him backdoored as a citizen and make arrangements to get him registered.
When they find the Holy Grail Barry’s BC will be next to it. :)
the hammer of THOR is about to make an appearance
Orly is still going for it and needs support.
Oh yeah, I’d like to see THOR hammer Obama’s fraud.
LJ, I haven’t ping you in ages so I pinged you. ;-)
I’m around and about...just too dang busy. For some reason time has compressed itself and I swear I’m getting the short end of the Time stick.
I always appreciate pings because I just don’t have the time to spend on FR I’d like.
We need more Real Men like Zullo, Arpaio and West.
Mix’n’match lies. One from column A, two from column B.
I think the FMS/SAD myth along with Gilbertson’s mockumentary may also have been to create a “two citizen parents” myth.
The “conservative” talk people who either ignored, or worse yet, ridiculed “birthers” are either chickens*** cowards, paid off, or something else.
If all of them had paid attention and done their research - or just read FR on air - we’d not be in the fix we’re in.
Here it is!
That's zero on the left, it seems no one really wants to know where he was born or who his parents were. The boy sitting next to him is the son of the kenyan and Anna. She was going to put him up for adoption, but the kenyan took him to Kenya when he left the US in late 1964.
That's Barack Hussein Obama 2 (BHO2 for short) ON THE RIGHT.
MONCKTON WROTE IT?
Holy Moses...he sounds just like everyone else. No wonder, they are all puddling around in the same pothole together. There’s nothing new there. They won’t find anything that isn’t in ‘Dreams’ unless they finally wake up that Ann S Obama and Anna Obama wasn’t Stanley Ann Dunham.
Dear little BHO2 is unmistakably his father's boy, and quite evidently just a few months older than little zero, where-as Mark, whom Ruth is holding, was born in 1965 when BHO2 was around four.
One step at a time...
Maybe he knows more than he’s saying or maybe he’s open to learning what other hard workers have found. Monckton is an unusual and a brave man.
I seriously think that more and more people are going to be interested in 0bastard’s real identity. He managed to get “elected” and people were hoping he’d be gone. I think there will be an upsurge of interset. How many people were saying “just focus on the issues and get someone else elected” etc. Well, it didn’t work, for a variety of reasons.
Now more focus needs to be, and I think will, on the criminal fraud of ineligibility, which naturally raises the question “Who the hell is he, anyway?”.
“You know what I’ve been saying all along; our research shows zero has the name of the child born to the kenyan and a girl named Anna (her maiden name would be on the original birth certificate) and that child was born in Hawaii around January 1961 just like Mary the baby-sitter said he was. Mary baby-sat the child Aunt Zeituni said the kenyan wrote home about.”
“That’s zero on the left, it seems no one really wants to know where he was born or who his parents were. The boy sitting next to him is the son of the kenyan and Anna. She was going to put him up for adoption, but the kenyan took him to Kenya when he left the US in late 1964.
“That’s Barack Hussein Obama 2 (BHO2 for short) ON THE RIGHT.”
To FReepers and lurkers who may be seeing this photo and hearing the above confusing claims (and the confusing claims about the Obama family photo several comments down): IMO the best evidence is that this is a circa 1970 photo of David and Mark Obama, as claimed by Mark (formerly Obama) Ndesandjo. The picture was first posted by Mark and is also posted and identified as being of Mark and David by another Obama half-brother, his older brother, Malik.
The strange, frankly incoherent claims made about the two photos (the two boys, Mark and David) and then the family photo of BHP Sr with his wife Ruth and their two sons, Mark and David) have been posted in furtherance of an hidden agenda of promoting an alternative narrative that Malcolm X is Barry Obama’s dad and a Lebanese actress, Valerie Sarruf, is Barry Obama’s mom. This is called the Mal-Val Narative.
You won’t get that from the comments in this thread about the Arpaio Cold Case Posse, but that is what the posting of these pictures and the strange claims about them are about.
An FR article about the Mal-Val narrative already has over 1000 comments and invited posting of “research” evidence in support of the Mal-Val claims including claims that the two boys are not who Mark Ndesandjo says they are. Her is the link and the article:
Re:”Mal and Val - not Ann and the Old Man” Any evidence Valerie Sarruf is Obama’s mom? (vanity)
Seizethecarp vanity commentary on Dr. Ron J. Polland youtube dated 08/07/11 ^ | August 1, 2012 | Seizethecarp (vanity)
Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2012 2:18:33 PM by Seizethecarp
“Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982.” Dr. Ron J. Polland
The Mal-Val youtube video at the link was posted by FReeper Polarik (Dr. Ron Polland) in August of 2011 and while morphing the image of a woman named Val into an image of Obama, he insinuates that Val is Obamas mom. One year later this youtube has only 1,150 views.
In July 2012, two FReepers associated the woman, Val, in Polariks Youtube with Lebanese actress Valerie Sarruf and have posted multiple images of her at various ages on FR eligibility threads. I am opening this thread to invite discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf is Barack Obamas mother, with or without Malcolm X being his father.
Where could Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have been in 1960 when baby Barry would have been conceived? Is there any evidence that Sarruf could have been pregnant and delivered a baby in 1961? In what country could the baby have been delivered? How and when could the alleged Mal-Val baby have been inserted into the identity and life narrative of the person we have come to know as Barack Hussein Obama?
Full disclosure: I refute categorically all of the Mal-Val narrative as wildly speculative and unsupported by any evidence that I have seen so far.
For several years now a shadowy coterie of FReepers styling themselves as researchers has gone onto nearly every FR eligibility thread to aggressively refute all evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was Barack Obamas mother. They have actually declared flat out that she was never in Hawaii before 1963, contrary to the voluminous evidence including INS FOIA documents!
Requests for links or any evidence that Stanley Ann is NOT the mom have been frequently met with abusive ad hominem attacks and accompanied by claims that ALL documentary evidence showing her to have been in Hawaii in 1960 and 1961 is forged, but no credible evidence of forgery has offered. I make this observation as a retired Certified Fraud Examiner and CPA.
For years the researchers had claimed mysteriously to have conclusive evidence that a different woman is Barrys mom, but refused to reveal her name or any evidence other than her picture because the researchers claimed it would disappear from the net and/or from hard copy archives of the records. But this month, the researchers appear to have slipped up and revealed that Valerie Sarruf has been the woman whose identity they have been protecting. They have since attempted to walk back the revelation, but it is clear, IMO.
The researchers claim that they earnestly want to remove Obama from office. But wouldnt revealing ALL EVIDENCE of a foreign mother and foreign birth (which they also claim) be the most logical approach to removing Obama rather than hiding the identity of this alternative mother for years while attacking FR threads that sincerely attempt to find out where Stanley Ann Dunham was when she gave birth to Barry?
In my opinion, the best evidence that Valerie Sarruf is NOT Barrys mother is the mountain of evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham IS his mother, which the researchers have totally failed to refute.
Again, please use this thread for discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf IS Barack Obamas mother with or without Malcolm X being his father.
You're wasting your breath on a ton of garbage most of which you invented in an attempt to take attention away from the obvious. The two little boys sitting together, regardless of what their names might be, are of a similar age - and one shows up in Kenya with his father at an age when he's old enough to come to Ruth's waist in height.
And what you can't explain is why the mythical 'David' is the mirror image of little zero. As the child of the kenyan and Ruth, there's no way the mythical 'David' could look like a child of the kenyan and Stanley Ann Dunham, hatched in the imagination of 'Dreams'. I'm not going to address your diatribe, I'll stick with the identification of the photographs, thanks.
For the collection. Born in the same year as zero, went to live in Kenya. Who is he?
Why not start your own thread or place your alleged “research” in the Mal-Val thread instead of hijacking this thread?
The latest Mike Zullo affidavit, subject of this thread, assumes at a minimum as fact the newspaper birth announcements for Barry and also the address of his presumed mom's parents, which is corroborated by the INS FOIA files and Polk. Zullo’s affidavit assumes that SADO is Barry's mom and neither you your anyone else has come up with and posted a shred of evidence to the contrary.
IMO, The actual David, whom you have posted dozens of times, only strongly resembles Barry, but is not a “mirror image,” as you claim. David obviously had more hair sooner than Barry when you compare their baby pictures.
There is no reason to question the identities of these boys as being other than David and Mark...unless you have an ulterior motive of attempting to prove that President Barry is the child of Mal and Val and was swapped at age 4 in HI for a different baby who was taken back to Kenya by BHO Sr....a theory that most FReepers will recognize to be delusional, I expect!
Which one is 'Barry'?
You and your handful of “researchers” seem to be the only ones who are confused about that!
In your Mal-Val narrative, SADO isn't POTUS Barry's mom or the mother of any boy. In the Mal-Val narrative SADO is supposedly the nanny of Mal and Val's secret baby who ultimately became POTUS and whom she took charge of in HI in 1964 or so. You claim to have research that supports this claim.
Meanwhile in the Mal-Val narrative the “original” BHO2 was a child of BHO Sr. but had a different mother, named Ann or Anna...with no document or evidence offered whatsoever sufficient to challenge SADO as the mom of BHO II in 1961.
See the Mal-Val thread and feel free to append it with a full discussion of the significance of this photo and any corroboration of ANY relationship between Sarruf and Malcolm X, other than this one time in Oxford!
I'm not asking you to tell me what you expect. I'm trying to show you there were two little boys, very close in age, sitting together somewhere in the US, and when Mark was about a year old, you can see one of the two little boys standing beside his father and stepmother, evidently in Kenya - to which the kenyan returned in late 1964.
You can accuse me of all sorts of weird motives, doesn't bother me at all. Nothing changes the fact that the children exist. You've been fooled into believing there was a 'David' - there never was. There were only ever two little boys born around 1961, and one of them is zero.
The child Ruth is holding is Mark, born in 1965.
I’m fairly certain that he himself is delusional.
The picture was obviously of the Obama family taken circa 1970 when Mark, born in 1965, was 5 and when David, born 1968, was 2-3.
Contrary to your assertion, these are the same two boys in this Obama family picture as in the picture of the two boys both of which came from Mark's personal photo collection, but we went over all of this numerous times before which is why I posted the Mal-Val thread to gather all evidence in one place. And on the Mal-Val thread in 1000 comments you failed to provide any evidence to support your misidentifications of these two brothers...other than one of them looks like POTUS Barry...so it must be him!
From what you posted on the Mal-Val thread, you seem to believe that the “dark boy” (that would actually be Mark Obama Ndesandjo) was born in HI to BHO Sr and Ann or Ann, was secreted to Kenya at age 4 and raised there by Ruth and then he grew up to be one Roman Obama who get a degree in Moscow and whose online bio info claims he is from Equatorial Guinea. But there isn't a shred of evidence for that alternative bio for Roman Obama presented anywhere...except maybe he “looks like” BHO Sr. This looks like exteme Conspiracy Theory to me!
You're getting there. You need to understand what the baby-sitter said. She baby-sat when her own daughter, who was born in July, 1959, was 18 months of age. That means the baby-sitting was in JANUARY 1961.
Seven months before your little 'Barry' was 'born'. And who did she baby-sit for?
THE WOMAN WHOSE NAME WAS IN THE SEATTLE POLK. ANNA OBAMA.
Anna, who planned to place the child up for adoption, but obviously didn't, because the father took the little boy to Kenya. (Where Malik said he remembers growing up with LITTLE BARACK in the village; maybe he was one of granny Sarah's little orphans?)
BTW, thanks for roughly rehashing the research, saves me the trouble...but I do wish you would learn to start at the beginning. You wouldn't be deliberately muddying the water, would you?
And that's about enough from me on the subject. The boss hates flame wars and this could end up being one.
still no answer?
Zullo’s affidavit does not in any way challenge SADO as the mom but assumes that she was the mom and that either she or her parents registered POTUS Barry's birth. Period.
The INS FOIA docs include a claim that SADO was pregnant and the docs include a claim that BHO Sr. was the dad and also that the birth occurred on Aug 4, 1961 and that the mom was living with her parents at the time. The intent of SADO to move to WA immediately after the birth is also claimed in the INS FOIA docs.
The Dunham’s address of the parents corroborated in Polk is the address in the newspaper articles announcing an child born to Mr. and Mrs, BHO Sr.
All of the claimed FOIA and newspaper docs and evidence can be subjected to forensic analysis if if came to that, but there aren't any documents or evidence that can be forensically verified in support of the Mal-Val narrative that I have seen.
Really? the “major claim” buried way down in the middle of the affidavit? and it mentioned that SADO could have submitted the announcement? Really?
Are you delusional?
Documents and newspaper announcements and birth certificates can be forged, but the flesh and blood people in these photographs are real. It's not the photographs that are suspect, it's the story the photographs are being USED FOR that is the LIE.
Mark made a huge mistake posting the images of the two little boys on his webpage. He used the image in his dedication of his book to the mythical 'David' - his REAL brother is actually BHO2 - the little boy on the right.
SOME PEOPLE DON’T NEED NO STINKIN RESEARCH. LOL!
Anyway, I’m not asking for much, I just want freepers to see they have been fooled, that’s all. So I show them photographs and they can make up their own minds.