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Boehner 'confident' GOP, Obama can reach deal on immigration
The Hill ^ | 11/08/2012 | Daniel Strauss

Posted on 11/08/2012 8:59:56 PM PST by Will88

"Speaker John Boehner said Thursday he was "confident" Republicans could agree to a comprehensive immigration bill. "

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Here we go again. I haven't noticed this being posted and have heard no comments on it other than Mark Levin. Unreal that Boehner is already caving on this. I guess he thinks this will will millions of Latino votes for Republicans in the future.
1 posted on 11/08/2012 9:00:04 PM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

The final nail in America’s self-built coffin.


2 posted on 11/08/2012 9:06:30 PM PST by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: Will88
This proves it: Weepy Boner is either a mole or they have dirt on him (e.g. Daily POS and their article on his two mistresses)

NO cheers, unfortunately.

3 posted on 11/08/2012 9:06:30 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Will88

Levin ripped Bonehead to shreds on his show. Listening to replay now.


4 posted on 11/08/2012 9:08:21 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Will88
Boehner, the SOH who chose to gamble away 500 billion in Defense money (that we could ill afford to lose), in return for absolutely nothing, now wants back into the casino.

NO!

Let's replace Boehner with a real Speaker (Ryan, Bachmann, and Cantor come to mind), and send Boehner to spend quality time with his collection of crying towels.

.

5 posted on 11/08/2012 9:10:40 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: grey_whiskers; Schatze

I wonder if these geniuses ever make the calculation of: how many votes from our base will we lose by pandering to Latinos?

It’s almost a shock to see this happening so soon. Boner is ready to cave on most everthing before the dust even settles from Tuesday’s election.


6 posted on 11/08/2012 9:11:34 PM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

HEY! Sobber of The House Boehner! Yeah, YOU!

Here’s a “Shovel-Ready” idea for you: Just enforce the Federal laws that are on the books!

Sheriff Joe Arpaio has them memorized, even if you Boehner have forgotten the laws that you wrote, back in the day.


7 posted on 11/08/2012 9:13:00 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Will88

Boehner’s probably figuring there is really nothing to lose because many of the illegals or immigrants will leave on their own when they discover there are no jobs here


8 posted on 11/08/2012 9:13:57 PM PST by zt1053
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To: Will88

Here’s the only deal that works: Enforce the law! Control the borders!


9 posted on 11/08/2012 9:14:42 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Will88

The Republican House has rejected these amnesty bills many times before. But the question now is how many will cave in and join Boner?


10 posted on 11/08/2012 9:14:49 PM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

The GOP-e has been wanting to grant amnesty to illegal aliens since the George W. Bush administration. The recent election gives them the perfect opportunity.

I also believe the Republican establishment is secretly pleased that they don’t have to fight to overturn Obamacare. They want the power it transfers to the federal government as much as the Dems do.


11 posted on 11/08/2012 9:16:27 PM PST by Bratch
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To: Will88

There was no big Hispanic vote in Iowa, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania, NH, or Minnesota. The Dems and MSM are trying to stampede the Reps into making a deal on immigration and amnesty.


12 posted on 11/08/2012 9:17:22 PM PST by kabar
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To: Will88

Freepers, we need some sort of guest worker program and e-identification system and some other things. This is straight out of the Texas Republican convention manual. People who are here illegally should get in line and then pay a fine before they can get their official status from the Gov. We’ve got to do something like this and get this issue put behind us.


13 posted on 11/08/2012 9:18:30 PM PST by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: Bratch

You’re right, but Republican controlled Houses have always rejected amnesty, but Boner is a whole new ball game. I just hope very few other Republican House members join him. I have no idea how it will go with Boner as ‘leader’ of the Republicans in the House.


14 posted on 11/08/2012 9:20:42 PM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

Does Boehner actually believe that giving Amnesty to illegals will ensure that they vote Republican..he is fooling himself into believing that. The second they are given citizenship(for being criminals, I guess crime does pay) they will get welfare, food stamps, and every other Govt goody available..they will be owned by the Dem party..all Boehner is doing is giving the Dem party 12+ million more votes


15 posted on 11/08/2012 9:21:54 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Will88

Folks we need to get this monkey off our back. Something has to be done. The status quo is Obama ignoring the law for another 4 years. We missed the chance to have the GOP be the architect of the solution when Bush’s attempt at reform died. Now Obama gets the credit. But either way the sooner we get this done the sooner we can get to work other things that may stop the bleeding in this growing demographic.

I know there is story today that says Hispanics vote Democrat for reasons other than immigration but the subject is still important to many of them. We have to compromise. We can’t just stand with our arms folded and demand everyone bend to our wishes. Elections have consequences and I say it’s time to remove this weapon from the Rats playbook.


16 posted on 11/08/2012 9:22:55 PM PST by paul544
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To: Mustangman
We’ve got to do something like this and get this issue put behind us.

We solved the problem with Simpson-Mazzoli back in 1986. See how efficient and reliable our government is.

17 posted on 11/08/2012 9:24:01 PM PST by Will88
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To: paul544

Why would a Hispanic who is here legally and played by the rules be in favor of others cheating the system?


18 posted on 11/08/2012 9:26:02 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: kabar
The Dems and MSM are trying to stampede the Reps into making a deal on immigration and amnesty.

And the usual suspects on Fox and in the GOPe have diagnosed the reason for the losses on Tuesday and determined that amnesty for illegals will win millions of future votes for Republicans.

19 posted on 11/08/2012 9:27:38 PM PST by Will88
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To: Liz; La Lydia; AuntB

PING


20 posted on 11/08/2012 9:29:57 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Will88

Electronic identification cards, updated social security cards, penalties to employers, guest worker programs.....these are new ideas that we need to push and implement. We need to get this immigration issue behind us so we can shake off the unfair label as being racists. I’m telling eveyone on this site that if we don’t get this done, we are sunk as a nation and a party.


21 posted on 11/08/2012 9:30:12 PM PST by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: kabar

"There was no big Hispanic vote in Iowa, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania, NH, or Minnesota. The Dems and MSM are trying to stampede the Reps into making a deal on immigration and amnesty."

Exactly.

22 posted on 11/08/2012 9:30:12 PM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Will88

Complete confirmation for my decision to unregister as a (R) yesterday and register independent. Coming back when the tea party takeover of the GOP is complete. Boehner is clearly part of the problem, and not part of the solution. If this was a marriage, conservatives in the GOP could qualify for a RINO restraining order to keep from any more abuse.


23 posted on 11/08/2012 9:30:27 PM PST by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: paul544
Elections have consequences and I say it’s time to remove this weapon from the Rats playbook.

If Republicans cave on this, then we will never again enforce immigration law again. An amnesty now would probably legalize 15-20 million, or more. Then all the family members who would follow. An amnesty would, within a few years, increase the Latino population so much that future politicians would be afraid to do anything to enforce the law. It would be open borders with no thought of ever doing anything about it.

I think this is the final opportuntiy to restore some order and law enforcement to the southern border, and it might not even be possible now.

24 posted on 11/08/2012 9:32:46 PM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

The deal is that the dems will lube up first.


25 posted on 11/08/2012 9:34:54 PM PST by mykroar (RIP America :: 11/6/12)
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To: zt1053

Jobs-We don’t need no stinkin jobs
We got Obama Bucks


26 posted on 11/08/2012 9:35:39 PM PST by funfan
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To: zt1053

Jobs-We don’t need no stinkin jobs
We got Obama Bucks


27 posted on 11/08/2012 9:35:53 PM PST by funfan
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To: zt1053

Jobs-We don’t need no stinkin jobs
We got Obama Bucks


28 posted on 11/08/2012 9:35:59 PM PST by funfan
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To: Will88
Just this morning Boehner said, “ObamaCare is the law of the land.”

Accurate?

Probably.

But where is this man's political common sense?

Unsatisfied with our defeat in 2012, Boehner is already laying the foundation for another defeat in 2016.

29 posted on 11/08/2012 9:37:46 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Hat-Trick
If this was a marriage, conservatives in the GOP could qualify for a RINO restraining order to keep from any more abuse.

Totally true. I don't think the GOPe and RINOS ever opened their eyes and realized how much W's two big amnesty pushes damaged the party. And they will never admit how much a new push from Boner will damage it now. But I think an amnesty deal just after this election would cause large numbers to give up on the GOP, myself included.

30 posted on 11/08/2012 9:38:06 PM PST by Will88
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To: dfwgator

It would not be unreasonable or unexpected for the ones here legally to feel some kind of fealty with those who want to be here legally. My heritage is Italian and I can tell you that at one time they were considered as much a threat to the “real America” as Latinos are now. There is a kindred spirit with those who share your background. I don’t think anyone has all the answers but the GOP needs to get creative and start showing off the great members of our party that have a Hispanic heritage before we lose 90%+ of that group too.

And we can’t put it all on Rubio either. If he becomes a single point of failure then the Rats will only have one person to destroy. We need a broader strategy.


31 posted on 11/08/2012 9:38:06 PM PST by paul544
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To: paul544

Mexicans don’t care for Cubans, anyway.


32 posted on 11/08/2012 9:39:24 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: zt1053
the illegals or immigrants will leave on their own when they discover there are no jobs here

Jobs? They'll make more from welfare than any job they'd have back in Mexico.

No, they'll leave when white racists start burning their houses/trailers down.

33 posted on 11/08/2012 9:39:33 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I am going to sneak across the Mexican border and then illegally immigrate back to the U.S. Just call me Pedro from now on.


34 posted on 11/08/2012 9:41:33 PM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: paul544

Do you ever consider how many conservative Republicans of long standing the party will lose by pandering to Latinos and rewarding their illegal behavior? They won’t become Democrats, but they will simply drop out and stop supporting Republicans in signficant numbers.

And I guess you know an amnesty was granted in 1986 to solve the problem. And here we are again.


35 posted on 11/08/2012 9:42:56 PM PST by Will88
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To: paul544

No We Do Not Have To Compromise on ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION...


36 posted on 11/08/2012 9:43:37 PM PST by ICCtheWay
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To: paul544

Have to compromise?

What planet do u live on.

Decades of compromises and Grand Bargains from both sides, past and
Present, have brought us to the brink. And u think more of the same is
Going to save this nation?


37 posted on 11/08/2012 9:45:09 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: paul544

No Amnesty NOW ... NO NOT EVER...


38 posted on 11/08/2012 9:47:57 PM PST by ICCtheWay
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To: zeestephen
Unsatisfied with our defeat in 2012, Boehner is already laying the foundation for another defeat in 2016.

And many more after 2016 if he helps grant amesty to 15-20 million illegals here now.

39 posted on 11/08/2012 9:57:28 PM PST by Will88
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To: paul544

Total BS. I have Hispanics signing an enforcement petition left and right. WHAT HAPPENED WHEN REAGAN GAVE AMNESTY TO 3MIL HISPANICS????? DID THEY VOTE R? GIVING AWAY YOUR NATION IS SICK! THEY NEED TO HAVE THEIR A**ES SHIPPED OUT TO FIX THEIR OWN SH*THOLE COUNTRIES!!!!


40 posted on 11/08/2012 10:02:26 PM PST by magna carta
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To: Will88

The GOP is dead, time to bury it.


41 posted on 11/08/2012 10:05:20 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: zeestephen
Unsatisfied with our defeat in 2012, Boehner is already laying the foundation for another defeat in 2016.

I think you mean 2014, the GOP will lose the House, they will be blamed for the economic crises that is coming.

42 posted on 11/08/2012 10:07:45 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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Re: “We have to compromise.”

We tried compromise in 1986.

A blanket amnesty for 3 million illegals.

In return we got “guarantees” for border protection and worker ID’s and civil sanctions against employers.

Before the ink had dried, La Raza and the ACLU were in court overturning every part of law - except the amnesty part, of course.

Obama will pretend to “negotiate” with Boehner.

The negotiations will fail because Conservatives will go ballistic.

Then Obama will declare another “Non-Enforcement” Amnesty by Executive Order, just like he did with the DREAM Act.

Paul...

Do you really have no idea how screwed Conservatives are after this guy was reelected?

43 posted on 11/08/2012 10:08:36 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

“The word ‘bipartisan’ means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out.” - George Carlin


44 posted on 11/08/2012 10:09:28 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Will88

Yo! Boner! What’s wrong with our immigrations laws the way they are? What needs to be “reformed”? Not enough poverty and freeloading commie ‘RATS being imported into this country? What is it? You bass turds in the District of Columbia keep telling us Americans that immigration needs to be “reformed”. WHY!!! What the hell is wrong with it the way it is?


45 posted on 11/08/2012 10:13:49 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest)
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To: Will88; Democrat_media

Boehner is caving on multiple fronts.

He has also stated that the Republicans would be open to raising taxes “given the right conditions”. He has announced his cooperation for everything the Dems have mentioned it seems.

But this is really all the fault of those who demanded a Conservative candidate, right Democrat_media?


46 posted on 11/08/2012 10:16:16 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: magna carta

Re: “WHAT HAPPENED WHEN REAGAN [in 1986] GAVE AMNESTY TO 3MIL HISPANICS?????”

Here’s what happened.

GHW Bush ran in 1988.

His share of the Hispanic vote was LESS than EVERY Republican candidate who had run before him!


47 posted on 11/08/2012 10:23:31 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen
Do you really have no idea how screwed Conservatives are after this guy was reelected?

Which guy? Boehner, the guy driving this, was not up for re-election. When are people going to get that the Republicans are screwing the Conservatives?

48 posted on 11/08/2012 10:23:39 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: 5thGenTexan
I meant Obama.

Sorry, if that's not clear.

49 posted on 11/08/2012 10:32:47 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen
I knew who you meant. My point is the guy screwing Conservatives is not Obama.
50 posted on 11/08/2012 10:36:41 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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