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To: mikrofon
From what I’ve read, some of the over-vote confusion is due to multi-part forms used in these various districts. However, you couldn’t have more fertile ground for vote fraud than areas where the process is overly complicated, like this.

It's ENTIRELY due to multi-part ballots. If you look at the numbers released by the county, the first two sheets (summary sheets) list the number of "cards counted." THIS is the place where you see "turnouts" of 113% and up, with a total "turnout" for the county of 141.1%. That's because the ballot was so long in this county (and, as I understand it, throughout Florida) that it was split up onto two different ballots. So, each voter who voted actually had two ballots cast.

If you look at the whole report, the rest of it lists the number of ballots cast in each race. For President/Vice-President, for example, the report states that out of 175,554 registered voters, there were 123,591 votes counted for President/Vice-President. This equals a turnout of ~70.4%.

So, the ~140% “turnout” reflected the fact, because of the length of the ballot, there were two different ballots issued to each voter. 70% turnout * 2 ballots = 140% “turnout” (where “turnout” = ballots/voters)

25 posted on 11/10/2012 11:33:55 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Your explanation was exactly what I was referring to — I’d seen it stated a number of times on multiple threads.

What I don’t want, is having the potential for fraud associated with the overly large numbers discounted as simply the rantings of “wild-eyed Conservatives”. I think Allen West has good grounds to dispute his tally in Saint Lucie County, due to the rapid change in the vote count that occurred there.


33 posted on 11/10/2012 11:47:34 AM PST by mikrofon (Allen West for Speaker of the House ... for "Revenge")
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

CON CON, oh that’s the Rat BS meme which I’ve never seen before until now. Now get those Rats to show legitimate documentation to prove it.


42 posted on 11/10/2012 11:57:05 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

What I find even more unbelievable is the Reaction by the Election Head for St. Lucie County in the interview by an NBC affiliate. (As a PAID director, she should know her Election system.)

Gertrude Walker, Supervisor of Elections for St. Lucie County, said she is not sure why the Election Summary Report lists “Cards Cast” as 141%. “They may have had something like that in Palm Beach County, but we’ve never seen that here,” she said.

(as an aside, as believable the card voting explanation is, the other counties i’ve looked at, never reported their results in that manner. what kind of software are they using, instead of the other counties, including Broward, that have the same amount of ballots, but didn’t report it that way?)

Read more: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/region_st_lucie_county/st-lucie-county-election-results-posted-after-hours-of-delay#ixzz2BnaZZjja


48 posted on 11/10/2012 12:14:31 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, it's back. 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

So....just ignore this then ? West really didn’t get railroaded?


65 posted on 11/10/2012 1:26:57 PM PST by major-pelham
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Exactly...it was a 2 page ballot (2 separate pages).

We had all the races, in our county we had the national races, local races (like school board and county commissioners), judges, and then 11 Amendments and one referendum. All of Florida had the 11 Amendments to vote on and they were remarkably lengthy.

It took us 20 minutes to vote, and we did it at home :)

The 2 page ballot is the reason for the discrepancy in numbers.


68 posted on 11/10/2012 1:52:33 PM PST by memyselfandi59
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