As I said, no one believes the Leviathan Moocher government will say have it your way and good luck to you.
It will take a precipitating catastrophic event.
like a financial collapse as some pretty smart money guys are saying is looming over the horizon.
When the USSR collapsed in the early 90s, its vassal states inside and outside of it declared their independence and the Kremlin was powerless to prevent it.
That is more than likely what will happen in our case. There won't have to be any (or much) shooting, and the Feds won't be able to do anything about it. And the required financial collapse is just around the corner. We better start thinking now about how to take advantage of it.
The really sad thing is that I think Obama would be proud to oversee the break up of the United States.
Just the same, it would be great to separate from the mongo moocher democrat states, encourage our moochers to immigrate to those states, then seal off the borders between them and us.
Give them a couple of years of rioting and “self educating” and starvation, then invite them back in under strict conditions.