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1 posted on 11/08/2012 6:05:54 PM PST by JerseyanExile
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Totally expected outcome from an immoral society. We’re vulnerable to the current pillage and looting from the Barbarians. Watch the scortched earth crowd in action. They party and hand us the bill.


2 posted on 11/08/2012 6:11:36 PM PST by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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3 posted on 11/08/2012 6:13:17 PM PST by tomkat
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It will be the Thhird World that shall govern us. It will not be nice for white Americans.

Our only hope will be if the black/Mexican coalition violently breaks apart.

4 posted on 11/08/2012 6:15:39 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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Never forget that the Christian faith—yes, persecuted by the Empire until A.D. 314—ultimately helped preserve the final legacy of the Empire in all of the places and through the individuals you mentioned.


6 posted on 11/08/2012 6:23:57 PM PST by lightman (If the Patriarchate of the East held a state like the Vatican I would apply for political asylum.)
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While I wasn’t around in the Roman times, I do know the melding idea in the here and now might not be the same. The America of my youth didn’t have dirty diapers left in parking lot spaces as there are now. The America of my youth didn’t have the foul language, sloppy/stripper look in attire for adults and kids. The America of my youth didn’t have the selfish, me first, give me attitude so previlent today. Maybe all of the above happened with the fall of Rome, but it sure sucks big time now.


7 posted on 11/08/2012 6:25:11 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (I'm going Galt.)
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I can't help but wonder if America does ever fall, will the people living through it realize it is gone? That what future "Americans" call "America" will actually just be a fiction created by them as a way for them to try to reclaim some of the greatness that was once this thing called America? And that transition to the new fiction from the old reality will be lost on many who live through it?

They don't, it is and it will be.

...Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, ...

When elected officials and bureaucracies act outside the law they are simply lawbreakers. When the majority of the people vote in favor of the lawlessness that has greatly manifested itself in the highest offices they have withdrawn their consent to be governed by a constitutional government. By what legitimate basis does the United States of America, as a Constitutional republic, still exist?

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

'The People' no longer support that. They voted in support of lawlessness from the highest office on down. They voted against the rule of law. By referendum we now have a banana republic. The USAINO.

8 posted on 11/08/2012 6:28:27 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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American died when the North won the civil war.

It’s pretty much been all downhill since.


9 posted on 11/08/2012 6:28:35 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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Those of us with our noses to the political grindstone would do well to step back and contemplate the fact that a small percentage of our population embraces what we just witnessed on the boob tube.

The American ideal - how it is iterated and practiced in history in a world so full of change - needs a solid voice that undercuts the media on the one hand, and reaches out personally to the masses who do not live in our bubble.If you adhere to what is written in the biblical texts it should come as no surprise to be an alien in the midst of a hostile environment. Count it a blessing!


10 posted on 11/08/2012 6:32:29 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (double trouble, here we come)
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More than anything, America is an idea, something that became the greatest experiment in the history of mankind.

In just a few generations that idea has been diluted by the multi-cultralists, moral relativists and politically correct notions that permeate virtually every institution in America.

As a result, America is no longer an idea, it has become just another place.


12 posted on 11/08/2012 6:48:31 PM PST by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
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Well, a hundred years ago, the Victorians were in charge. Manners and honor and good taste were esteemed. Then, came WWI. Right or wrong, the Victorians were blamed for the slaughter wrought by machine guns and fast, breech loading cannon and poison gas. WWI brought us the Roaring 20s! It may well be that the excess brought by the liberals in this decade will cause another Roaring 20s! where the laziness and arrogance of the liberals is thrown out.


16 posted on 11/08/2012 7:21:55 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”- John Adams

Since we are ceasing to be a moral and religious people, then the death of the Constitution will soon follow. Historically speaking, periods of disorder are usually followed by dictatorship or monarchy. That’s probably where this is all headed at some point- back to the default of autocracy. If the beliefs and ideals that underpinned the government established by our Founders disappear, so does the government that stood upon them.

Of course, those d**n social conservatives and their morals don’t matter. /sarc


20 posted on 11/08/2012 7:36:02 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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As we become more and more like Europe, and less and less like the country that was founded on the principle that we are not Europe, then if there is any hope then it is this: that even as we become more like them, they are becoming more like us.

Europeans are committing cultural suicide. Their cultures and languages will die. Europeans aren't having replacement children.

In two hundred years there won't be enough 'Germans' to keep the language alive. Same for the French, Hungarians etc. In our country liberals don't have replacement children, but conservatives do. That will stop. Conservatives aren't going to want to bring children into this world - this country - either.

Europe will become Arab - and us? I suspect the American culture will become third world... one bad and dangerous neighborhood from coast to coast...

21 posted on 11/08/2012 7:45:49 PM PST by GOPJ (New York Times Slogan : "We rewrite Democrat Press Releases Better!")
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Thanks for the interesting post. It’s always a tonic to get a unique analysis of something, especially this particular subject, which is being hashed over by all and sundry. I am enjoying many people’s grappling with this political eruption of Karakatoa.


22 posted on 11/08/2012 7:50:29 PM PST by jobim (.)
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It’s a nice dream that we will be remembered when we fall. That someday scholars will look through the annals of history as they struggle to form a new government with new ideals somewhere as they throw off the chains of tyrranical oppression. It’s just a dream though.

The visogoths and the ostrogoths may have sacked Rome, but they wanted in on the wealth as much as anything else. That is why they were more than happy to settle down alongside Roman citizens, ultimately adopt Roman habits, Roman Language, and Roman tradition. When Rome passed on, it remained as a shining dream. That is not our fate.

The international left, including what passes for the Democratic party in the United States hates America. They hate America with a blind burning hatred. The notion that individuals have a right to their own conscience, to speak their mind, and gather with like-minded people is completely anethema to them. The notion that rights are granted by a power higher than the state is something they recoil from like a vampire from a cross.

If the International Left succeeds, and they may yet not, the very next day they will begin to take an eraser to history. The left already speaks of the United States not really having any history compared to the other nations of the world. They tip their hand. Books will be destroyed. The internet will be purged. All reference to us will be destroyed as quickly as possible.

The future they will present will be one in which anyone that strays outside of the state’s very narrowly defined acceptable behavior will simply be cut off from the necessities of life. The state will control food, water, housing, clothing, fuel, and work. The elite need not even have much of a police force. All they will need is a network of public cameras and internet sniffers.

America must destroy the international left or be destroyed by it.


26 posted on 11/08/2012 8:34:57 PM PST by Hawk1976 (It is better to die in on your feet than it is to live as on your knees.)
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As goes Detroit, so goes the nation.


34 posted on 11/09/2012 3:33:16 AM PST by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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>> But for now my faith is no longer in America continuing as the greatest nation on Earth. I just don’t see it happening.

GFY, Shackleford.


38 posted on 11/09/2012 8:41:16 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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