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ABC News: Hey, This Doctor Shortage Could "Crash" Obamacare
Townhall ^ | 11/15/2012 | Guy Benson

Posted on 11/15/2012 8:43:01 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 11/15/2012 8:43:09 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Gee, this Affordable Healthcare Act just keeps getting better & better.
2 posted on 11/15/2012 8:44:51 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: SeekAndFind

We will probably need doctors a lot sooner than 2025. There’s just this little notion that we may be losing many of the doctors we have right now.


3 posted on 11/15/2012 8:46:41 AM PST by formosa (consider me galt)
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To: Puppage

RE: this Affordable Healthcare Act just keeps getting better & better.

And less and less “affordable”.


4 posted on 11/15/2012 8:47:00 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Think there will be new doctors entering the field if most of the profitability is taken out of it? The pay in their field will be reduced to that of a veterinarian in no time if Obamascare continues.


5 posted on 11/15/2012 8:47:43 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: formosa

RE: We will probably need doctors a lot sooner than 2025.

Why not accept more applicants to Medical School?


6 posted on 11/15/2012 8:47:50 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s funny how many inconvenient facts the MSM is suddenly “discovering” now that the election is over.


7 posted on 11/15/2012 8:49:17 AM PST by Random_User_250 ("Democracy is indispensable to socialism." -- Vladimir Lenin)
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To: SeekAndFind

The next step will be to start importing doctors from third world countries as other countries with nationalized health care do to get cheap labor. Get ready for your doctor to be named Mohammed or Patel. Look at how many cases of fraud and/or illness caused by lack of proper medical procedures have been at the hands of foreign doctors and nurses. Scary stuff.


8 posted on 11/15/2012 8:49:54 AM PST by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: jsanders2001

RE: Think there will be new doctors entering the field if most of the profitability is taken out of it?

Have you ever noticed how many NURSES in our hospitals got their degree from overseas?

Here in New York alone I see many who graduated from the Philippines, India, South Korea and other places. They finished their degrees in their country, worked there for a while after graduation, then took our qualifying nurse’s exams and passed. Theyw ere then allowed to come here and work ( many eventually acquiring their green cards ).

I see the same thing happening for doctors in the next 10 years.


9 posted on 11/15/2012 8:51:10 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
"Why not accept more applicants to Medical School?"

And lower the standards!!!


10 posted on 11/15/2012 8:51:37 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: SeekAndFind
Government involvement in health care is costly and chaotic. However, those same points were made when Medicare was passed. Now, there is a constituency of Medicare recipients that prevents Medicare's repeal. A similar constituency will develop behind Obamacare. When you add the constituency of Obamacare recipients to the constituency of Medicare recipients, what politician will be proposing that the government get out of the health care field?

Why don't we learn from our mistakes?

11 posted on 11/15/2012 8:51:47 AM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: SeekAndFind
There is a very simple fix to this problem.

Lower the standards for medical school. Lets call this new approach Affirmative Action Medical Support Program for OBAMACARE.

12 posted on 11/15/2012 8:52:18 AM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: formosa

I suspect soon the medical profession will become like the military....you sign up and get your medical education paid, but in return you will go where they send you for your first 10 years.


13 posted on 11/15/2012 8:52:56 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: mosaicwolf
There is a very simple fix to this problem. Lower the standards for medical school. Lets call this new approach Affirmative Action Medical Support Program for OBAMACARE.

The roles of nurse pracitioners and physicians assistants will expand to include treatment of most routine illnesses and injuries.

14 posted on 11/15/2012 8:55:33 AM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: SeekAndFind

My my my, how far we’ve fallen since 1993! Back then, the Clintons swore up and down that nationwide free health care for all could be financed with a larger tax on cigarettes!


15 posted on 11/15/2012 8:56:28 AM PST by NRA1995 (CNN should be PNN (Propaganda, Never News))
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No problem: we will continue importing unqualified doctors from Third World hellholes. Going to a doctor will become more dangerous than staying home.(For older and sicker patients, this is ESPECIALLY true. Anyone who doesn’t understand that Death Panels are on the horizon is naive.) Insurance fraud will skyrocket.(Even now, foreign born doctors are disproportionately involved in such fraud.) And, oh, another thing: they will all vote Democrat.


16 posted on 11/15/2012 8:57:28 AM PST by Godwin1
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To: Joe 6-pack

“How is it hangin’ esse?”


17 posted on 11/15/2012 8:58:16 AM PST by EEGator
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To: SeekAndFind

Only stupid people will become doctors.....

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18 posted on 11/15/2012 8:59:53 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (0BAMA CHOSE to watch a MUSLIM SNUFF FILM rather than a HEROIC AMERICAN RESCUE FILM)
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To: SeekAndFind

19 posted on 11/15/2012 8:59:53 AM PST by ari-freedom (It's the bennies, stupid.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why would anyone bust their a** for 9 years just to get overworked and underpaid?


20 posted on 11/15/2012 9:00:03 AM PST by EEGator
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To: formosa

“We will probably need doctors a lot sooner than 2025. There’s just this little notion that we may be losing many of the doctors we have right now.”

Perhaps we will follow the British model and avert the shortage by replacing them with 26 year old middle eastern “surgeons” like the ones who bombed Glasgow International Airport in 2007.


21 posted on 11/15/2012 9:00:46 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: SeekAndFind

Not to worry. They will death panel the elderly and dumb down the doctor requirements.


22 posted on 11/15/2012 9:02:29 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: EEGator
Why would anyone bust their a** for 9 years just to get overworked and underpaid?

Well it beats the Gulag.

23 posted on 11/15/2012 9:02:36 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

Only an idiot would go into any primary care area. The only happy docs I know are specialists who can control their practice. ophthalmologists , plastic surgeons, hand surgeons, radiologists.


24 posted on 11/15/2012 9:02:36 AM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: mosaicwolf

We are inventing all kinds of doctor replacements — nurse practitioners, for example (sorry NPs). Pretty soon, anyone will be able to practice medicine as “doctors”.


25 posted on 11/15/2012 9:02:36 AM PST by sockhead (Socialism: trickle up poverty.)
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To: Godwin1

White Guy doctor here. I could work 24 hours per day every day of the week and I wouldn’t put a dent in the number of patients who want to see me. We are in for a very RUDE AWAKENING. And, yes, get ready for your serious medical conditions to be addressed by a salaried physician assistant or nurse practitioner. Maybe Dr. Muhammed will come in and take a look. Worse care, less frequently (as appointments will be rarer than gold), with fewer phone calls returned. Obama, Pelosi and Reid have destroyed our future.


26 posted on 11/15/2012 9:02:53 AM PST by BlueStateRightist
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To: SeekAndFind

Good luck finding a doctor that accepts new Medicare patients!


27 posted on 11/15/2012 9:03:23 AM PST by Average Al
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To: SeekAndFind

Blame the doctors is part of the dim playbook for when kenyancare fails. The marxists need enemies for the push to single payer.


28 posted on 11/15/2012 9:05:24 AM PST by lodi90
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To: BlueStateRightist

This is what I alluded to above...we’ll have NPs and PAs doing surgery and everything. Good grief.


29 posted on 11/15/2012 9:05:42 AM PST by sockhead (Socialism: trickle up poverty.)
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To: BlatherNaut
Perhaps we will follow the British model and avert the shortage by replacing them with 26 year old middle eastern “surgeons” like the ones who bombed Glasgow International Airport in 2007.


30 posted on 11/15/2012 9:06:03 AM PST by COBOL2Java (The GOP-e said "Beat a Marxist with a Liberal!" What a colossal blunder.)
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To: lodi90
"The marxists need enemies for the push to single payer"

Exactamundo

31 posted on 11/15/2012 9:06:50 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: SeekAndFind

A doctor just out of college is sad since the only real effective doctor takes years of actual experience treating patients. Pills from a computer model will be the new doctor.


32 posted on 11/15/2012 9:07:21 AM PST by Logical me
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To: BlueStateRightist
"Who is Doctor Galt?"
33 posted on 11/15/2012 9:07:23 AM PST by Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey ("I have an open mind ... just not so open that my brain falls out onto the floor!!")
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To: Godwin1

Why go to medical school? If you don’t need identification to vote why do you need any to “practice” medicine? ;-)


34 posted on 11/15/2012 9:07:59 AM PST by Average Al
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To: formosa

Many doctors will just retire or cut back on hours. Know 2 retiring and a 3rd that is cutting hours. “Why work if I can’t keep the money I make? I’ll cover my expenses and make what I need then shut the doors and wait out this four years.”

Sadly, don’t think it’ll be better after Obama is out. Permanent damage and with the vote theft at the polls and vote buying via taxdollars away from the polls, unlikely a Republican will ever win national office again.


35 posted on 11/15/2012 9:08:21 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: Puppage

Have you ever noticed that whatever they officially name a bill, it always does the opposite. It is if it is by design. lol


36 posted on 11/15/2012 9:09:08 AM PST by sheana
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To: Pining_4_TX
You nailed it! It's already happening, and I've had 2 foreign "doctors" that have almost killed me already...

Word of warning from experience: Look to your own health! Do not rely on the "healthcare" business (and yes, it is a business) to do anything but put you in a corral to lay insurance egg-payments for them...

the new slavery? These guys also bury their mistakes...

37 posted on 11/15/2012 9:09:11 AM PST by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: BlueStateRightist

This white guy doc agrees with all you say.

Plus, what others do not think about, is the young folks who come out of med school anywhere from 200-500k already in debt, and then come into a system that doesn’t want to pay them.

Who in their right mind would want to do that? A young person wanting to be a doc in modern American must approach it with missionary zeal, because that’s what it’s similar to.

Every doc I know who has kids interested in health care are trying to get them in DENTAL school, which has so far (but not for long) appeared to escape the brunt of Obamacare.

It’s a mess for which their is only one solution - a 2 tiered system, and the Obamaphiles ain’t gonna like that.


38 posted on 11/15/2012 9:09:26 AM PST by Clarence
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To: dfwgator

I don’t know. Engineering school is making me crazy...I might welcome death.


39 posted on 11/15/2012 9:09:35 AM PST by EEGator
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To: BlueStateRightist
Obama, Pelosi and Reid have destroyed our future.

As if they care. The nomenklatura will always receive the best care from the best doctors and the best hospitals. As for everyone else, well, sorry comrade.

40 posted on 11/15/2012 9:09:34 AM PST by COBOL2Java (The GOP-e said "Beat a Marxist with a Liberal!" What a colossal blunder.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There’s a reason the Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea, etc., ended up with empty shelves and no innovation.


41 posted on 11/15/2012 9:09:43 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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42 posted on 11/15/2012 9:10:09 AM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Universal health care does not equal universal health care. It equals being universally free to stand in line for health care that you might never get.


43 posted on 11/15/2012 9:10:40 AM PST by JediJones (Newt Gingrich warned us that the "King of Bain" was unelectable. Did you listen?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh, and remember how “proud” Romney was of Romneycare?


44 posted on 11/15/2012 9:10:56 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: SeekAndFind
When I was young, doctors were one of the most esteemed members of a community.

Now, it seems, they will become slaves to the state, indentured to perform a needed service to the masses.

-PJ

45 posted on 11/15/2012 9:11:25 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Don’t know where you live, but my cardiologists are named Kiran Kareti and Krishna Malineni and my endocronoligist is named is Smita Gupta. I live in Indianapolis.


46 posted on 11/15/2012 9:12:16 AM PST by redangus
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To: dfwgator
"Why would anyone bust their a** for 9 years just to get overworked and underpaid?"

Well it beats the Gulag."


Comrade, Amerika is a gulag.
47 posted on 11/15/2012 9:12:47 AM PST by Darteaus94025
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To: Clarence
Every doc I know who has kids interested in health care are trying to get them in DENTAL school, which has so far (but not for long) appeared to escape the brunt of Obamacare.

Or my daughter, who is using her GI bill to become a nurse anesthetist.

48 posted on 11/15/2012 9:13:23 AM PST by COBOL2Java (The GOP-e said "Beat a Marxist with a Liberal!" What a colossal blunder.)
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To: SeekAndFind
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49 posted on 11/15/2012 9:13:23 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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the revolt will come when the government checks stop arriving in the inner cities or the first time a group of senior citizens figures out that they have to wait 2 or 3 months to see their primary care doctor ...that’s when politicians get pulled out of their houses ...


50 posted on 11/15/2012 9:13:23 AM PST by thestob (THESE are the times that try men's souls.)
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