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Obama Begins Push for New National Retirement System..401K at risk?
National seniors ^ | 11/11/2012 | National Seniors

Posted on 11/16/2012 7:16:48 AM PST by mikelets456

A recent hearing sponsored by the Treasury and Labor Departments marked the beginning of the Obama Administration’s effort to nationalize the nation’s pension system and to eliminate private retirement accounts including IRA’s and 401k plans, NSC is warning.

The hearing, held in the Labor Department’s main auditorium, was monitored by NSC staff and featured a line up of left-wing activists including one representative of the AFL-CIO who advocated for more government regulation over private retirement accounts and even the establishment of government-sponsored annuities that would take the place of 401k plans.

"This hearing was set up to explore why Americans are not saving as much for their retirement as they could," explains National Seniors Council National Director Robert Crone, "However, it is clear that this is the first step towards a government takeover. It feels just like the beginning of the debate over health care and we all know how that ended up."

A representative of the liberal Pension Rights Center, Rebecca Davis, testified that the government needs to get involved because 401k plans and IRAs are unfair to poor people. She demanded the Obama administration set up a "government-sponsored program administered by the PBGC (the governments’ Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation)." She proclaimed that even "private annuities are problematic."

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalseniorscouncil.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 401k; nationalize; obama; steal
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1 posted on 11/16/2012 7:16:55 AM PST by mikelets456
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State bailouts. F this!!!!!


2 posted on 11/16/2012 7:18:05 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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I knew without a doubt the takeover of 401K and IRAs would come up again if Obama got reelected.


3 posted on 11/16/2012 7:20:56 AM PST by bigbob
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Obama is here to finish what FDR started. Only the war saved us from the FDR.
4 posted on 11/16/2012 7:21:36 AM PST by throwback (The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: Irenic

Go ahead. Touch my 401K.


5 posted on 11/16/2012 7:22:07 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: mikelets456

Wouldn’t it be adorable to hear a San Fran Lib b%^&ch about Obama taking away his hard-earned money and putting it into the Collective Trust?

Go for it, Obama. Can’t wait.


6 posted on 11/16/2012 7:22:07 AM PST by Noamie
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The theft-wing wants to make sure they can steal your money and that they “equalize” things.


7 posted on 11/16/2012 7:22:15 AM PST by tiki
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God dammit! Go to HELL Barack! Go straight to Hell and enjoy boinking underage boys, you Marxist faggot.

Leave your hands off my 401(k), Roth, and investment accounts! I’ve been putting in for my own retirement for over 10 years, and I’ve got a fat portfolio thanks to shrewd investing. I am NOT paying for some lazy grubby-ass unemployed drug addict.

This straight up pisses me right off!


8 posted on 11/16/2012 7:22:30 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Irenic

Yeah, no one saw this coming. Of course unions, the AARP and the party will receive exemptions.


9 posted on 11/16/2012 7:22:42 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (George W. Bush is the Emmanuel Goldsten of the modern era.)
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Seize my retirement accounts and I’m gonna kick-start CWII all by myself if need be...


10 posted on 11/16/2012 7:23:41 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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Would not be surprised at all. Lots and lots of money in those 401k’s. I’m sure many in the Obama administration (including Obama) would just LOVE to roll them over into a “fairer” government-run pension system. One of Obama’s early cronies (forget her name) has written extensively on the advantages (her terms, not mine!) of a government guaranteed pensions over private sector investment.

We are living in interesting times, FRiends. And you know what the Chinese said about that...


11 posted on 11/16/2012 7:23:46 AM PST by DemforBush (100% Ex-Democrat.)
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I know this happened in Argentina a few years back and there has been mass speculation it would be attempted here, but how credible is this site that is being quoted?
12 posted on 11/16/2012 7:24:20 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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Google Theresa Ghilarducci. They want to turn all that money into an annuity...and decide what you get. I will zero mine out. Over my cold hard dead body will they do this.


13 posted on 11/16/2012 7:25:02 AM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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14 posted on 11/16/2012 7:26:44 AM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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I know a great deal about this plan.

It involves setting up a mandatory retirement account, and funding it through payroll. The funds are then required to be invested in a special government backed security (investment guarantees). This security is illiquid and will have has less than market returns.

There are loopholes for individuals to avoid this scenario in the bill, but that is the direction this is headed.

Although government takeover of 401k accounts has been talked about it is not pat of the legislation. It would, however, be easy enough to force conversion of 401k accounts and IRA accounts into this system.


15 posted on 11/16/2012 7:27:15 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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vintage hugo chavez, joe stalin


16 posted on 11/16/2012 7:29:26 AM PST by lurk
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I have downplayed all the hot headed talk of secession and revolution, but by God if they try the Argentinian route of confiscating private retirement savings, I hope and expect to see everyone responsible hanging from a lamppost.


17 posted on 11/16/2012 7:29:43 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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The whole article is speculation and spin. The National Seniors Council is a lobbying group looking for attention.


18 posted on 11/16/2012 7:29:52 AM PST by FewsOrange
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I had a wonderful 401k but on my last fishing trip the canoe overturned and...

If you still have a "personal retirement account" (IRA, 401k, 403b, etc) declared to the IRS, it is as good as gone.

The opportunity to pay the tax and get something of value is going fast.

19 posted on 11/16/2012 7:30:06 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Somehow I don’t think you’ll be alone.


20 posted on 11/16/2012 7:30:24 AM PST by EEGator
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