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Our Values Do Not Need to Be Moderated, They Need to Be Clearly Articulated
canadafreepress.com ^

Posted on 11/09/2012 4:03:17 PM PST by tsowellfan

Republicanism was founded on a premise that all men are created equal. It is time we return to those values

Washington, DC – Mat Staver, Chairman of Liberty Counsel Action and Founder and Chairman of Liberty Counsel, responds to the 2012 election:

“The political philosophy of the Republican Party and Governor Mitt Romney during the presidential campaign was to downplay social issues and focus solely on jobs and the economy. Four year ago, McCain, like Romney, could not and would not articulate the full panoply of conservative values. Their strategy didn’t work in 2008, and it didn’t work in 2012...

(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatism; gop; republicans; teaparty
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To: RC one
Nonetheless there is nothing moderate about Bachmann. Gives me hope for conservatism.

Reagan was the best at articulating the conservative message directly to the people and Michelle failed at that with her shrill attacks on Rick Perry.

Articulating the message is important as the article says, but my point is it is a combination of both being a great communicator and most importantly being a great conservative which Mitt being a career liberal was not.

It was therefore, I submit, not conservativism that was defeated, but instead liberalism that was defeated.

Mitt lost because he is a liberal. It was still a close race though, and if the conservatives who stayed home and the third party voters had voted for him there would've been more than enough vote to propel him to victory.....had he been a conservative.

Had the base been energized and the turnout high enough for a conservative to win that same turnout would have presumably also voted for the other conservatives on the ballot.

Since they stayed home the other races missed those votes as well.

My opinion only of course, but I did predict Mitt and the GOPs failure as early as last January.

I see the GOP only continuing with their move to the left by moving even further left.

What's that saying about insanity? Doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result?

21 posted on 11/09/2012 8:36:05 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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To: Manic_Episode
Reagan was the best at articulating the conservative message directly to the people and Michelle failed at that with her shrill attacks on Rick Perry.

Brings me to my point....you simply cannot have so many running for the nomination, it is counter-productive, it should be no more than three. And also, kill the debates, they serve no purpose but to give late night comedians fodder for attacking Republicans. A candidate should get the nomination by building themselves up, not tearing down their opponents.

22 posted on 11/09/2012 8:38:46 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Agreed.


23 posted on 11/09/2012 8:42:33 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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To: Manic_Episode
Mitt lost because he is a liberal. It was still a close race though, and if the conservatives who stayed home and the third party voters had voted for him there would've been more than enough vote to propel him to victory.....had he been a conservative.

if that were the case, than how do you explain the fact that Mitt took Indiana back after it went for Obama in 2008 and the TEA party backed conservative that usurped Dick Lugar lost a seat that had been held by a Republican since 1976 even though Mitt Romney won? Indiana obviously liked Mitt Romney and turned out for him. Mourdock? Not so much. Why is that? Because Mourdock is a nut- the kind of nut that taints us all with his nutty flavor. the same thing happened in missouri btw. go ahead and offer your counter explanation.

24 posted on 11/09/2012 8:53:52 PM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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To: RC one
Mourdock is not a nut. He was factually correct is his controversial statement.

Where he failed was that he articulated poorly, horribly, a topic that he didn't need to and should not have and was piled on by both liberals and GOP-e(also liberals)alike.

The GOP-e attacked and help defeat a conservative because they have moved left and shunned controversy that would reflect on their chosen candidate and in doing so compounded the matter making it even worse.

I can't help but wonder if his own party had not turned on him if things would've simply died down.

Perhaps not but the point is the GOP attacked another GOP member, a clear violation of Reagans 11th commandment, and in doing so lost themselves a seat that may or may not have been lost otherwise. They guaranteed it.

The fake conservatives attacked a real conservative because he said something dumb and unnecessary.

He was a reliable and decent legislator that made a single mistake and the GOP showed their true colors.

25 posted on 11/09/2012 9:21:26 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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To: Manic_Episode
It was very telling that, at the Romney defeat party in Boston a woman was interviewed, and she said some blather about how the GOP must moderate its views towards women. This was at Romney's election night party!

The GOP elite wants social conservatives to go away. Sorry, but we will not.

26 posted on 11/09/2012 9:28:15 PM PST by stillonaroll
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To: Manic_Episode

Nope. He was a nut and Hoosiers recognized it. sometimes, a position is simply undefendable and you have to walk away from it. Akin and Mourdock were those positions. no amount of defending their nuttiness would have improved the outcome. The worst thing about it is that they tainted the entire party with their nuttiness. Within days of their monumental errors, battles that had been favoring us in Missouri, Indiana, Montana, Virginia, Florida, North Dakota, and Ohio turned against us. it cost us Maine and probably Massachusetts too and very likely cost us the whitehouse. If you can’t see that, you’re screwed and we’re all screwed and I’m smart enough to realize that you can’t see that so I can see the writing on the wall now, we’re all screwed.


27 posted on 11/09/2012 9:42:46 PM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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To: stillonaroll
What is amazing to is that social conservatives are attacked with impunity right here on good old Freerepublic.

Screw that crap.

If you are NOT a social conservative you are a liberal and should be called out on it.

Those who had the balls to stand by their principles and not support a liberal are being blamed for the liberal being defeated.

So those who supported a liberal are attacking conservatives for being too conservative?

Screw that crap too.

Conservatism is not the problem here.

Liberalism within our ranks is the problem and I would encourage social conservatives to rise up and defend conservatism with vigor and righteousness.

I soooo do not see Romneys loss as a loss for conservatism because he is no conservative.

I see his defeat as a defeat of liberalism within the GOP.

And I strongly predict that the GOP will only move further left and in doing so will demonstrate that they are not the direction for conservatives to go.

28 posted on 11/09/2012 9:52:09 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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To: RC one
You believe the MSMs take on the subject.

Nuff said.

29 posted on 11/09/2012 9:58:48 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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To: RC one

This is where Mitt ought to have taken the narrative by the horns.


30 posted on 11/09/2012 10:01:26 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Manic_Episode
Well said. However, I don't think the GOP electorate will move left. Those in the control of the RNC will likely do so, but they will only serve to further alienate themselves from their core voters.

There is still a remnant of socially liberal atheistic libertarians here on FR. I really don't see why Jim puts up with them.

If I want a dose of someone advocating atheistic degeneracy, I can switch on the TV or go to the movies. I don't want it here.

31 posted on 11/09/2012 10:04:45 PM PST by stillonaroll
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To: stillonaroll
"I don't think the GOP electorate will move left"

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Well, they already did with Mitt.

Will they move further left?

If there is no alternative they will and with the same disastrous results.

That is why the GOP itself needs to be replaced.

If the GOP can right itself somehow it's all good, but I am certain that they will continue on their path towards insignificance, failure and more liberalism.

Whig party part 2.

It would be nice to be wrong.

32 posted on 11/09/2012 11:05:27 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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To: Manic_Episode

about as useful as a trapdoor in a canoe. good luck.


33 posted on 11/09/2012 11:05:51 PM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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To: Manic_Episode
Remember that Mitt was opposed by 70%+ of GOP voters in early primaries. He beat a fractured conservative base with a group of deeply flawed opponents: inarticulate (Perry), personal baggage (Newt, Cain), unelectable (Santorum), did not run (Sarah, Barbour). Mitt outspent them all and destroyed them with negative ads.

Also, the open primaries are a disaster for the GOP, especially in a year with a Rat incumbent. If the GOP makes no other reforms between now and 2016, they should at least consider making all state primaries closed to non-Republicans. At least that would make the Rats re-register as Republicans before they could vote for the least conservative R in the primary.

I'm not ready to support a new or existing third party. All that would serve to accomplish is to split the economic and social conservatives.

34 posted on 11/09/2012 11:18:23 PM PST by stillonaroll
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To: stillonaroll

That’s why Texas should be the first primary, instead of one of the last ones, when basically it’s already over.


35 posted on 11/09/2012 11:24:40 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
I think that's a great idea! Even better, have a Red State Super Tuesday, the first week in January.

Closed primaries, only Republicans allowed to vote. The RNC should deny all delegates to any state with an open primary.

36 posted on 11/09/2012 11:29:41 PM PST by stillonaroll
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To: tsowellfan

The Wimps running the House of Representatives can start by telling Harry Reid that singling out Groups to be punished Because they hate them or are Jealous of them is UnAmerican,and we as Americans wont tolerate that. But I dont expect the Pussy Boner To say that.
They Should be Demanding an explanation to the American People why Americans Died in Benghazi,Including why we are arming Jihadists, that have killed Americans, to depose Assad.
I wont hold my Breath


37 posted on 11/10/2012 5:35:45 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: stillonaroll
You will likely get Chris Christie. For me the brand is tainted and predictable and I'm not buying. Ive stated my intentions 4 years in advance so that is plenty of notice so it should come as no surprise when the inevitable occurs. I stated my intentions this last cycle repeatedly years in advance. At first there were many like me, but as the clock wound down we became less and less as people capitulated to the peer pressure and eventually we were shouted down and hopelessly outnumbered and called all manner of bad things. Nonetheless enough held onto their values and with honor intact stood fast and the results speak for themselves. Barring the unforseen I predict more of the same.

Best wishes.

38 posted on 11/10/2012 8:38:35 AM PST by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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