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WH Petition to enable real time reporting during voting - design to cut fraud and drive voting ^ | 11/14/2012 | 4yourcountry

Posted on 11/14/2012 7:57:41 PM PST by CriticalThinking

WH Petition: Click link to vote

In a world of real time information why is our voting system so arcane? Why for example are election results held until after all voting is over? We have polls that suggest how we are going to vote, but in the 2012 election we learned that there are D+8 and R+2 models that reflect how many Republicans or Democrats are going to to vote. Why don't we provide the real answer in real time:

Tally Results as they Occur: If the election is on a single day, or months long with early voting, the results should be posted in real time. People should know immediately which way the vote is headed. Based on that information, they can decide if they need or want to vote.

1) Open Source the data: Provide a common "Open Source" XML schema that provides constant update of # of registered voters in each district, compares it to residency, reflect the number of provisional votes, etc. Show every bit of "Meta Data" that reflects on key trends. Let third parties (Democrat, Republican, Media, etc.) mine this data for fraud.

2) Change your vote: Voters should be able to elect to change their vote. This reduces elements of privacy, but if a voter wants they should be able to change their vote back and forth up and until midnight of the election. Everyone already knows how I vote because of political donations and other demographics. There is no privacy. We should be able to go a step further and actually secure a voting profile with 2 factor authentication to determine if someone has voted in my place.

3) Voter ID: When I get a loan or make an on-line transaction, some times the systems ask me a question for which only I would know the answer - "What kind of car did you have in 1995 - Jeep, VW or GMC". Its a variation on voter ID, but perhaps easier than assuring photo id's for everyone (why photo IDs are hard is a whole other question).

4) Registration Plus: People are all worried about voter ID leading to suppression or violating someone's rights. Alternately, if you offer an advanced form of registration you can incentivize people to strengthen voter ID. If you develop a program like TSA PRE (A program where TSA checks your back ground and stream lines you through security) its possible to motivate people to reduce voter fraud. For example, if you are willing to use Voter ID that is double checked, then you can vote on-line, vote early, re-vote up until poll closing, etc. By electing a higher level of registration and disclosure, you get services that make it easier to vote.

TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: sourcetitlenoturl; voterfraud

1 posted on 11/14/2012 7:57:48 PM PST by CriticalThinking
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To: CriticalThinking
Its a variation on voter ID, but perhaps easier than assuring photo id's for everyone

Nothing is easier than assuring picture IDs for everyone. You can't cash a check without a picture ID, in our town your social worker won't even talk to you without a picture ID.

The notion that a picture ID is hard is flatly untrue. There is one party with a vested interest in vote fraud and everyone knows it.

2 posted on 11/14/2012 8:03:44 PM PST by marron
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To: marron

The key idea is to show the vote the days and weeks up to the election, and even that day. That should get laggards off their ass and into the voting booth. People with IDs should get the privilege of easier and quicker voting. Or associating you ID with your vote if your afraid of your vote being compromised.

3 posted on 11/14/2012 8:10:34 PM PST by CriticalThinking
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To: CriticalThinking

How about everyone just votes on election day the way that it is supposed to be? Voting for the future of the country isn’t something that should be down whenever you get around to it. Election day voting only would eliminate all of the voter fraud that we are now seeing.

4 posted on 11/14/2012 8:23:10 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (We need Comprehensive Election Reform, NOW!)
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To: CriticalThinking

Legal and accurate voting could be handled flawlessly by Charles Schwab, FedEx, NetFlix, EBay or even PetSmart. It isn’t going to change because the beltway community doesn’t want it to change. Government need corruption to feed itself.

5 posted on 11/14/2012 8:31:07 PM PST by Baynative
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To: CriticalThinking

My nephew posted information from these links on facebook and I have expressed my opinion on them. I thought you might like to look over these “enlightened” new and improved voting schemes. You can assume if any idiot writes about it there are other idiots wanting to implement. I think their reasoning is very convoluted.

7 posted on 11/14/2012 8:54:20 PM PST by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: Eye of Newt
"Cross checked paper ballots, poll watchers, voter ID, and no early voting aside from certified absentee ballots."

Exactly Eye of Newt. If a voter can change his vote until the polls close a government agency can change it after the polls close but not reflect that change in the total vote. Paper, with ballots counted at the precinct with all party representatives present, and ballots sealed in secured boxes, transported under guard, and the boxes never opened without a court order; the local counts are the legal counts. That is the only verifiable election. High tech is fine for shopping, surveillance, credit checks, but anything but transparent, as voting must be. No one who has investigated our voting systems, and who knows a bit about computer and communications systems can certify that this election reflects the intent of those who voted.

8 posted on 11/14/2012 9:12:26 PM PST by Spaulding
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To: CriticalThinking

First thing is you have voter Id

Then poll watchers’

last but not least if the voting machine can’t read your vote it goes in the garbage!!!!! No people looking at voters cards trying to determine how the voter wanted to vote!!!

9 posted on 11/14/2012 9:38:59 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: CriticalThinking

Why are people petitioning our Federal Marxist overlords?
It only encourages them.
If you want changes to election law petition your State governments.

10 posted on 11/14/2012 10:09:22 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: CriticalThinking

What most refuse to acknowledge is that it was unlikely that ANYBODY could have beaten the voter fraud planned and perpetrated by the Obama machine. They seem to prefer pointing fingers, blaming Romney and blathering on about Patraeus' sex life.

Col Allen West; "I don't want to see America become like Zimbabwe where people don’t trust their electoral process. If we cannot trust the integrity of the voting system then we are no longer a free republic".

Col West has opened the door.

We must fight election fraud.

It falls on ‘We the People’.

Silence is consent

There’s overwhelming evidence of fraud.- Here


SARAH PALIN speaks out on Twitter about massive Obama machine voter fraud:

>Sarah Palin News ‏@SarahPalinLinks Between suppression of the military vote and voter fraud, Obama stole another election. …DEMAND A RECOUNT! #VoterFraud

>Sarah Palin News ‏@SarahPalinLinks People need to stop pointing fingers within the GOP and investigate the Dems' massive voter fraud and suppression of the military vote.


>MITT ROMNEY in 2012! ‏@PlanetRomney #tcot The Competent Conservative: Elections Have Not Yet Been Certified, Here’s What You Can Do:

>> These electi...


Excerpt from Mitt Romney's reference:

These elections are NOT certified yet. The only way to get this investigated, much less recounted or overturned, is through the Secretary of State of each of the five key states: Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. EVEN IF YOU ARE IN ANOTHER STATE you can help. But it won’t do any good to dilute our effort to challenge California or Michigan or other states. Until a major group gets involved to do more, here is the plan: Contact the Secretary of State of the state in question. See contact information below...

Read the rest- Here


The website,'Barack Obama Vote Fraud 2012' is keeping a running account of cases of voter fraud and what to do about it:

(Astonishing!) > Visit the site- Here
Sign this petition- Here

Another website:

Is There Enough Evidence of Voter Fraud To Merit a Recount? If you wish to add your voice, click here and sign the petition for a recount Here-

< Hannity and Col Allan West slam voter fraud Nov 12- Here

Photo of SOMALIANS brought to Ohio voting stations by the busload, 95% of whom did not speak English, and told to vote for Obama, straight Dem ticket- Here

Must watch videos!

VIDEO-- Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting- Here

VIDEO- Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers- Here

VIDEO- MICHAEL SAVAGE: How Obama fixed the 2012 election- Here

VIDEO- Massive voter fraud discovered in April- Here

VIDEO- Whistle blower speaks out about voter fraud- Here


We can not wait for 2014 and 2016 to regroup and figure out new strategies. By then it will be too late. The Marxist/Muslim usurper will have completed his planned distruction of America. That's what people fail to understand.

We must act NOW.

Start with the election. If we let the Rats get away with this massive voter fraud, we're no better than a bananna republic.

We must keep digging and pounding him every day, in every way we can- phony birth certificate, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, his hidden life, records....

We are FReepers. We must fight!

Those who shrug and accept this atrocity without a fight are not worthy to be called Freepers!

Join us!! See thread, 'BARACK OBAMA FRAUD 2012- (MUST READ- MUST GO VIRAL!)' thread- Here

11 posted on 11/14/2012 10:36:36 PM PST by patriot08 (Native Texan)
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To: CriticalThinking
..... LOL ..... this is a typical ploy of this administration ...... DO THE THING ..... then stand up high ..... and come forth as the mighty saviour to prevent such a horrible thing in the future. The end result is to become the saviour against such a fraud.

Next step is to accuse your opponents of trying to do what you just did. They, the opponents, will be seen as evil .... and then this administration will be seen as the righteous saviour. Quite brilliant actually..... and they WILL get away with it while the GOP will stand by and scratch their collective heads and wonder what just happened. LOL

12 posted on 11/14/2012 10:38:56 PM PST by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: CriticalThinking

FK that.

All results need to be audited and they are as proscribed by law in each state.

Usually, the law requires 6 to 7 weeks for adjustments of errors and fraud so the Electoral College can vote their pledge with confidence the results are as they should be.

Real time would not allow for corrections of errors and that is what you want. Elections based on whatever the news orgs project and they have been as wrong as the weather man.

13 posted on 11/14/2012 11:28:49 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

I have no doubt that ANYTHING the demodummies promote related to our electoral process will only turn in thier favor. They have figured out millions of way to cheat. Expecting them to turn away from those tactics isn’t going to happen in my liftime.

Our entire electroal voting process needs a complete trashing and replacement. When/if that happens, at least for a while, it will be more even until the demodummies find the loopholes again and start slipping through those.

14 posted on 11/15/2012 3:24:02 AM PST by DaveA37
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