Skip to comments.Where Did the Voters Go? Nowhere.
Posted on 11/08/2012 7:25:35 PM PST by cdchik123
As the national vote total began to solidify last night, one question on the minds of Republicans was: Where are the missing voters? Last night it looked like Mitt Romney had received something like 10 to 15 percent fewer votes than John McCain had in 2008, even though his percentage of the overall vote was at least two points higher. What did this mean? Where did the voters go? They didnt go to Barack Obama, because exit polls suggested he had basically turned out the same demographic support he had four years ago. So where are they? Did this suggest a significant element of the GOP base had stayed home? Perhaps evangelical voters quietly refusing to cast a ballot for a Mormon? Populist voters disgusted by the 47 percent tape?
As I write, Mitt Romney has 57.4 million votes. John McCain ended up with 59.9 million. Its a little noticed fact that in two weeks following every presidential election, votes continue to be reported by the millions. As I recall, Barack Obama got something like four million more votes in the weeks after election day, while John McCain got two or three million. Its likely that by Thanksgiving, the final vote tally will show Romney very close to or even slightly exceeding McCains total.
So there are probably no missing voters. The idea offers a certain degree of cold comfort for conservatives and Republicans, because it would suggest the problem was with Romneys candidacy in particular and not with the movement or the party. But its false, and they will not be spared the reckoning about the partys future.
Rush talked about this a lot today when Podhoertz has a point here. OH provisionals dont get counted for 10 days. Not very cutting edge Rush :(
What about the electronic votes that were switched mid-stream from Romney to 0bama?
This is true. The totals will be updating for weeks. Romney’s at 58.13 million right now.McCain ended up with 59.95 million.
It is Obama’s votes that disappeared. probably around 5 million of them.
Mandate?! Give me a f**kin break!
No, conservatives refusing to vote for another big government liberal masquerading as a Republican.
The question, Where are the missing votes? is the wrong question. It should be, Where are the missing votes?
Paultards and Nootards.
It’s not about how people voted, it’s ALL about how the votes are counted........
If this is true, then an explanation is needed as to how Romney turned out his base, won the independents, yet still lost; managing to do so as Obama saw millions of losses from 2008. Party I.D. doesn’t account for it. There aren’t enough Democrats to do that. I’m thinking Republicans stayed home until somebody comes up with a better explanation. It’s not like McCain really got out the vote either.
"To: cripplecreek It's still a race to the bottom for these two. No reason why somebody who'd dump Obama would turn around and vote for Rombama. I see an historic low in voter turnout this November. 17 posted on May 26, 2012 8:25:28 AM EDT by muawiyah" or
" To: rogue yam You are one of those who rejected the idea that we could discuss the campaign using facts and figures. Something about that just gives the Democrats ideas or something. You'll have to do better than that. In the meantime, if Republicans do as well as they did in the last two Presidential races we are short 10 million votes of beating Obama. He's plush. Not only that, the people on his team who are disappointed in him say they won't vote for him, but they're not saying they'll vote for a Republican. That is very serious. What's going on here is the GOP-e has known for four years that our Presidential vote totals have been declining and that Obama broke all records. If he does as well, we lose. He has to lose 15% of his last vote total to get down in the territory where Republican votes are located. The only way to overcome that is to have a really bright, sparkling, charismatic candidate who attracts people. Just "thinking hard" at a problem isn't going to elicit a positive response out of the crowd who voted for Obama the first time. Again, with a 15% loss in votes Obama still beats our guy. If you really cared about winning the election you'd come up with something. BTW, the shadow of the Spring non-Primary in Virginia continues. We had exceeding light turnout yesterday and there were 5 contested House seats and a Senate seat at stake. Ordinarily you'd get folks out ~ this time they got what seems to be the same old same old. Keep that up and this Fall Republicans will lose everything in Virginia. Tell your little buddy over there who works for Bolling on these matters that it is dangerous to discourage voting. People will make it a habit! 44 posted on 06/13/2012 6:49:38 PM PDT by muawiyah " OR
This is an old issue that was suppressed for the sake of FREEPER comity during the body of the formal campaign ~ lest I somehow hurt Romney more than several other disasters had already done.
Failure to encourage Republicans to vote lost Virginia for him ~ he did that! Someone's going to remind me Bob McDonnell and Bill Bolling did that, but it was Romney. He had but to say "Hey, open up the Virginia primary to everybody or I"m not going there either' and that'd been it. Even make him a popular guy!
Failure to get more people registered who were willing to vote Republican hurt everywhere. We were short on voter registration drives.
Finally, Obama lost 9 million votes he'd had before! He literally fell on his sword to give this election to Romney ~ and still Romney didn't do as well as McCain ~ which wasn't the first time Romney didn't poll as well as McCain.
Romney’s Mormonism was definitely a strike against him. I certainly considered it a negative. His liberalism was several more strikes. I didn’t stay home though. I wanted my third party vote counted as the dissatisfaction with the two candidates that it was.
“No, conservatives refusing to vote for another big government liberal masquerading as a Republican.”
No, it was also conservative evangelicals that wouldn’t support a cult devotee that would use the Oval Office to preach Mormonisn. Also, as you say, Romney was never remotely a conservative.
BTW - I now have to live with the shame that I caved my principle at the last minute and voted for Romney. I am ashamed I did so.
US Constitution, Article VI: “... no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
“No, it was also conservative evangelicals that wouldnt support a cult devotee that would use the Oval Office to preach Mormonisn. “
Well, now they can pay for Sandra Fluke’s abortions.
Did your hissy fit result in the election outcome you wanted?
That clause allowed non-Quakers to run for federal office in Pennsylvania. It’s not a prohibition on private individuals making such decisions.
Fluke’s a dude.
Obutthead thanks you for voting your “principles”.....well done...
the results do not add up in many races like Mia LOVE AND then states like VA,FL,OH, WI , PA
what we have is an election which has results and not making sense, precints which are 100% voted but al went for obama etc.
The GOP needs to stop this crap and stop this being called and to hell with the lefts attack dogs called the media , this country is at stake and these results are not adding up i certain states//
After all the Chicago machine had 4 years for this
How’s about them Evangelical Jews? Are they OK To vote for, or not! /s
Don’t worry, you’ll get over it. I felt the same way 12 years ago when I voted for GWB instead of my real choice, Pat Buchanan.
Romney received approximately 1.5 MILLION MORE votes than McCain.
Even adjusting for growth in the voting age population, Romney got 2.5% more votes than McCain.
Nice to see Podhoretz break the tide of idiocy from the Right on this.
There a great article on Drudge on the dems use of subtle marketing techniques to sway voters. I hate to say it but it was brilliant. (professionally speaking)
I am depressed that the republicans, who I thought are much smarter than the dems, got “schooled” in electioneering.
The idea that you can sway demographics by appealing to something totally unrelated to the important issues republicans were pounding on is very interesting.... but makes sense when you think that most people don’t give two hoots about politics.
It also doesn’t make any sense that Obama would win given his record.... so the dems did only thing they could. Say bad things about the opponent and influence their base with things that the republicans would ignore.
The example of giving away cell phones, or Obama having dinner with Clooney seems like nonsense to us thinking people, but are important decision points that influence whole demographics of sheeple. Stupid sounding but a brilliant translation or marketing skills and data into retail politics.
And if you extrapolate this means that elections will never again be about issues but be about influencing people via their likes and dislikes - or other emotional signals.
Right or left will have no meaning anymore - it’ll be just red or blue.
It was better when only 20% of us voted.
“Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers. And it is the duty as well as the privilege and interest, of a Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.” - John Jay
I voted for Buchanan and still feel good about it. I did vote for Dubya for his second term and I’ve recovered from that. I continue to want my Dole vote back.
As I write, Mitt Romney has 57.4 million votes. John McCain ended up with 59.9 million. It's a little noticed fact that in two weeks following every presidential election, votes continue to be reported...by the millions. As I recall, Barack Obama got something like four million more votes in the weeks after election day, while John McCain got two or three million. It's likely that by Thanksgiving, the final vote tally will show Romney very close to or even slightly exceeding McCainâs total. So there are probably no missing voters.
That’s about ballot access for candidates, not a rule binding voters. Voting is a First Amendment right. You can express your approval or disapproval of a candidate for any reason at all, be it policy, religion, or which way he parts his hair. You just can’t keep him off the ballot based on his religion.
VOTE FRAUD got 0 in
That would explain 99 to 100% in some Philadelphia precincts.
“I am depressed that the republicans, who I thought are much smarter than the dems, got schooled in electioneering.”
Dems have the media, Hollywood and the techies. Romney was a throwback from a 50’s TV show. He wasn’t going to get it.
The GOP is the “Stupid Party”, no political savvy whatsoever.
Look at the primary season......too many candidates, too many debates providing fodder for late night comedians. Having insignificant states deciding the nominee, even before the largest pro-Republican state, Texas, even got a voice.
“No, it was also conservative evangelicals that wouldnt support a cult devotee that would use the Oval Office to preach Mormonisn.”
You have quite a flair for the dramatic. And a very creative imagination.
“Dems have the media, Hollywood and the techies. Romney was a throwback from a 50s TV show. He wasnt going to get it.”
I wouldn’t go back that far... I think Romney did a 2008 election and Obama’s guys did a 2012.
I don’t give any credit to Obama - he really was a “prop”
The dems did have the media and hollywood and techies which they used with skill. The reps should have been able to counter.... I don’t blame Romney - his message was great, and he out did Obama everywhere. Obama’s guys won the election by marketing Obama to folks that don’t do politics.
>>Well, now they can pay for Sandra Flukes abortions.<<
That’s exactly what I keep thinking. They voted their “principles,” and the result will be exactly what you said.
Not to mention the Supreme Court justices who will allow who-knows-what assaults on religious liberty.
I seriously don’t get their logic. And I AM an evangelical, who believes God’s judgment is going to be on our nation in part because we allowed this disgrace to be in office 4 more years.
Thank God. I thought I might have to kill a few thousand Romney hating Freepers for withholding votes and costing us the election
“I won’t vote for a member of a cult, no way, mister!”
Speaking of Rush, you just inspired my new tagline:
I think you've got it backwards. The fact that Obama got 4 more years is part of the judgement we are under as a nation. There's a lot of crap headed our way in his second term.
So, you would rather a socialist, communist, muslim win???
“The fact that Obama got 4 more years is part of the judgement we are under as a nation.”
I agree with you wholeheartedly, and have said as much to my friends lately. I do believe we are under God’s judgement.
>>So, you would rather a socialist, communist, muslim win??? <<
That’s exactly what they want. Otherwise they would have tried to stop it.
But, you have to understand, they are more “principled” “conservative” and “smarter” than the rest of us.
You can tell it in the way they like to boast of their principled stand, with an air of superiority.
Absolutely amazing to me.
Consider the population increase. Actually Romney got more votes than McCain. It’s just that the population grew too.
Don’t ask me. Note and understand the quote marks.
I'm reminded of a saying I once heard: So heavenly bound that they are of no earthly good.
God's people have a responsibility to be salt and light. Even though selecting from the lesser of two evils is never a good choice, it's better than absolving ourselves of any responsibility to make a difference.
This tells us that Narcissus was truly in fear of losing his grip on the nation.
I think the conservatives need to spend the next 4 years fighting for Voter ID laws in every state. Or start doing voter fraud just like the Democraps.