Posted on 11/14/2012 2:41:57 PM PST by fso301
If people were in those in those good paying jobs promised by free trade, they would have voted Republican. They would not have to rely on Obama to survive.
Good paying jobs via free trade is a different topic but not one Republicans are completely at fault for. Clinton is afterall the one who opened the floodgates to China.
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The GOP-e could stand to actually learn something from the humble makers of dog food, evidently.
"GOP-e"? There were enough voters out there who didn't like any kind of Republican to lose us the election.
Possibly there were enough voters who didn't go to the polls for Romney but would have voted for a Reagan to turn things around, but there wasn't any Reagan running this year.
If you think Romney or McCain or Dole was a weak candidate -- and I don't disagree about any of them -- but you can't find a candidate who could beat them, maybe it's as much your problem (or our problem) as theirs.
Sure a great conservative candidate could beat a mediocre RINO, but if all the candidates are mediocre, saying that some excellent, nonexistent candidate could win isn't saying much.
Assuming that, as the author says, conservative values are dead in America, then what’s the point?
Of course they left that out. That would be admitting the bleeding obvious...that the GOP being the party of small, much less-intrusive government is a lie. Has been a lie since 1995. Probably longer than that.
It would also force the party base and rank and file to admit that the country isn't changing...it's already changed and praying to the ghost of Reagan isn't going to change it back. But worst of all for those still in denial it would mean realizing that in order to to take on and beat the Free Sh*t Army, you're going to have to form a real coalition with the libertarians. Don't look for the libertarian wing of the GOP because it's not there anymore. The RNC and it's Bruce Campbell impersonator saw to that at the convention.
It's going to mean girding yourselves, biting down on a strong stick and getting past the convulsions associated with getting rid of some victimless crimes and not forcing people to live how you want them to. You all held your nose to vote for the liberal, big government, anti-gun, pro-abortion architect of obamacare last week. This should be easy by comparison.
Say what you will about Ron Paul, but he doubled his supporters since 2008. How well did the GOP do in increasing their numbers during that time? It sure wasn't his charismatic oratory that did that. The message of freedom is very popular. Kinda sells itself.
Hence, precisely the need to go back to what has been demonstrably proven to actually, you know, WORK (2010 Tea Party-driven election, rebuilding the CINO-abused Reagan Coalition of the '80s, etc.); and not continue to follow the GOP-e's suicidal piss-on-the-base-while-energetically-fellating-disaffected-democrats electoral Bataan Death March, yes. My point, exactly. ;)
For too many, the traditional conservative message is alien to them. Nothing in their life experience enables them to relate to it. They aren't necessarily hostile to it, they just can't relate to it.
Missionaries understand this and conservatives need to adopt a more missionary style of going into areas where the people have no experience with conservatism and begin helping lead them out of a life of dependency.
Any presidential candidate is going to try to woo independent or swing voters. Maybe one candidate would be able to bring out more "base" voters than another, but that's usually not enough to win presidential elections.
I'm not sure what your getting at towards the end, but the "abused Reagan Coalition of the '80s" was built by -- I'll just skip your obscenities and say "wooing" here -- "disaffected-democrats." That's why there was so much talk of "Reagan Democrats" back then.
The problem is that Democrats who might be disaffected have changed and winning them over isn't as easy as it once was. A lot of the old Republican base is gone as well.
The country has changed since Reagan. Not as many people have the values that elected Reagan.
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Youre right about that ..
the baby killing same sex marriage Liberal Willard would not have got as far as he did in Reagans day...
He would never have got to be the GOPe nominee...
the Conservatives in Reagans day would have shut out the son of George Romney, the arch enemy of Ronald Reagan...
True but I don't see any viable alternative to Romney. Using your pet food analogy, pets accustomed to say canned food will resist dry food... until they get hungry enough at which point they will eat it.
This past election is similar in that we may have wanted a better candidate but there really wasn't one. Unlike the dog staring at a dish of dry food he really doesn't want but will never-the-less eventually eat, some voters looked at the candidates, didn't want either and stayed at home.
That’s for damn sure.
Col Allen West; "I don't want to see America become like Zimbabwe where people dont trust their electoral process. If we cannot trust the integrity of the voting system then we are no longer a free republic".
Col West has opened the door.
We must fight election fraud.
It falls on We the People.
Silence is consent
Theres overwhelming evidence of fraud.- Here
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SARAH PALIN speaks out on Twitter about massive Obama machine voter fraud:
>Sarah Palin News @SarahPalinLinks Between suppression of the military vote and voter fraud, Obama stole another election. http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46302 DEMAND A RECOUNT! #VoterFraud
>Sarah Palin News @SarahPalinLinks People need to stop pointing fingers within the GOP and investigate the Dems' massive voter fraud and suppression of the military vote.
MITT ROMNEY TWEETS ABOUT ELECTION FRAUD:
>MITT ROMNEY in 2012! @PlanetRomney #tcot The Competent Conservative: Elections Have Not Yet Been Certified, Heres What You Can Do:
>> These electi... http://bit.ly/Zzam8Y
Excerpt from Mitt Romney's reference:
These elections are NOT certified yet. The only way to get this investigated, much less recounted or overturned, is through the Secretary of State of each of the five key states: Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. EVEN IF YOU ARE IN ANOTHER STATE you can help. But it wont do any good to dilute our effort to challenge California or Michigan or other states. Until a major group gets involved to do more, here is the plan: Contact the Secretary of State of the state in question. See contact information below...
Read the rest- Here
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The website,'Barack Obama Vote Fraud 2012' is keeping a running account of cases of voter fraud and what to do about it:
(Astonishing!) > Visit the site- Here
Sign this petition- Here
Another website:
Is There Enough Evidence of Voter Fraud To Merit a Recount? If you wish to add your voice, click here and sign the petition for a recount Here-
< Hannity and Col Allan West slam voter fraud Nov 12- Here
Photo of SOMALIANS brought to Ohio voting stations by the busload, 95% of whom did not speak English, and told to vote for Obama, straight Dem ticket- Here
Must watch videos!
VIDEO-- Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting- Here
VIDEO- Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers- Here
VIDEO- MICHAEL SAVAGE: How Obama fixed the 2012 election- Here
VIDEO- Massive voter fraud discovered in April- Here
VIDEO- Whistle blower speaks out about voter fraud- Here
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We can not wait for 2014 and 2016 to regroup and figure out new strategies. By then it will be too late. The Marxist/Muslim usurper will have completed his planned distruction of America. That's what people fail to understand.
We must act NOW.
Start with the election. If we let the Rats get away with this massive voter fraud, we're no better than a bananna republic.
We must keep digging and pounding him every day, in every way we can- phony birth certificate, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, his hidden life, records....
We are FReepers. We must fight!
Those who shrug and accept this atrocity without a fight are not worthy to be called Freepers!
Join us!! See thread, 'BARACK OBAMA FRAUD 2012- (MUST READ- MUST GO VIRAL!)' thread- Here
Granted the GOP is shrinking at the moment, but Romney did not help things by making it all about him.
That said, now we need to pay attention.
Bigtime. The GOP has been selling out. To every foreign country, and every foreign leader.
It is time for the GOP to get more patriotic, and more American than anyone else.
Obama will be a good competition for this, because the GOP can win this...
Will take an adjustment though.
How about it? :)
Well, when the fraud flips a Romney vote to an Obamanoid vote, it is not hard to see why Mitt Romney didn’t get enough votes to win. Obama didn’t get enough actual honest votes to win. But his team cheats professionally. Have to with an affirmative action hire who has shown he is not capable of doing the job. It’s the classic free ride/ignore the obvious to avoid admission of managerial failure in promoting on race or sexual orientation instead of merit syndrome writ large.
This is the best piece I have seen written about the election. It mirrors what I have written here at FR and conversations I have had with friends and family. The deluded and the eternal optimists will disagree with certain of his points but I think his analysis is absolutely correct.
He is also a very good writer conveying his thoughts in a more cogent manner than most while not mincing words at all.
Impressive.
Seriously. I mean it. Solemn pinky swear.
It's simply a straightforward, logistical matter of making those stinking, worthless dogs eat the @#$%ing dog food we deign to jam down their ungrateful neck holes, is all.
I'll just sit here, in this nice shady spot, and watch. You've obviously got this whole thing covered.
I see no possible way this cunning master plan can conceivably go wrong, a third consecutive time. Truly.
Baseline: a genuine conservative -- gifted with the incredible bounty of a six-year head start, campaign-wise, AND several hundred million or so in loose sofa change -- might conceivably accept some meager portion of the blame unto himself, for being wholly incapable of closing the sale against a sitting president responsible for real unemployment whipsawing somewhere between 18% and 22%, depending...
... and then, of course, there's Mitt Romney. And his apologists.
Doubtless a third consecutive four-year span wandering about the political wilderness will be necessary, before the simplest of all lessons (i.e., Stop Hitting Yourself) is adequately received and internalized. Carry on, then.
Note to Romney/Ryan: Here are a small sampling of the REAL reasons that yall lost:
Never questioned Obamas place of birth;
Never questioned Obamas reasons for sealing his personal documents and school records;
Never Campaigned from the end of the Primary until people started early voting;
Never allowed The Father of the Tea Party to be involved in yalls GOP-Elite Campaign;
Yall listened to yalls sorry Harvard top campaign advisers;
Ignored Moderator Bob Scheiffer when he delivered the election to Romney on a silver platter with his question to him about Benghazi as the first question in the third debate;
Romney, as the Father of Socialist Romneycare ran against the Father of Communist Obamacare.
Yall NEVER ONCE went for the coup de grace;
Every time that yall got ahead, yall relaxed and changed course;
Yall kept yalls advisors that had done a perfect job of designing a campaign to LOSE AT ALL COSTS.
Yall are just another pair of loser RINOs.
Dont run in 2016 unless you understand all of the above, as we damn sure wont forget ANY of yalls RINO blunders!
DUH! Im surprised that yall received as many votes as yall did.
BTW, the only good thing that came out of yalls Primary and General Campaigns was HOW NOT TO RUN A CAMPAIGN!
Shhhhhhhhhh. You’ll wake them. ;)
Romney lacked fire in the belly. I seriously doubt that he wanted to be President.
Tone of voice, pretty-boy smile, body language, choice of softball words, lack of follow-through on key issues such as the Benghazi Murders, etc., all indicated to me that he had better things to do with HIS precious time than to spend it running for President of the United States of America.
It is time for us to shun the typical RINO/GOP-Elite Campaigns Method of LOSE AT ALL COSTS.
Whisper softly and then sit down should be the motto of the Dole-McCain-Romney Choose to lose Campaigns.
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