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Why Does Democratic Socialism Scare Ignorant People So?
Current TV ^ | November 14, 2012

Posted on 11/14/2012 4:09:22 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Democratic Socialism is actually a good and necessary instrument for a free society; its true meaning has been demonized by the right in order to allow the corporate rich to get even richer. The misguided have been told that any form of socialism is evil and can be compared to Nazism. Non-thinking people get very frightened to hear this analysis and will vote against anything they believe appears to resemble this disastrous form of government even if it means rejecting benefits that will improve their own well being.

A nation will not survive without Democratic Socialism. It's socialism that provides a fire department and police protection and schools to educate all children not just those born to the well off.

Democratic Socialists believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically—to meet public needs, not to make profits for a few. To achieve a more just society, many structures of our government and economy must be radically transformed through greater economic and social democracy so that ordinary Americans can participate in the many decisions that affect our lives

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: algore; failure; fascists; manbearpig; nazi; runslikeagirl; socialism
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From a former VP and recent democrat presidential candidate. Pray for America.
1 posted on 11/14/2012 4:09:30 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Where’s the BARF ALERT?


2 posted on 11/14/2012 4:11:36 PM PST by madison10
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Wow, Democrats are socialists! That’s not exactly a surprise. I wish they would at least own it. Then I can call them socialists freely.


3 posted on 11/14/2012 4:15:37 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Let’s see ‘em sell that BS to the Cambodians of the 1970’s and 1980’s.


4 posted on 11/14/2012 4:15:49 PM PST by exnavy (Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I love when liberals say “educate” when they damn well mean “indoctrinate.”


5 posted on 11/14/2012 4:16:20 PM PST by clintonh8r (Happy to be represented by Lt. Col. Allen West)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The ignorant people, Algore, are the ones who are unaware of the hundreds of millions of their own citizens "socialist" governments have murdered since 1900 AD.

Or maybe you are well aware, and plan on being one of the murderers rather than one of the murderees.

6 posted on 11/14/2012 4:17:40 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: exnavy

How about this one, anyone remember the: United Soviet Socialist Republic? Back in the day we called ‘em commies, to me they still are.


7 posted on 11/14/2012 4:18:11 PM PST by exnavy (Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; Fred Nerks; Beckwith; null and void; LucyT; mojitojoe; TigersEye; ...

The misguided have been told that any form of socialism is evil and can be compared to Nazism>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Wrong. This is an attempted gloss to confuse the historical test of what Nazism, or fascism is. Fascism has 2 components:

1) nationalism ( in the case of Obama it is black power or minority nationalism, usually involving an histrical justification involving justice for the sins of our forfathers) and

2) socialism ( the removal of wealth from thoose who have earned it through taxation or confiscation and the redistribution according to a Utopian scheme)

Both of these factors are very much present in the Obama Matrix which now seeks to govern the USA by executive fiat
and the procedural alienation of a democratic congress.

Few people understand the importance of undrstanding the Obama movement as a fascist movement. Its simple, in order to defeat the Obama Matrixc, one must know the nature of the enemy and its weakness. And there ARE weaknesses.

This article delineates in detail the nature of Obama’s fascism:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html


8 posted on 11/14/2012 4:18:18 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

When private industry fails to hire, people turn to government for jobs. They don’t give a crap if that is called socialism, they have families to support.


9 posted on 11/14/2012 4:18:20 PM PST by ex-snook (without forgiveness there is no Christianity)
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To: madison10

They don’t scare me, but a fat bloated rapist who was a former presidential candidate does. When he blows the whole neighborhood will be drenched in reams of fat.


10 posted on 11/14/2012 4:18:25 PM PST by lwoodham (I am Andrew Breitbart. Don't doubt me on this.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Non-thinking people get very frightened to hear this analysis...

Yes only the non-thinkers reject socialism, you insufferable, perverted, smug asshole.

The real thinkers go on to accomplish great things through socialism... like Cuba, Detroit, North Korea, the USSR, California. Greece etc.

11 posted on 11/14/2012 4:18:43 PM PST by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; cripplecreek
Why Does (National) Socialism scare so many people?

Its not Culture Destroying Communism.

Nor is it the Thieving Jewish Exploitation form of Capitalism.

It is what is called a Third Way


12 posted on 11/14/2012 4:21:51 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Right up there with Market Socialism.

These people are nuts. They want your money.


13 posted on 11/14/2012 4:21:54 PM PST by gotribe
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Placing an ad hominem at the start of an argument does not bode well for its conclusion.


14 posted on 11/14/2012 4:22:44 PM PST by matt1234
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Because it’s damned scary.


15 posted on 11/14/2012 4:23:47 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
here's the message without the candy coating...

Christianity Is Stupid, Communism is Good
16 posted on 11/14/2012 4:24:40 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Socialism is theft, you bloated cow.

A man who thinks the center of the earth is "several millions of degrees" has forfeited all right to call anybody ignorant.

Chakra that, fat ass.

17 posted on 11/14/2012 4:25:15 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
This is why the USA was organized as a representative republic.

It probably is not that anymore, but this is why it was organized that way.

People searching for their "roots" or their national conscience should read (if they CAN still read and comprehend) the Declaration of Independence, the Federalist Papers, and the Constitution - in that order.

If people would take the time to read and understand, we would not be in this current situation.

18 posted on 11/14/2012 4:25:24 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
America's Elite New Normal:

.. stated goal of some among them.. to kill 60 million Americans if necessary to create their version of democratic socialism.

Abe blames us.. You initiated a policy to tolerate the Marxist-Alinsky radicals and let them rant; not only has it not ceased but was constantly augmented by decades of infiltration and indoctrination. You now have two Americas. In my opinion, it will not cease until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half statist and half free; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other.


19 posted on 11/14/2012 4:25:41 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Current TV = PBS for the uneducated.
20 posted on 11/14/2012 4:25:41 PM PST by Happy Rain ("Obama is Satan's evil twin.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

A feudalistic government (like any ‘socialism’ is) works.

Just not very well. There is little money in the economy for schools, roads, whatever.

A religious socialism like Islam is better than ‘democratic’ socialism- it gives the masses a heaping serving of opiate to swallow their wretchedness down with.
Marx saw the flaw in his theories all along.

A ‘nuclear’ government, like the US is quickly devolving from, provided the most wealth for the most citizens.


21 posted on 11/14/2012 4:26:13 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: KC_Lion
"Workers of all lands, unite - to smash the rule of English capitalism! You young upward-striving nations of the earth, combine to annihilate the old English dragon who blocks the treasures of the earth and withholds from you the riches of the world."

-Robert Ley, German Labor Front Leader (Hitler's Trumpka)
22 posted on 11/14/2012 4:26:33 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Why Does Democratic Socialism Scare Ignorant People So?

Excuse me?

If it weren't for the ignorant, socialism would never gain a foothold anywhere.

23 posted on 11/14/2012 4:27:16 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Why Does Democratic Socialism Scare Ignorant People So?...welll goollleeee - I'd better get on board with Democratic Socialism, so I can prove I'm not ignorant - on the other hand as a valedictorian, phi beta kappa, Ph.D. I've already pretty well demonstrated that, and by gosh Democratic Socialism still scares me......
24 posted on 11/14/2012 4:28:58 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

” — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed...”

“— That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”


25 posted on 11/14/2012 4:29:44 PM PST by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Romney & Ryan.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael; mickie

Just look at these pictures!!


26 posted on 11/14/2012 4:30:17 PM PST by MVV (Proud USMC Mom!!)
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To: exnavy
Let’s see ‘em sell that BS to the Cambodians....

Or the Russians, Chinese, North Koreans, Vietnamese, Cubans, Zimbabweans, and on and on...

All democracies.

27 posted on 11/14/2012 4:30:29 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
My IQ is at least 20 points higher than the median...and average...IQ of this month's Rat voters.
28 posted on 11/14/2012 4:31:20 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

With radicals like the leftists, *bag of hammars dumb*, is the new *intelligent*.


29 posted on 11/14/2012 4:32:22 PM PST by Truth2012
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To: exDemMom

Socialism as stated in the article implies that people work at producing value and then contribute to mutually beneficial entities, like a fire station.

Amerikan socialist believe in STEALING from the producers and HANDING it over to the parasites in exchange for the vote.

The country has tipped...

Sell out, get out.


30 posted on 11/14/2012 4:32:55 PM PST by Huebolt (United Socialist States of Amerika. Thank you I.N.S. (Immigration - National Suicide))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“The misguided have been told that any form of socialism is evil and can be compared to Nazism.”

Huh? I wish. The left won the Nazi blame game, and mist everyone thinks of them as being on the right and socialists opposite them, even though the “zi” part of Nazi comes from German for “socialist.” Convincing people that’s meaningful is like holding back a dam with your thumb.


31 posted on 11/14/2012 4:35:03 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Bolsheviks were originally Social Democrats. Once they’ve been voted into power, Democratic Socialists drop the Democratic part without further ado. And there are no more elections. Once they’re in, the only way to get Socialists out again is by revolution.

Jefferson said that the Tree of Liberty has to be watered from time to time with the blood of tyrants and patriots, and that that is its only manure. We may be close to one of those times.


32 posted on 11/14/2012 4:35:03 PM PST by Argus
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To: matt1234
Placing an ad hominem at the start of an argument does not bode well for its conclusion.

Or anything between the two.

33 posted on 11/14/2012 4:36:09 PM PST by Bob
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To: cripplecreek
annihilate the old English dragon who blocks the treasures of the earth and withholds from you the riches of the world

Whoa, I had never heard that before, that comes right out of today's leftist playbook!

It is stupefying to me that these peoples don't see (or don't want to) the path they are setting out on has been traveled before by the Nazis!!!!

Good G-d, is this what it has come too?

34 posted on 11/14/2012 4:36:39 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
demonized by the right in order to allow the corporate rich to get even richer.

I would assume that this author supports Obamacare, one of the most corporatist pieces of legislation ever passed, designed to codify monopolies and keep others out.

35 posted on 11/14/2012 4:37:39 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

If Socialism is so great how come the people of Spain and Portugal are rioting tonight. It sure is not a celebration of all their gains under socialist programs.
How come Greece is broke? Why is Italy on the skids? Etc.


36 posted on 11/14/2012 4:41:40 PM PST by Oldexpat
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To: Huebolt

A sentence right out of a SAUL ALINSKY play book. Replayed by the SOCIALIST FRAUD GORE. We must step up the game or these anti american frauds will completely take this country over.


37 posted on 11/14/2012 4:41:57 PM PST by spawn44 (moo)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Why does capitalism scare liberal dipshits?


38 posted on 11/14/2012 4:44:09 PM PST by Sybeck1 (When do the vodka rations start?)
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To: madison10
Where’s the BARF ALERT?

It's been relegated to a Homeland Security reeducation center. It will soon emerge as the "joyous news announcer".

39 posted on 11/14/2012 4:45:12 PM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: KC_Lion
And when people say that Hitler outlawed the unions you know they're lying. Hitler outlawed individual unions and combined them into one national union called the Labor Front. Its also important to nte that he replaced "uncooperative" corporate heads like was done with GM.

The trade unions that were swayed by Marxist teaching did not want social peace. They calculated that their chances of acquiring political power would improve with the growing dissatisfaction of the workers. One of the first necessities with which the Hitler Government found itself faced was that of dissolving the organizations that kept alive the antagonism between employers and employees. They were replaced by the Labour Front.

-Robert Ley
40 posted on 11/14/2012 4:45:16 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

That chart covers individual states except under the heading “colonialism,” which I assume adds up all murders which can be blamed on governance by foreign powers, likely usually European. Isn’t that cheating? Doesn’t consistency demand you divide those murders up between the individual countries who committed them?


41 posted on 11/14/2012 4:46:26 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Sybeck1

And Romney scared the liberal dipshits by threatening to create 12 million jobs.


42 posted on 11/14/2012 4:46:42 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’ve never heard socialists like the author address this question: if socialism is so good, why have so many fled socialist governments over the years for the U.S. and why don’t more Americans flee to socialist countries?


43 posted on 11/14/2012 4:49:33 PM PST by Proudcongal
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
It's because we like what we do.

We like guns. We like beer. We like tobacco. We like the possibility of making a killing, or at least a living off our dreams.

Next question.

44 posted on 11/14/2012 4:50:37 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The reason they have to keep playing word games that alternate between denying they’re socialists and arguing that everyone is a socialist is that people don’t want socialism, for some very good reasons. And they will not talk about what those reasons are.


45 posted on 11/14/2012 4:50:37 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: KC_Lion
And just for kicks, here are a few items from the nazi planks adopted in Munich in 1920.

We ask that the government undertake the obligation above all of providing citizens with adequate opportunity for employment and earning a living.

The activities of the individual must not be allowed to clash with the interests of the community, but must take place within its confines and be for the good of all.

Therefore, we demand:

an end to the power of the financial interests .

We demand profit sharing in big business.

We demand a broad extension of care for the aged.

We demand. . . the greatest possible consideration of small business in the purchases of the national, state, and municipal governments.

In order to make possible to every capable and industrious [citizen] the attainment of higher education and thus the achievement of a post of leadership, the government must provide an all-around enlargement of our system of public education. . . .

We demand the education at government expense of gifted children of poor parents. . .
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The government must undertake the improvement of public health — by protecting mother and child, by prohibiting child labor — by the greatest possible support for all clubs concerned with the physical education of youth.
>br>We combat the . . . materialistic spirit within and without us, and are convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only proceed from within on the foundation of " The Common Good Before the Individual Good ."

46 posted on 11/14/2012 4:51:02 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: spawn44

wow, real f n american citizen communist a holes out in the open


47 posted on 11/14/2012 4:53:15 PM PST by dontreadthis
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Socialism is slavery. It was wrong in 1860, it’s wrong now.


48 posted on 11/14/2012 4:54:35 PM PST by meyer (Proud member of the 53%.)
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To: exDemMom
"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism.
fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America
will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."
~Norman Thomas,American socialist, pacifist, and six-time
presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America
49 posted on 11/14/2012 4:55:22 PM PST by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: popdonnelly

Democrats are socialists?! Really?! I thought they were Communists. Oh well. My bad.


50 posted on 11/14/2012 4:57:22 PM PST by MrChips (MrChips)
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