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Newt Gingrich: Source Tells Me Petraeus Never Blamed Benghazi Attack On Video
Mediaite ^ | November 13, 2012 | Alex Alvarez

Posted on 11/13/2012 5:31:46 AM PST by maggief

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich stopped by Fox & Friends Tuesday morning to promote his new book, but was first asked to share his thoughts on the ever-widening scandal surrounding General David Petraeus and his biographer, Paula Broadwell.

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Host Steve Doocy asked Gingrich what he made “of the fact that the with mainstream media has followed the White House’s lead” on the story, maintaining that the President did not know about Petraeus’ situation until after the election.

Gingrich said this was the first time he’s realized that “this has been going on for months,” later adding that he’d been told “by people in the room” that Petraeus had in fact been “the one guy” who said the Benghazi attack was an act of terrorism and not a protest to a video.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: benghazi; gingrich; libya; navyseals; petraeus; threatmatrix; threatmatrixbenghazi
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1 posted on 11/13/2012 5:31:50 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief
@CharlieDaniels I talked to somebody last night who has been in touch with the general and he says that things aren't what they seem..
2 posted on 11/13/2012 5:35:52 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (There goes the dominoes...)
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To: maggief

Ummmm. Other people ‘in the room’ said the complete opposite.


3 posted on 11/13/2012 5:37:25 AM PST by MestaMachine (TREASON!!!!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I think Charlie is onto something.

That said, it is hilarious that we hear this from Charlie Daniels.

4 posted on 11/13/2012 5:38:49 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: maggief
he’d been told “by people in the room” that Petraeus had in fact been “the one guy” who said the Benghazi attack was an act of terrorism and not a protest to a video.

Why beleive "people in the room" when you can watch him in the video of the last Bengazi hearing say that it was because of some video that nobody watched. Newt needs to find another room to hang out in.

5 posted on 11/13/2012 5:39:08 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: RoosterRedux

Charlie Daniels is a Great American. :)


6 posted on 11/13/2012 5:40:57 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (There goes the dominoes...)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

It never is. Bad script for a bad movie. I think Al Pacino starred in the original.


7 posted on 11/13/2012 5:42:40 AM PST by MestaMachine (TREASON!!!!)
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To: MestaMachine

Do you have the names of the guys that were in charge of ORCA? Do you have the name of the company that wrote the software?


8 posted on 11/13/2012 5:44:17 AM PST by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: maggief

True, That was Clapper, his boss.


9 posted on 11/13/2012 5:45:10 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: MestaMachine

I’m still holding out a bit of hope for Petraeus. Somehow I missed this piece of news.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/13/us/petraeus-allen-investigation/
CNN has confirmed that Petraeus recently traveled to Libya to meet the CIA station chief to discuss the attack.


10 posted on 11/13/2012 5:46:37 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

Nothing makes sense. It is very difficult to process ANY of this, beginning on September 11,2012 through the election results to this aftermath with Petraeus, Broadwell and so on- NOTHING makes sense.

It’s tempting to knee-jerk and react to it all with simple explanations. I would be comforted if only I could FIND a simple explanation. So far- all I see is a web of lies that has effectively covered whatever the truth may be.

We seem to be sitting on the edge of something...hovering near it, maybe getting a glimpse of light only to have it obscured by the next lie.

One thing DOES seem clear- we have no cause to trust our government. Any of it- on the right or the left.


11 posted on 11/13/2012 5:51:23 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: maggief

Anyone else remember that Spanish election with the Madrid Bombing right before. The Anti-American Socialists won because the sitting Spanish Government pointed fingers in the wrong direction as a politically opportunistic move. Iirc they blamed the Basque Separatists when it was really Al Qaeda. The fact that they got called out for being so brazen cost them the election.

Looks like the same thing here, except 1.) since that was local an this (Libya) is on the other side of the planet there’s an emotional insulation factor here ( most people really don’t care) and 2.) rather than challenging the governments narrative (as happened in Spain with a Socialist media going after a more conservative government), the US MSM went along with the Administrations narrative.

The big lesson here is that in both cases the local news media was completely in bed with one of the political parties ... and were able to successfully drive the overall narrative.


12 posted on 11/13/2012 5:56:26 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: SE Mom; Protect the Bill of Rights; penelopesire; hoosiermama; onyx; LucyT

Here is an excerpt of the Broadwell transcript of her speech on 10/26... AFTER her interview with the FBI, which according to the NYT was the week of 10/21. Was she sending a message?

Paula Broadwell University of Denver Remarks on Libya’s Attack [TRANSCRIPT]:

Audience Member: Thanks for taking my question.General Petraeus in his new role has a difficult situation now in the center of the situation in Benghazi. Do you have any comment?

Broadwell: Well just to create some context for those in the room. As you know the Ambassador in Benghazi was killed along with a couple of security agents who happened to be CIA security paramilitary forces, that just came out today in Fox News. But the challenge has been the fog of war. And the greater challenge is that it is political hunting season. So this whole thing has been turning into a very political sort of arena if you will.

But the facts that came out today were that the ground forces there at the CIA annex, which is different from the consulate, were requesting reinforcements. They were requesting the it’s called the C-in-C’s In Extremis Force, a group of Delta Force operators, our very, most talented guys we have in the military. They could have come and reinforce the consulate and the CIA annex that were under attack.

Now, I don’t know if a lot of you heard this, but the CIA annex had actually, um, had taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner and they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to try to get these prisoners back. So that’s still being vetted. The challenging thing for General Petraeus is that in his new position, he’s not allowed to communicate with the press. So he’s known all of this. Thye had correspondance with the CIA station chief in Libya within 24 hours they kind of knew what was happening. But if you remember at the time, the Muslim video, the Mohammad video that came out, the demonstrations that were going on in Cairo, there were demonstrations in 22 other countries around the world, tens of thousands of people and our government was kind of concert that this would become a nightmare for us.

So you can understand if you put yourself on his shoes, or Secretary Clinton’s shoes or the President’s shoes that we thought it was tied somehow to the demonstrations in Cairo. And it’s true that we have similar intelligence that shows the militia members in Libya were watching the demonstrations in Cairo and it did sort of galvanize their effort. So we’ll find out the facts soon enough as a former intel officer is frustrating to me because it reveals our sources and methods. I don’t think the public necessarily needs to know all of that. It is a tragedy that we lost and Ambassador and two other Government officials and something, there was a failure in the system because there was additional security requested. But is frustrating to see the sort of political aspect of what’s going on with this whole investigation.


13 posted on 11/13/2012 6:01:29 AM PST by maggief
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To: crosslink

Dan Centinello
centinello@mittromney.com


14 posted on 11/13/2012 6:02:01 AM PST by dontreadthis
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To: Dixie Yooper
Whatever statement Petreaus made to the press, he made "under orders" from Obama.

Same thing when he was in Afghanistan.

Remember, McCrystal (Afghanistan) was taken out of the picture because he said something negative about Obama.

15 posted on 11/13/2012 6:03:15 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: maggief
I am beginning to wonder if the greatest military tactician of recent generations isn't running an operation against 0bama. Maybe General Petraeus realized that the reason 0bama got away with Fast and Furious was that there was no SEX involved. So this may be a way to get to 0bama’s murder from the sky and gun running to terrorists.
16 posted on 11/13/2012 6:05:35 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: crosslink

Orca had been conceived by two men—Romney’s Director of Voter Contact Dan Centinello and the campaign’s Political Director Rich Beeson.

To build Orca, the Romney campaign turned to Microsoft and an unnamed application consulting firm.

Still do not know the consulting firm.


17 posted on 11/13/2012 6:06:20 AM PST by MestaMachine (TREASON!!!!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I concur.


18 posted on 11/13/2012 6:10:41 AM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: maggief

I think Soetoro wants more military blood to support sequestration.


19 posted on 11/13/2012 6:14:43 AM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: maggief

Who did Petraeus vote for this time around?


20 posted on 11/13/2012 6:16:26 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: maggief

The last paragraph tells me about the mindset of Broadwell. She seems to be trying to cover for O, Clinton, Susan Rice and P4 all at once.

Very disturbing as I was beginning to think Broadwell (aside from her personal moral failings) might be one of the good guys.


21 posted on 11/13/2012 6:17:54 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: maggief

So, did that Broadwell woman vote for Zer0 or not?


22 posted on 11/13/2012 6:19:55 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: SE Mom

I wonder how Petraeus could voluntarily be part of the 0 regime and be any where to the right of a leftist RINO.


23 posted on 11/13/2012 6:22:39 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: maggief
"The challenging thing for General Petraeus is that in his new position, he’s not allowed to communicate with the press. So he’s known all of this."

...interesting

24 posted on 11/13/2012 6:28:57 AM PST by lucyblue
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To: SE Mom
But is frustrating to see the sort of political aspect of what’s going on with this whole investigation.

This could be viewed several ways. The WH was the one who really politicized events beginning with the coordinated attack with the MSM on Romney.

25 posted on 11/13/2012 6:31:28 AM PST by kabar
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To: maggief
AFTER her interview with the FBI, which according to the NYT was the week of 10/21. Was she sending a message?

She just might turn out to be the real Patriot in this saga.

26 posted on 11/13/2012 6:32:17 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: crosslink
Do you have the names of the guys that were in charge of ORCA?

If I were a conspiracy theorist, I would wonder why ORCA was used when it was NEVER tested and in fact I read that it could not be tested, but only used on election day. It sounds ripe for sabotage. and

Perhaps as Head of the CIA Petraeus got wind of vote fraud schemes in the swing states. or

Perhaps the vote fraud schemes and voting macine rigging were carried out by the CIA on orders from 0bama, or to avoid the threatened riots?

27 posted on 11/13/2012 6:32:56 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Never Underestimate the Power of Evil or Evil Doers)
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To: SE Mom

I kind of look at it as wrapping a bomb in a baby blanket.


28 posted on 11/13/2012 6:39:17 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: G Larry
-- True, That was Clapper, his boss. --

I think all we have is misinformation.

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Yet a congressional source told Fox News that CIA Director David Petraeus, during a briefing with members of the House Intelligence Committee three days after the attack, espoused the view that Benghazi was an out-of-control demonstration prompted by the YouTube video.

US officials knew Libya attack was terrorism within 24 hours, sources confirm - FoxNews, September 27, 2012

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But the next day, Sept 14, Petraeus went to Capital Hill and described the attack as something befitting a flash mob, "where the militants showed up spontaneously with RPGs."

It was not premeditated (according to Petraeus).

As the "spontaneous attack" narrative fell apart in the days after Petraeus pushed it, lawmakers expressed anger, frustration, and disappointment that Petraeus did not avail himself of the very intelligence that suggested this was an Al Qaeda attack to begin with.

Petraeus: Benghazi Was Spontaneous Attack - Breitbart, October 29, 2012

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Now, with so many of the adminstration's bald lies about Benghazi being exposed, PJ Tatler's Bryan Preston is asking not whether Petraeus was politicizing the intell, but whether he is "among the sources of the Benghazi deception."

Benghazi Burns and Petraeus Goes to Princeton? - Diana west, October 12, 2012

Somebody is trying to rehabilitate Petraeus, and Gingrich is being used to that end.
29 posted on 11/13/2012 6:42:11 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Paladin2
-- Who did Petraeus vote for this time around? --

I would guess that he voted for Obama. Not necessarily because he thinks Obama is a great leader, but because he thinks the tenor and direction of national policy, as implemented by the CIA and other agencies, would be better under Obama than under Romney.

This piece paints a different picture than what I would expect:

Knowing Petraeus' sensitivities to the faux-stimulus of what he has called in Senate testimony "Arab anger," such politicization, or, perhaps better, such Arabizing of the intelligence would likely come naturally to him. No stranger to politicking, Petraeus as CENTCOM commander engaged in what was described as an "unprecedented" political push in early 2010 on behalf of Islam's Israel-centered demonology in order to enhance Americas's military standing in Iraq and Afghanistan. This dovetailed neatly with his perhaps surprising take on Gitmo -- close it, its "existence has been used by the enemy against us" -- and his really shocking take on Hezbollah: "Hezbollah's justifications for existence will become void," Petraeus told the Al Hayat as reported in the Lebanese Daily Star, "if the Palestinian cause is resolved." Given this Arabist sensibility (and don't forget one of his thesis directors at Princeton was Stephen Walt of Walt & Mearsheimer), it's no stretch to imagine the man taking up cry of Islamic video-rage as well.

Benghazi Burns and Petraeus Goes to Princeton? - Diana West, October 12, 2012

I'd cast Diana West as an opponent of Petraeus, in any event, so take the above with a shaker of salt. If you click the link to find the blockquote, you'll find additional links. I read some of them, but haven't researched the material independently.

My gut tells me Petraeus is a skunk in the woodpile. Not that the woodpile isn't infested with skunks, like Hillary! and her sidekick Huma; Panetta; and of course Obama.

30 posted on 11/13/2012 6:52:21 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: maggief; MestaMachine
from the article: "Gingrich said... that he’d been told “by people in the room” that Petraeus had in fact been “the one guy” who said the Benghazi attack was an act of terrorism and not a protest to a video."

This is not accepted as true at Fox News.
Their major focus is: how did Petraeus claim it was a protest over a video, as in Egypt, when they already knew Benghazi was an organized terrorist attack?

Fox has never suggested that Petraeus did not blame the video.

31 posted on 11/13/2012 6:56:14 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

I think you are right about MSM burying Broadwell’s 10/26 DU speech.

Did the NYT report it? That’s a big clue.


32 posted on 11/13/2012 6:57:55 AM PST by maggief
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To: BroJoeK

I know. Gingrich said it and for the life of me, I don’t know why. Then again, I don’t know a lot of things.


33 posted on 11/13/2012 7:00:28 AM PST by MestaMachine (TREASON!!!!)
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To: maggief
Could the women involved in this situation be operatives of the left, who lured Petraeus into compromising situations so that Obama could dump him down the road if he needed to?
34 posted on 11/13/2012 7:15:13 AM PST by utahagen
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To: Cboldt
Given that Holly Petraeus and Fauxcahontas are joined at the hip/lip, and that Petraeus is an enthusiastic Islamic Nation builder, and that he voluntarily joined the Regime, the simplest explanation is that he is a 'rat (a Stealth 'rat perhaps, but a 'rat none the less).

Thanks for the link.

35 posted on 11/13/2012 7:23:10 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: MestaMachine

Orca had been conceived by two men—Romney’s Director of Voter Contact Dan Centinello and the campaign’s Political Director Rich Beeson

Thanks, I am on it. I will see what I can find. Do you know what platform this was on? Was it office 360? Trying to narrow where to look at Microsoft.


36 posted on 11/13/2012 8:35:35 AM PST by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: maggief

I wasn’t there at Benghazi, but that event looks like a “Raid” and not an “Attack”. Basically, an attack is where you go in to take control of a piece of ground and retain it. Basically, a raid is where you go in and fight and then leave. The thugs in Libya didn’t seize and hold either location. Thus, it was a raid. They fought and left. Petraeus went to Ranger School. They learn all about raids at that school. Petraeus would have looked at Benghazi and asked himself, “Attack or raid?”. He would have seen the thugs withdraw and known, without anyone telling him, that this was a military raid. His next questions would have been, “What kind of raid?” and “Why?”.


37 posted on 11/13/2012 9:11:26 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Sacajaweau
Remember, McCrystal (Afghanistan) was taken out of the picture because he said something negative about Obama.

Timing is everything. This would have been a much better day for McChrystal to reminisce to the press about his first meeting with The Faultless One.

38 posted on 11/13/2012 9:32:54 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: maggief; MestaMachine

I have been looking, it appears they found the choke point was the server in Boston that all phones had to login to and jammed it. They then found a way to have the the credentials changed for all the people in the swing states and locked out the reset. I am trying to find out who the UNNAMED consultant is that worked with Microsoft to design the program. NOTHING OUT THERE.
One of the articles is from a web designer who was a volunteer. and he is shocked they would have used this type of design as it was crazy to think it would.

The app was web-based, not an actual mobile app, confusing some volunteers. It used an HTTPS connection and volunteers who tried to reach it by an HTTP URL weren’t automatically redirected. Landing on a blank page, many users took it as a sign the system was down
Denial of service at that ip would cause this, In fact that is what comcast reported that day in one of the articles. Where did that come form? I would love to have the ip number


39 posted on 11/13/2012 9:35:02 AM PST by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: maggief; MestaMachine

WOW, these guys could help in many ways. Get you a password then help jam the ORCA system. WOW.

A Yahoo email account belonging to former CIA Director David Petraeus’ mistress may have been compromised by the group Anonymous.

The personal email account, which other sources confirmed belongs to the writer and veteran at the heart of this week’s Washington scandal, was revealed in the decentralized online group’s publication of millions of email accounts of customers of the commercial intelligence company STRATFOR.

The email appears on a listing of accounts obtained by the group after they hacked and stole credit cards from the company. Anonymous also obtained email logins to STRATFOR’s website — which potentially could have been used by Paula Broadwell for email or other secure sites — as well as correspondence.

It is not clear what, if any, information belonging to Broadwell may have been obtained by the Internet-based group, whose members style themselves “hacktivists” but whom authorities have pursued on a variety of charges.

Broadwell was reportedly under investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation for allegedly trying to obtain access to the retired general’s classified emails.

Broadwell’s account, a derivation of her name, was also tweeted by the author and has been posted alongside a posting advertising that she was looking to interview high ranking women in the military. A Washington, D.C. political operative also confirmed that he had corresponded with Broadwell on that account


40 posted on 11/13/2012 9:46:58 AM PST by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: Dixie Yooper

I always thought putting Petreaus in Afghanistan was strange and pulling him out was even stranger. My best guess is that Broadwell had already nailed Petreaus...just another notch for her I’m sure. She’s trash.


41 posted on 11/13/2012 10:27:36 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Dixie Yooper
Why beleive "people in the room" when you can watch him in the video of the last Bengazi hearing say that it was because of some video that nobody watched.

You've seen a tape of Petraeus' testimony? That sounds odd. Link?

42 posted on 11/13/2012 10:31:19 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: utahagen
I'll second that thought. I labeled Goodwell as a "notch" girl. Bet she's got a big, bad history....

Wonder who she nailed at West Point.

43 posted on 11/13/2012 10:32:40 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
She just might turn out to be the real Patriot in this saga.

What makes you think that?

44 posted on 11/13/2012 10:37:45 AM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: Sacajaweau

Broadwell (not Goodwell) was homecoming queen, valedictorian, and an all-state basketball player. So she had some accomplishments outside the bedroom also. It’s easy to see why she would be a good “fit” in the military....


45 posted on 11/13/2012 10:38:35 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's bankruptcy: 2016)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
She just might turn out to be the real Patriot in this saga.

What makes you think that?

46 posted on 11/13/2012 10:41:14 AM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes

oopps!!


47 posted on 11/13/2012 10:42:10 AM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: MestaMachine

“the Romney campaign turned to Microsoft”

Really? Microsoft? Gates is an Obama lover and supporter. Why would they go to Microsoft and risk sabotage? Like leaving Dracula in charge of the Blood Bank.


48 posted on 11/13/2012 10:46:21 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: Cboldt
Petraeus: Benghazi Was Spontaneous Attack - Breitbart, October 29, 2012

I thought the hearing was behind closed doors and the testimony was classified. Anyway Brietbart doesn't offer an explanation how he got the supposed Petraeus quote. And the only named source I've seen who has claimed Petraeus has said this, is some Rat congressman from Maryland who attended the closed door hearing.

Somebody is trying to rehabilitate Petraeus, and Gingrich is being used to that end.

I can't come to that conclusion and I think it's most likely wrong.

49 posted on 11/13/2012 10:48:24 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: nascarnation
There's millions of girls with those credentials. WHY did she choose to go to West Point?

At this point, I'd say she's "unfit". She picked her "mark".

50 posted on 11/13/2012 11:03:16 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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