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Boehner Capitulates: ‘Obamacare is the Law of the Land’
CNSNews.com ^ | November 9, 2012 | Matt Cover

Posted on 11/10/2012 6:19:16 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: palmer

Get the best deal?
You are kidding aren’t you?
You know cry baby will get rolled.
The GOP is a subset of the KKKDNC.
I called the RNC and told them to get me off the list and I will unenroll on Tuesday.
Time for a third party.


61 posted on 11/10/2012 7:47:08 AM PST by cp124 (Government is value subtracted.)
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To: palmer

Get the best deal?
You are kidding aren’t you?
You know cry baby will get rolled.
The GOP is a subset of the KKKDNC.
I called the RNC and told them to get me off the list and I will unenroll on Tuesday.
Time for a third party.


62 posted on 11/10/2012 7:47:08 AM PST by cp124 (Government is value subtracted.)
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To: palmer

Get the best deal?
You are kidding aren’t you?
You know cry baby will get rolled.
The GOP is a subset of the KKKDNC.
I called the RNC and told them to get me off the list and I will unenroll on Tuesday.
Time for a third party.


63 posted on 11/10/2012 7:47:08 AM PST by cp124 (Government is value subtracted.)
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To: palmer

I don’t carry a ping list so once prepared the letter will, in draft, have to pass by word of pings from others. If it does not begin, and this will have to move quickly then all talk or typing will be as it is and for naught. Going to go at it. Will need input. Will not be agreement on all issues each of us is wanting in the final. Pray I present by Tuesday. Digested by those who want to have input Tuesday. Redraft by Thursday. Final by Saturday.


64 posted on 11/10/2012 7:52:03 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Blue Highway
There are two basic paths to sequestration and the federal crash and burn beyond that. The first is that we hold tight and let the leviathan crash. The second is we cut a deal with Obama and postpone the reckoning until we are deeper in debt with Greek style consequences.

The way we get to sequestration and a better deal that genuinely cuts the debt is by making sure we work towards a deal in public while saying no in private. If we say no in public (your plan), then Obama will go to the media and ask them for emergency powers or whatever he needs to borrow and spend more. The D-senate and enough scared house members (remember whose side the media is on) would be enough to pass something.

Or he could go the Fed route. The Fed is giving him a lot (fake ridiculously low interest rates) but they could be cajoled into giving him more. There are other ways he can get this done while your hypothetical leader rants and raves.

65 posted on 11/10/2012 7:52:10 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: Blue Highway

“we need to be pussies and give reach arounds to the dems”

Good analogy but the roles are reversed.


66 posted on 11/10/2012 7:52:47 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Turns out that White Horse was just a whitewashed jackass.)
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To: NKP_Vet
I agree they should target him...BUT...

I think Obamacare will be a gift for the GOP. It's impacts will be fully known by 2014...and as of right now...I say stop being the party of opposistion...but the party of truth. Let the American people know they are going to let them have what they voted for and THIS is what it will do.

I am now AGAINST saving an ignorant people from the consequences of their actions. Let it crash...and we'll meet on the other side.

67 posted on 11/10/2012 7:53:31 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: cp124

Ok, gotcha. The third party will only come about when one of the two parties is completely destroyed. The people on this thread calling for a strong R leader are only going to delay the formation of a viable third party.


68 posted on 11/10/2012 7:55:09 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: palmer

Barry just wants bipartisan cover. Why do you insist on giving it to him? Give him the tax increases and massive defense cuts. The is the Age of Obama. Let them eat cake.

It’s important the GOP gives no ground on o-care amendments. Let it crash the “budget” and economy. Then trot out the dim talking points of “we tried it their way” for 2014 and 2016.

Everything has to be about 2014 and 2016 now. It is too bad the country is going to suffer but this is what the majority voted for. We need to get past this cliff. Then refocus the message on the layoffs and damaging o-care regs and fight like democrats. No more freelancing RINOs setting the message.


69 posted on 11/10/2012 7:57:48 AM PST by lodi90 (Born free, won't die in chains)
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To: NELSON111; palmer

Am leaning the same way. Will get off now, or rather shortly, and begin the draft. Want everyone to know am leaning this way as NELSON11 is typing.


70 posted on 11/10/2012 7:57:49 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: lodi90

Full Agreement, FRiend.


71 posted on 11/10/2012 8:00:21 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: no-to-illegals

I would only ask that we try to keep to the core problem: the federal leviathan. That is the main reason we have other problems, States like Arizona and Texas could easily solve our illegal immigrant problems but the Feds crush even the slightest efforts to enforce existing laws. Other moral issues will be moot at the federal level once the federal government can’t fund them.


72 posted on 11/10/2012 8:02:07 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: lodi90
Barry just wants bipartisan cover.

"The word 'bipartisan' means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." - George Carlin

73 posted on 11/10/2012 8:02:16 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: palmer

You have my word and my hand shake, will do the best possible. Vetting will be the key next week. TEA Party support must be possible. Then if it gets that far, it can be decided if it will be a republican effort (all included) or a select minority of Conservatives. It may not take but forty votes or less in the House to pull this off.


74 posted on 11/10/2012 8:07:52 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: lodi90
Give him the tax increases and massive defense cuts.

That is what I want. The problem is that Obama can end run around that having the media force the house to pass a bailout of some sort. It will be just like TARP and I guarantee that my rep (Wolf - VA) will cave and pass it. What I propose is to get the best deal possible by accepting all offers in public, rejecting them in private, and waiting for the D-senate to cave in to pressure from the defense industry (among others).

75 posted on 11/10/2012 8:09:00 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: palmer
Will attempt a rewrite, including the proposal if consensus is able to be attained after the draft.
76 posted on 11/10/2012 8:11:08 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Get mad at Boehner all you want. The fact is Obama got reelected and the Dems. picked up 2 more seats in the Senate. Because Obamacare is the law and the Supreme court validated it, the Republican House cannot do a thing to change it without support from the Senate and Obama and we know that isn’t going to happen. So, get off his back on this.


77 posted on 11/10/2012 8:12:27 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I will be calling Louis Ghomert’s office first thing Monday morning, to ask if there is any way we can get a new speaker. Obamacare is still unconstitutional, John Roberts’ tortured logic notwithstanding. It is not the role of the federal government to dictate to US citizens that they must purchase any product, or engage in any commerce.

Simply saying it is a tax is not good enough, because their mandate requires a lot more action on the part of an individual than simply being taxed.


78 posted on 11/10/2012 8:14:48 AM PST by mtrott
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To: no-to-illegals

Bookmark - follow this


79 posted on 11/10/2012 8:18:38 AM PST by PatriotGirl827 (O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The Nazis had their “law of the land” too.

Boehner is a pathetic rep for liberty. He must go immediately.


80 posted on 11/10/2012 8:20:03 AM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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