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5 Reasons Amnesty Would Be Political Suicide For The Republican Party
Townhall ^ | 11/13/2012 | John Hawkins

Posted on 11/13/2012 7:46:38 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

They are all poor and will be associated with wanting to elect the santa clause party.


41 posted on 11/13/2012 11:10:12 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: mosesdapoet; moehoward; stephenjohnbanker; SeekAndFind; goldstategop; kabar; montag813; ...
Romney garnered thirteen percent less among self-identified non-college graduates who were Hispanic than college graduates in this election.

More than half of the people who'll be given amnesty don't have a high school diploma-let alone a bachelor's degree.

Makes perfect political sense, doesn't it?

The Stupid Party

42 posted on 11/13/2012 11:13:09 AM PST by OddLane
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To: OddLane

Thanks for the link.


43 posted on 11/13/2012 11:25:19 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: nevergore

I grew up in southern California and heard Spanish spoken everywhere. One of my dearest friends was born in Mexico and naturalized as a U.S.citizen. She was extraordinary in that she did not resent gringoes.

You are correct when you say that the Hispanic vote isn’t monolithic. But the illegal alien numbers are very large now, as is the numbers of Marxist activists pushing the issue of amnesty.

I stand with the rule of law. This isn’t about race or ethnicity. Without it, we will be a totally lawless land. We’re already trending that direction, and quickly.


44 posted on 11/13/2012 11:28:45 AM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Before amnesty, illegals were easy to spot, literally from a block away, amnesty made that impossible because illegals and those who still appeared as illegal but were under amnesty looked the same.

Younger freepers or those not from border states probably won’t understand that.


45 posted on 11/13/2012 11:46:06 AM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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To: nevergore

“The author is full of BS.”

It’s you, not the author, that has the excrement problem.


46 posted on 11/13/2012 11:50:06 AM PST by Pelham (America, 1775-2012)
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To: SeekAndFind
5 Reasons Amnesty Would Be Political Suicide For The Republican Party

5 Reasons??!!??

I can think of 30,000,000 reasons.
How many Conservatives are there who believe in the Constitution and the rule of law?

Repeal immigration laws or enforce them.
It's not rocket science.

47 posted on 11/13/2012 11:58:09 AM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: Theodore R.; sand88; Cheerio; kabar

And so does the myth that a Republican can win a general election....Each year the number goes down...1.8M this year...

The reason that the Republicans are not garnering any wins is because we have not proferred a true conservative candidate since Reagan....

In the absence of leadership and clearly defined values, people will vote for who gives them the most....

When you clearly articulate conservative values and hope for the future, for yourself and your childrens, people will vote for you.....That’s all demographics.....

If you do not believe that basic tenent, then you might as go register as a Democrat right now and get what you can get from the gubermint.....


48 posted on 11/13/2012 12:03:55 PM PST by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: donna; Wonder Warthog

It would take an activist judge 10 minutes to declare Warthog’s idea a violation of the Constitution. It wouldn’t matter if it wasn’t, it would get scrapped like Prop 187 was in California.

And before the propaganda crowd shows up with their usual misinformation, Judge Pfaelzer’s one-woman scrapping of Prop 187 was never reviewed by an Appeals Court. She colluded with Gov Gray Davis to have her decision to overturn the vote of 60% of the California voters be accepted without appeal, and the worthless RINO Arnold went along with that foul decision.


49 posted on 11/13/2012 12:05:04 PM PST by Pelham (America, 1775-2012)
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To: nevergore
Reagan (the greatest conservative president ever!) had an amnesty program.
He unfortunately trusted Congress that they would couple it with border control, and got screwed...

So we should try it again?

Never again.
Tax increases now?
Serious, significant spending reductions NOW.

If they both don't apply simultaneously, it's not a compromise. It's capitulation. Compromises MUST track.

Otherwise I'm not even discussing it.

50 posted on 11/13/2012 12:08:02 PM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

No problem.


51 posted on 11/13/2012 12:10:10 PM PST by OddLane
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To: publius911

NEVER, NEVER trust the promise of a Demoncrat or RINO.....


52 posted on 11/13/2012 12:17:17 PM PST by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: Pelham
The judiciary is a huge problem.

Has been since Plyler vs. Doe was decided.

Blackmun and Brennan did more damage to this country than almost anyone else in the past four decades.

53 posted on 11/13/2012 12:23:30 PM PST by OddLane
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To: SeekAndFind

How is the GOP and U.S. conservatism not finished, after all of these pro-leftist issues pass?


54 posted on 11/13/2012 12:28:30 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: OddLane

Add to which the majority of college grads these days have been firmly indoctrinated with either the white guilt, or the it’s whitey’s fault, mantra, depending....


55 posted on 11/13/2012 12:59:26 PM PST by moehoward
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To: nevergore

Problem is, we have people like you who can’t tell the difference between Conservative values and Tribal values.

Yes, the invading barbarians may be very careful with their resources, but they’re more than willing to grab everything they can from their victims. Same thing with women; they might take care their own, but the outsider’s women are just there for taking...

Some illegal aliens may have conservative values; most of them are tribal and consider outsiders like you and me to be potential victims.


56 posted on 11/13/2012 1:07:10 PM PST by Little Ray (I have VOTED AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Amnesty for illegals(most of whom are Latinos and Mexicans who overwhelmingly vote for the most extremist left wing candidates) is the dumbest idea I ever heard of..unless you are a far left Democratic Party fanatic. It's against the interest of most Americans, even moderate Democrats.
57 posted on 11/13/2012 1:15:32 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

Looks hopeless to me. We cannot help ourselves with pushing amnesty. Even the modest effort Arizona made for protection was struck down by the SC (we should have known right then Roberts was going to stab us in the back). We cannot help ourselves giving more candy. These people will eventually turn on each other but we will be long gone…Unless a few states really do sussed, but even at that most of us are “hooked” because if Social Security etc. so it looks dim indeed.


58 posted on 11/13/2012 2:02:24 PM PST by gibsonguy
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To: donna
"LOL, do you promise, no vote? Sort of a slave labor force?"

Nothing "slave labor" about it. They can always leave. Slave labor doesn't have that choice.

"What do you think happens to a nation with millions of permanent foreigners who have no voting power to control their own lives?"

They have complete control over their own lives.....just nobody else's. Your comment is totally lacking in logic.

59 posted on 11/13/2012 3:16:47 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: moehoward
"It's called 'future SCOTUS fodder'. Just like DOMA is doomed, so will be any attempt at a 'separate but equal' fix to Illegals."

Sorry, not buying it.

60 posted on 11/13/2012 3:19:00 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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