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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 11 November 2012
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 11 November 2012 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 11/11/2012 5:06:53 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



November 11th, 2012

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sens. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., Bob Corker, R-Tenn., and Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.; Reps. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., and Tom Price, R-Ga.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Sens. Chuck U. Schumer, D-N.Y., and Tom Coburn, R-Okla.; Rep.-elect Joaquin Castro, D-Texas.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): David Axelrod, adviser to President Barack Obama's re-election campaign; Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Sens. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., and Patty Murray, D-Wash.; Reps. Donna Edwards, D-Md., and Aaron Schock, R-Ill.

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., and Reps. Peter King, R-N.Y., and Cathy McMorris Rodgers, R-Wash.; Gov. Jerry Brown, D-Calif.; former Gov. Jon Huntsman, R-Utah; former Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez; Gary Bauer, president of American Values.


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To: chiller

Exactly that has always been my point. We can’t target an entire network there is too much spill over sponsor wise.
What we can do is target a small segment like news.
If we just concentrate on nbc news sponsors we can make them pay a price. Will it stop them? Maybe not right away but what it will do is any potential sponsor of nbc news will know that his ad money will be wasted compared to any other ad buy. That alone will matter.


121 posted on 11/11/2012 8:25:15 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: All

Did some of you watch Meet the Press???

Who sponsored it? What commercials did you see or are seeing this morning????

Let’s just start with these.


122 posted on 11/11/2012 8:27:12 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: chiller

Yes, I don’t like the sound of a boycott, but writing to sponsors feels like a boycott, doesn’t it?

If nobody watches NBCNews, ratings drop, no one sees their ads, sales for those products drop, sponsors stop advertising there. They’re not healthy now. More loss of ad revenue could kill ‘em.

I worked in media as well and know sponsor revenue is the key. Maybe you’re correct. It can’t hurt if sponsors know lots of us are disappointed by NBC News and are changing our news consumption preferences and not spending any time with them.


What I’m really addressing in the legality matter is a web site like FR somehow operating a formal boycott. It gets sticky.

As for the other thing, I remember when I was a Sunday mag features writer being bumped off several stories because they might have run afoul of advertisers. And that was back in the day when circulation actually contributed to margins. Today, it is ALL sponsor-driven for the lamers.

One of the stories related to cigarette smoking—at a time when we had tobacco company advertisers. How things have changed, eh.


123 posted on 11/11/2012 8:27:12 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: rodguy911
Truth is there are about 22% hardcore left wingers in the country. Everyone else is subject to our messages.

There may only be 22% hardcore leftwingers, but there appears to be another 29% who are unreliably prone to Bruce Springsteen and last minute, liberal media staged, blubber hugs.

We can't count on those folks for anything.

We need to target the conservative folks who didn't turn out this election.

124 posted on 11/11/2012 8:27:36 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: bray

Voting fraud was incredibly widespread. Its the same as making the drivebys pay a price. If the left knows they can keep on cheating in voting and there is no price to pay they will do so. We need to make them pay an enormous price for every place we find fraud and it was everywhere. From Ohio to Florida to Penn.


125 posted on 11/11/2012 8:28:35 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: bray
Every Repub state should demand voter ID. The vote should be one of the most important tasks of an American. One fake vote is too many.

I read on FR, that Romney won all states that has voter ID.

Maine's genius voters just repealed our law, kicked out the Republicans Statehouse and Senate...AND enacted "gay marriage" on the ballot.

126 posted on 11/11/2012 8:28:58 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Did anyone mention that not only did Alan West lose* but Alan Grayson got his job back?

I do not blame Romney. Let’s face it folks, the driveby media won this one. I’ve spent years on this thread pointing that out.

The real enemy hosts these shows we gather to watch.


Well stated.

Pro O voters don’t realize that he is “ classless warfare” cloaked in the false
illusion that he cares.

Live in Fla, voted for West ...... Grayson is the epitome of loud mouthed unprincipled “ Jerry Springer show” representation.

Unfortunately the non thinkers outnumber the thinkers and this is what we get.


127 posted on 11/11/2012 8:28:58 AM PST by patriotspride
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To: chiller

If nobody watches NBCNews, ratings drop, no one sees their ads, sales for those products drop, sponsors stop advertising there. They’re not healthy now. More loss of ad revenue could kill ‘em.


The other thing is, all these alphabet network news operations run at an enormous loss anyway. Staggering in some cases. They are propped up by the entertainment and sports programming departments.

In short, you only really get NBC’s attention if you organize a successful boycott of Sunday Night Football. THAT is what matters to the bottom line.


128 posted on 11/11/2012 8:30:17 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: Son House

That’s the beauty of targeting only the news operation there i will be only a few sponsors, maybe a dozen or so we have to deal with.I think it can work and am ready to go.


129 posted on 11/11/2012 8:31:00 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Regarding David Patreaus - it could have been worse; he could have ended up face-down in Fort Marcy Park. Very convenient scandal and the timing was perfect. Apparently the Obama admin thinks this will completely make the problem go away.

Chris Von Hollen on FNS; he is very happy to compromise on everything except the stuff he does not want to compromise on. And the media will let him slide on it. Chris Wallace is a perfect example of that today.

Laura Ingaram on FNS made one of the few intelligent statements today; the Republicans need to remain conservative and not compromise. On the other hand, bill Krystol was willing to give away the silverware and the family portraits in order to get some kind of bragging mights on another moral victory.

On the other hand, I forget who came up with this gem today; high gas prices are not as bad as you think, because a big part of the problem is the sinking value of the dollar. Sounds like a graduate of the Paul Krugman School of Economics. Either way, one of the dumbest things I have ever heard a grownup say out loud.

Finally; the fiscal cliff; everybody today acted like this just came up in the last few weeks. Actually, we went off the cliff a long time ago, but we just have not landed yet. If the 20=somethings think it is okay to spend 1 TRILLION dollars more every year than we bring in, eventually they will have to take over managing the debt and their response to it. God bless them, and bless their hearts.

130 posted on 11/11/2012 8:31:42 AM PST by Bernard ('He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else' - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Alas Babylon!; rodguy911
NBC News thread is up, AB. Got to start somewhere.

I commend your choices re: NBC. One emphasis I make is to concentrate on NBCNews, rather than dilute over the others, but a total rejection of NBC TV can't be bad.

Of course, now that the Tide has been beaten you may have no use for any TV. :>/

131 posted on 11/11/2012 8:33:08 AM PST by chiller (Do not consume any NBCNews;MTPTodayNightlyNewsMorningJoeMSNBCBrianWilliams)
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To: Cheerio

IMHO the Commies have won - Nikita Kruschev would be soooooooooo proud.


Yes. That is what has happened, Andropov’s red horizons program to take over the USA via massive influence ops, disinformation, propaganda, personality cult and subterfuge within has defeated the constitutional republic. It wasn’t even close.


132 posted on 11/11/2012 8:33:39 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: PaleoBob

I appreciate a lot of what you are saying but I don’t think the average Obama voter really cares that deeply about the specifics—even “war on women” stuff, or pays much attention to the lamestream media for that matter.
These people simply want their bread and circuses and trust the Demoviks to keep providing them. They don’t want to have to work for their stuff, or COMPETE for a comfortable place in society, etc.

The Russian population in the middle part of the Soviet era was dominated by people who understood they were “oppressed” but really didn’t care—as long as they didn’t have to work too hard to get out from under.

Even down to the bitter end the Gang of Eight old Bolshies knew they had at least 40 percent support and mainly from older people, when they sent tanks to take out Yeltsin and the Russian parliament.

America is well beyond the 50 percent mark at this point when it comes to the government-dependency formulation. The only way out of this is to somehow advance the collapse of the state.


And here we have the realization of “ fundamentally transform America”

Well state, agree with your analysis.


133 posted on 11/11/2012 8:35:17 AM PST by patriotspride
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Excellent post Rock. Its just like the DBM. If we don’t start extracting a price from those who would subvert democracy we are doomed to what we have now.


134 posted on 11/11/2012 8:35:17 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: FreeReign; Son House
I was going to get out of stocks. You think the market will perform ok?

My short answer to that is the market is going to do just exactly as it's told to do.

I remain to be convinced that the Fed hasn't been priming the pump in the stock market right along with the BLS' weekly ration of crap/Unemployment Report strictly to let the pimp media go HappyHappyJoyJoy about the "Recovery".

If Congress (or to be more correct, the few actual conservatives left there) gets at all fractious about the Debt Limit, raising taxes, or anything at all even faintly connected to the economy, all The 0's gotta do is tell the Fed to turn off the spigot long enough to dump the market a few hundred points and Boehner et al will fold up like a cheap suit in terror.

Plus that, the WH Mob might just decide that since the election's over, they can just keep all that cash for themselves/their friends, let the market go in the toilet on its own and have the pimp media blame Conservatives/The Hated Rich/Bush/Goat du jour anyway.

Only market I'm investing in right now is the BLACK one...

135 posted on 11/11/2012 8:37:43 AM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet
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To: Alas Babylon!

I will bring it up at a pubbie meeting I attend this Wednesday.I’m almost positive Gov. Scott will get to the bottom of it. He’s a great manager.


136 posted on 11/11/2012 8:39:01 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: bray

How does it work then how do you prove you are eligible to vote. In the UK we have to register with our local council each year each household get a letter listing those elidgible to vote and you either confirm or amend details and mail back to them. This year I was late doing this and they sent someone round to our house. Then before each election we get a card through the mail to take to the polling station. You do not need the card but it helps them find your name quickly in the register and you are handed a ballot paper.


137 posted on 11/11/2012 8:39:27 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: Alas Babylon!
The media and democrats won because they used ethnic, racial, and sexual identity politics against us.

If you accept the exit polls, Obama won the age groups 18-29 (60% to 37%) and 30-44 (52%-45%). They totaled 46% of the electorate. Romney won the age groups 45-64 (51%-47%) and the 65+ (56%-44%). They totaled 54% of the electorate. It is obvious that the Reps are losing the lower age groups. Why? First, these groups are increasing their minority percentages due to immigration and higher birth rates among minorities compared to non-Hipanic whites. By 2019 half of the children 18 and under will be minorities as defined by the USG. Hence, each year that goes by adds to the Dem electorate and subtracts from the Rep electorate as non-Hispanic whites die and are not replaced in their ranks at the lower age groups.

Immigrants and minorities grow old as well, but their percentage of the total population is constantly increasing. By 2042 half of the country will be minorities as defined by the USG. We are also an aging population. By 2030 one in five residents of this country will be 65 or older--twice what it is now. Whether immigrants and minorities will become more Rep as they grow older is problematic since one's political affiliation is more akin to religion than anything else. You are literally born into it.

The U.S. adds one international migrant (net) every 36 seconds. Immigrants account for one in 8 U.S. residents, the highest level in more than 90 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. In a decade, it will be one in 7, the highest it has been in our history. And by 2050, one in 5 residents of the U.S. will be foreign-born. It is not a stretch to say that these immigrants, once they become citizens, will vote Dem 2 to 1.

We do not have an Hispanic problem. We have an immigrant, minority, and younger voter problem. The changing demographics of this country have electoral consequences and have for decades except the Rep political elites and pundits have failed to recognize it. Some of it has to do with the huge influence the Chamber of Commerce has over the GOP. They have been pushing more guest workers, more immigrants, and amnesty to keep the flow of cheap exportable labor coming into this country to reduce wages and increase profits. In the process they have privatized the benefits and socialized the costs, which are killing our schools, healthcare, and law enforcement. Now the GOP Establishment solution appears to be to embrace amnesty as a way of getting more minority and immigrant votes. The exact opposite will happen as it will increase the number of Dem voters and lose more of the GOP base who will be upset about such a move.

If you want to see a brief, chilling video about how the Dems and the SEIU feels about an amnesty and what it means, just watch and listen: At the America's Future Now! conference in Washington, DC on June 2, 2009, SEIU International Executive Vice President Eliseo Medina addressed attendees on why comprehensive immigration reform is an important issue for the progressive community to support, and how progressives can forge common ground on an immigration reform strategy.

The Dem Party has made itself the party of immigrants and minorities. It is almost tribal and has less to do with economics and self-interest than it has to do with tribal politics in a society that trumpets multiculturalism and diversity.

Demography is destiny. We appear to have reached a tipping point that many of us have for years been warning about, i.e., the electoral consequences. The Dems are becoming the permanent majority party. CA is the canary in the coal mine. It is totally lost to the GOP and it is only a matter of time before the entire state congressional delegation goes Dem. Bilbray, Lungren, and Mack lost their seats this time. Almost all the remaining Reps were in competitive races.

The loss of predominantly non-Hispanic white states in the Northeast and Midwest are harder to explain. It seems to boil down more into differences in political philosophy and the role of government than demographics. The culture of dependency has take hold. And our education system is manufacturing Dem voters at both the K-12 level and higher education.

138 posted on 11/11/2012 8:40:30 AM PST by kabar
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To: rodguy911

Good catch. I jsut watched most of DNC Dave on MTP and I don’t recall even hearing the word Benghazi. Its as if it doesn’t exist.
We need to make them pay a price for manipulating the news,its all they understand.


I think that MTP plays to the Dem base that cares to watch TV at a semi-intellectual level.

They believe only the important things are covered by the alleged insiders/seers.

They are the insurance policy once you get over the core, don’t watch or care
about MTP or any other news program where you may have to think.


139 posted on 11/11/2012 8:41:28 AM PST by patriotspride
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To: Fishtalk

My suggestion in my Blog for how Conservatives should go forward.

Two Good Things, and It’s a Stretch, About the Re-Election of President Obama
http://patfish.blogspot.com/2012/10/two-good-things-and-its-stretch-about.html

Below the Freep thread of the above, but includes commentary by other Freepers.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2957530/posts

Below, a recipe for tomato tortollini soup, which I just made and love.

Ingredients
•1 package (9 ounces) refrigerated cheese tortellini
•2 cans (10-3/4 ounces each) reduced-sodium condensed tomato so up, undiluted
•2 cups vegetable broth
•2 cups 2% milk
•2 cups half-and-half cream
•1/2 cup chopped oil-packed sun-dried tomatoes
•1 teaspoon onion powder
•1 teaspoon garlic powder
•1 teaspoon dried basil
•1/2 teaspoon salt
•1/2 cup shredded Parmesan cheese
•Additional shredded Parmesan cheese, optional

Directions
•Cook tortellini according to package directions.
• Meanwhile, in a Dutch oven, combine the soup, broth, milk, cream, tomatoes and seasonings. Heat through, stirring frequently. Drain tortellini; carefully add to soup. Stir in cheese. Sprinkle each serving with additional cheese if desired. Yield: 10 servings (2-1/2 quarts).


140 posted on 11/11/2012 8:43:42 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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