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To: The Sons of Liberty

I don’t think that there is any legal provision for states to secede. There are constitutional processes to admit new states, but none that I am aware of to allow states to leave.

If a state declared its independence from Obama’s rule, what would happen? That is uncharted territory.


8 posted on 11/14/2012 1:16:33 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego ('s)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
If a state declared its independence from Obama’s rule, what would happen? That is uncharted territory.

Without being too flippant, wasn't this decided in 1861-65, where the answer was that the side with the largest army got to make the succession rules?

15 posted on 11/14/2012 1:18:53 PM PST by JackOfVA
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To: Dilbert San Diego
There are constitutional processes to admit new states, but none that I am aware of to allow states to leave.

Well in that case:

Amendment 10 - Powers of the States and People

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

If a state declared its independence from Obama’s rule, what would happen? That is uncharted territory.

Didn't Santayana say "Those who do not remember Lincoln are condemned to repeat him" ... or something like that?

19 posted on 11/14/2012 1:21:49 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The unspoken fact is whole secession question seems to have arisen after 0bama stole the election. If he were removed, then would the secession movement be stopped? Also, if a state secedes, certainly 0bamascare is null and void and is the state no longer obligated for it’s share of the $16 Trillion debt?.


37 posted on 11/14/2012 1:27:38 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Remember the Heroic SEALs of Benghazi and DEMAND a Full Accounting!!!!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

As I said, no one believes the Leviathan Moocher government will say have it your way and good luck to you.

It will take a precipitating catastrophic event.
like a financial collapse as some pretty smart money guys are saying is looming over the horizon.

When the USSR collapsed in the early 90s, its vassal states inside and outside of it declared their independence and the Kremlin was powerless to prevent it.


50 posted on 11/14/2012 1:33:38 PM PST by TheWryFederalist
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To: Dilbert San Diego

http://www.texassecede.com/faq.htm


74 posted on 11/14/2012 2:23:00 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I think the Civil War pretty much charted this territory.


87 posted on 11/14/2012 2:50:43 PM PST by cydcharisse (`)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“If a state declared its independence from Obama’s rule, what would happen? That is uncharted territory.”:

No, it’s not. The National Weather Service has bought 1.2 billion rounds of cop killer bullets. Any state that tries to secede will be attacked by federal weather forecasters who will fart bullets from their arses and kill anyone within 500 yards.


109 posted on 11/14/2012 4:46:23 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“If a state declared its independence from Obama’s rule, what would happen? That is uncharted territory.”

Not really. We have fought two wars over the issue:

The American revolution was fought over this issue. America took the stance then that secession was a right—”When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary to sever the bonds that unite two people . . . “ (paraphrasing)

Then, in 1860, America’s bloodiest war was fought over precisely this issue. In that war, The United States took the position that secession was treason.

Actual secession would bring about another civil war.


117 posted on 11/14/2012 11:25:29 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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