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What are our options?
Self | 08 November 2012 | Self

Posted on 11/08/2012 7:11:59 AM PST by ShadowAce

OK, so Obama was re-elected on Tuesday. What are our options?

  1. Bend over and just take it. We wait for four years and try to elect someone who is closer to us in political outlook and perspective. We pay our taxes, call in to conservative talk radio shows, get our grievances off our collective chest. We suck it up and work from the inside to change the system.

    However, it took the liberals 80 years of promising free stuff to lazy people in order to make it happen. As conservatives, we will not promise them free stuff. We merely promise them a chance to work hard for a possibility of getting ahead. That is not a recipe for garnering votes from at least half of the people. We will never re-gain our country from within. Ever.

  2. Go with the the flow. This option is different, and may not sit well with most people. Vote for the worst leaders we can--Bernie Sanders, Sheila Jackson-Lee, Maxine Waters, Biden, Reid, Pelosi. Support them in everything they do. Drive this country into the ground as fast as we can. When we've totally destroyed what's left of this wonderful place, we can begin the re-building process--hopefully with more support than we have now.

  3. Fire our employees and become one of the takers. “Show them they can't take from us.” Go Galt. Shrug. Whatever you want to call it. Get off the grid and starve the beast. This option only lasts as long as the government is willing to tolerate you. Once enough people are doing this, they will decide to gather you back in to the fold or kill you. That is a real option. It may work for you, but it will not change this country.

  4. Secede. Our country is gone. This is the most difficult—both physically and emotionally. Physically because, as we all know, The Federal government will not take secession lying down. They will come after those who attempt to leave and it won't be pretty. For those who believe that your fellow citizens won't fire on you, think again. People under authority, and people under orders do things they strongly disagree with merely because someone in authority has told them to do it. It has been proven multiple times in the lab and in the field. It will also be difficult emotionally. This is our country. We would be destroying something wonderful that was founded over 200 years ago. Unfortunately, that country no longer exists, and hasn't for about 80 years or more—since the New Deal was legislated into law. The big decision each one of us has to make is--”Am I willing to sacrifice everything I have and hold dear for a non-guaranteed attempt to bring our country back?” That sacrifice will come—it's not just a possibility.

So. Those are the options as I currently see them to change our country. I am not forgetting prayer. This is something we all must do regardless of the choice(s) we make above. Option 1 is obviously the easiest. We don't have to change our lives, or actually do anything different. Just complain and bend over as they continue to come at us. Option 3 is the most difficult. I am not charismatic. I could not persuade people to join me or any cause I support. It must be started and led by people much better at that than I am.


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OK, Shadow Ace, not to you SPECIFICALLY, but to ALL similar posters here on FR:

Y'all have finally REALLY pissed me off.

Instead of whining, talking of secession, heading for the hills or lubing yerselves up with KY for the certain treatment yer about to receive, why don't y’ALL get off your lazy butts and get behind Orl Taitz and her campaign to get the Obamination’s TRUE background in front of the public and force Congresscritters to do their #1 job which is NOT raising taxes, creating OBcare, passing new laws or worrying about the reaction of a segment of the population to THE TRUTH being presented to them.

It is VERY SIMPLY:

“... to support this Constitution; ...” (Article. VI. - Debts, Supremacy, Oaths)

Force the RINOs like Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin, Trump and all the rest of the multi-millionaire talking heads to put their $$$ where their collective huge yapping mouths are.

Hold the New Generation of do nothing TP promoted congresscritters’ feet to the fire so they ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING to change the course of history instead of sitting by and watching the greatest nation this world has ever and will ever see go swirling down the toilet.

Light a fire under Issa and Grassley to get F&F wrapped up and the Benghazi fiasco as well. Inundate the buggers in DC by phone, email and snail mail until they react.

Maybe start another REAL Teabag campaign to bury them in the Boston Tea Party reminder of the people's wrath.

HERE IS THE FACT OF LIFE IN THESE DIVIDED STATES AS OF TUESDAY'S RESULT:

THIS COUNTRY IS NOT GOING TO SURVIVE A FULL 2nd TERM of Obamination.

By EXECUTIVE ORDERS, SUPREME COURT NOMINATIONS, EPA REGULATIONS, DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY POLICIES, OBAMINATIONCARE & ITS TIES TO THE IRS AND HOMELAND SECURITY/TSA's IMMIGRATION POLICIES & THEIR SHREDDING OF THE BILL OF RIGHTS the Obamination Administration WILL complete the destruction of this country.

The USA simply CANNOT survive a completed 2nd term of this radical imposter. Y'ALL better do something about it NOW or kiss the USA farewell forever more.

IF NOT FOR YOURSELVES, THEN FOR YOUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS.

IF NOT NOW, THEN WHEN?

“NORMAL” Germans didn't support Hitler and didn't believe that the atrocities would “actually” take place, so they stood by and watched it come about.

Are y'all going to sit there and atch the same thing take place HERE??????????

Just a COUPLE of sources of some eye popping info:

How Do You Kill 11 Million People?: Why the Truth Matters More Than You Think by Andy Andrews

Rhythm, Riots and Revolution. by Rev. David A. Noebel

1982 video documentary No Place to Hide: The Strategy and Tactics of Terrorism by the Western Goals Foundation, which includes the discussion re eliminating the 10% diehard unconvertible patriots, and as of this writing is still available on utbe in its entirety at:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV0uu4bIC6w

The clip is available separately at:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/2455-obamas-friend-ayers-kill-25-million-americans

Get off your keisters and DO SOMETHING.

81 posted on 11/08/2012 9:34:11 AM PST by CanuckYank
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To: LivingNet

“The landscape is clear and the trajectory certain. If you value freedom, hard work, the fruit of your own labor, accept responsibility for your own actions, and expect government to protect the rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness (the US government was formed for this purpose), you will not like what lies ahead. You can surrender. You can complain while conforming. You can fight it. But you will not vote your way out of tyranny. You no longer have the numbers.”

Worth repeating: We will not vote our way out of this. The Takers will not accept taking less or providing for themselves. The Makers will need to make them.


82 posted on 11/08/2012 9:36:17 AM PST by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: Hojczyk

“not all blacks love OBAMA”

Close enough: 99% in 2008 voted for him and I have no doubt the same voted for him again.


83 posted on 11/08/2012 9:39:37 AM PST by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: ShadowAce

right now we are the firewall between liberalism and sanity. back down and its over.


84 posted on 11/08/2012 9:46:37 AM PST by Reagan_Country_USA
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To: 3catsanadog

Conservatives should plan to strike (their buisnesses which they own) for a month or more. They should plan, save money, prepare for a month (coordinated) to tell the dems and the takers we will not be run over. If they want their automobile worked on, they have to get in line and wait until the buisness is back up and running. If they want to go out to eat, tough shit,...they will have to wait. If they need to get clothing,...they wait. It will cost us some money....Start saving now....Get the movement going and make a statement. When they do not have your money to steal and redistribute, maybe some of them will wake up. I do not know.


85 posted on 11/08/2012 9:51:49 AM PST by Texas Songwriter (,)
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To: ShadowAce

IF we had a House with b@lls, then the House would do the following:
Do NOT authorize funds for obanascare.
Do NOT appropriate funds for obamascare.
The House can do that, they have the power of the purse.

They can stop obamascare NOW. . .if they had b@lls.


86 posted on 11/08/2012 9:52:26 AM PST by Hulka
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To: ShadowAce

“Congress is comprised to two houses, containing 435 people whose sole job is to make laws.”

To be clear, there are 435 in the House with 100 in the Senate.

That makes a total of 535.

Just sayin. . .

;-)


87 posted on 11/08/2012 9:56:00 AM PST by Hulka
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To: July4

Have fun in your all white world! As a conservative Black man I have spent a lot of energy insisting to others that the fear that conservatives are racist, comes from the lies of the media, glad none of the people I have been talking too will see your comment.


88 posted on 11/08/2012 10:07:59 AM PST by jukker
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To: jukker

Please tell me where his statement is racist.

Thanks.


89 posted on 11/08/2012 10:11:10 AM PST by Hulka
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To: dartuser
5. Give up politics as an important principle of my life, accept the fact that the left has cemented its power base and the numbers will be with them until the country collapses under the weight of its own debt.

In this scenario, I will spend my time pursuing things with eternal consequences: study of the scriptures, increased focus on personal holiness and evangelism, discipleship of my children, investing in the lives of people for the kingdom.

Anything else, at this point, seems like a wasteful use of time.

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!

90 posted on 11/08/2012 10:14:41 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Free Vulcan
We owned 2010, we can own 2014.

We owned nothing in 2010. So what if Republicans took control of the House? What have they done to stop anything that Obama wants? Where is the blockage of funding for Obamacare? Where is the blocking of country-crushing debt?

Nowhere.

Boehner isn't going to do anything to stop liberalism or socialism. He wants it as much as the Dems do.

Like it or not, we live in a one-party state masquerading as a two-party state.

The only question is what are you gonna do about it?

91 posted on 11/08/2012 10:40:48 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Bfl


92 posted on 11/08/2012 12:00:51 PM PST by krunkygirl (force multiplier in effect...)
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To: ShadowAce

we will never, ever convince the lazy and thieves to go back to work with words. America is over, it is not just this election. Gay marriage, open drug use, no morals, no work ethic, no G_d - this country is over. Half of the country hates, not just dislikes, but loathes the other half. It is time for a divorce.

We need a leader, to pull together a few other governors in continuousus land mass, go to DC and present terms for the divorce. Several European countries have broken up, no war required. I do not see, that when presented with ougrievanceses, and terms, that they would really fight to force us to stay.

The Rats in our cities will self deport when told the free ride is over. We’ll gave freedom loving people. Reset the rules to honor G_d and family, self-reliance and hard work.

going Galt will not work, IMHO. taking it, well, I’ve taken it my whole life, not interested in that option. give them what they want and wait for the collapse? No, leave now while we still have something to build on.

The problem with this approach is we don’t have any true leaders to do this.


93 posted on 11/08/2012 12:25:16 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: verklaring

Emigrate not immigrate. There is a problem with that though and that is where? Even with the state of things in the US the way they are it’s even worse elsewhere. The easiest place to move to at least culturally is Canada. It has a nominally conservative national government but pretty much everything is more expensive and taxes are way higher. They are further down the socialist road than the US is in many aspects. The reach of the government in Canada however may be less than the US although that in a certain way is hard to measure. Lets just say law enforcement has fewer toys in Canada than the US does. You will not however feel more free in Canada. Everywhere else is pretty much harder to move to and culture issues may or may not arise.

I am not saying this option is impossible as plenty of expat Americans do live in many varied places but just be sure and check out where you plan to move to first. There is no chick fil a outside the US as far as I know.


94 posted on 11/08/2012 12:51:06 PM PST by xp38
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To: ShadowAce
Ok ... modified suggestion ... we start a "Freeper Business Forum" - an entirely separate organization...with membership requiring some decent donation to Free Republic. Employer members would agree to post all new job openings on that org's web site two days before posting them elsewhere.

There would be other benefits as well (tbd), and higher levels of membership involving, among other things, larger donations to Free Republic.

For higher levels of membership there may also be a requirement to do a certain volume of annual business with other members.

In other words, we start looking out for each other, while also energizing the global message of Free Republic.

95 posted on 11/08/2012 2:00:39 PM PST by The Duke
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To: ShadowAce
Gridlock is good.
Not for politicians.


That's the problem. We have a class of people who does nothing but make more and more laws for everybody else, while they can exempt themselves.
That is not good. It needs to change.
Elections are supposed to keep them in check but with half the population on the take, it's not working.

I'm beginning to see how the ancient civilizations collapsed, under their own weight.

96 posted on 11/08/2012 8:48:08 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Hulka

well if he won’t hire a person based on the color of skin, without finding out if that person has the same political ideology as himself, then the only reason he isn’t hiring from that group is race.

If one can take the time to find out which way the political winds blow when hiring a pale person (and many pale skinned persons voted for the won) why can’t he figure out how to find the political leanings of a darker one? Then it would truly be based on politics not race.


97 posted on 11/09/2012 12:49:10 PM PST by tickles
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