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I don't think Ryan was a liability. Romney hiding Ryan was not good though. The part about Mitt McCain never attacking Romney and being Mr. Nice Guy is right on the money. You fight fire with fire. Something that only Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin seem to understand as republicans.
1 posted on 11/07/2012 4:49:42 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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Romney lost because he signed up for a knife fight in a phone booth....
.....and tried to act like the maitre d'...

Pardon my blunt assessment...

2 posted on 11/07/2012 4:57:17 PM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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Likely because he’s a heretical liberal and many sincere Christians and conservatives stayed home and answered to God and their values rather than country.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 4:57:55 PM PST by bramps
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Ryan was a mistake. He spearheaded an attack on Medicare. I think Medicare needs to be abolished along with Social Security, but in the real world, Medicare is the Third Rail. Touch it and you die. In essence, Romney’s campaign took on Bush’s baggage from suggesting Social Security privatization *before* even winning an election. I’d argue that the 2006 election wipeout was a direct consequence of Bush’s bright idea.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 4:59:51 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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Romney seemingly ignored this truth by taking an ultra-hardline on immigration — one so tough he called for the "self deportation" of illegal immigrants. Not only is such a plan impractical and immoral, it is unacceptable politically, as yesterdays' results proved.
1. Latinos like the welfare state. It is part culture and part socio-economic status. Cubans are the exception, except not so much in New Jersey.
2. What is "hard-line" about asking criminal aliens to leave? That seems awfully soft to me. Even a liberal Republican like Ike, deported illegals.
You can call this political suicide if you wish, but calling "self-deportation" immoral is Cultural Marxist balderdash.
9 posted on 11/07/2012 5:07:45 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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Romney got less votes than McCain. Had he mobilized what even a moderate McCain managed to mobilize, Romney would have won. So the big story is that Romney lost because he was not able to mobilize enough of GOP base, that more GOP-leaning people got turned off and sat out this election. May be it had to do with Romney being a Mormon or not being conservative enough. A couple point shift and results could have been vastly different.


11 posted on 11/07/2012 5:10:12 PM PST by kp2hot
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I think it was three factors that caused Romney’s defeat:

(1) We held on to most of our GOP Congressional seats. The losers lost because they were too conservative for their districts. A UPI poll indicated that 10% of evangelicals said they wouldn’t vote for a Mormon. That took him out in FL where he lost by tens of thousands of votes.

(2) Romney’s editorial about opposing the auto bailout took him out in the Rust Belt states. That was why Bush supported the bailout - a lifetime in politics taught him elementary electoral math that Romney never had the chance to learn - one of the Rust Belt states (Ohio) provided his margin of victory in both 2000 and 2004.

(3) Selecting Ryan turned off just enough people concerned about Medicare that he lost in places where he might have won, like NH and FL. Remember, we don’t get to define ourselves. Any Republican pol who mentions the words “Medicare” and “reform” in the same sentence without also mentioning the word “oppose” is pointing a loaded gun at his own head, politically-speaking.


12 posted on 11/07/2012 5:12:22 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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FRAUD....let me tell you why.....in OREGON True The Vote 2000 registered Voters on the voter rolls whose address was a Homeless Shelter, that didn’t receive mail....2000 here, 1000 there, 500 over there....multiply that by all the precincts....and guess what???


17 posted on 11/07/2012 5:24:09 PM PST by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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6. Poor Campaign Staff. Considering that Romney's presidential quest was the best funded Republican race in history, his campaign staff was certainly not the best money could buy. The Romney staff was insular and arrogant, and his campaign strategy team led by Stu Stevens and Russ Schriefer was simply abysmal.

Back during the summer, Rupert Murdoch (chairman-NewsCorp), Donald Trump (real estate mogul), and Jack Welch (past CEO GE) all said seperately that WMR's campaign staff was seriously deficient.

18 posted on 11/07/2012 5:24:18 PM PST by MacNaughton
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Everybody knows and everybody advances and argues their pet theory. All of them perdictable, boring and cliche ridden. Mr Ruddy should have written and published the above last weekend or earlier, then it would have been brilliant.

I’ve my own theory too, which I am not advancing and won’t argue. Everybody knows the low turnout of registered Republicans, with Romney receiving fewer votes than Juan McCain 4 years ago. What ‘appened? First, I think that Peggy Noone, Michael Barone and Dick Morris were in a way correct in their last weekend’s predictions of Romney victory. Correct in that they all expected normal high Republican turnout. What ‘appened then? Oh, did I axe that already? So sorry.

Here’s my novel theory based if not on anything else then on the observations made on this very forum. The stigma of racism. The Republican voters were intimidated by it into refraining from voting. Cannot boo a lousy black stage performer, cannot not laugh at an unfunny black comic, cannot vote against a black man speaking TV anchor English (at least when he’s not addressing homies or senile old black folks who remember being ‘colored’, ‘Negro’, ‘black’, and now must accept being ‘American-African’.) In 2008 these same voters were NOT voting against Obama, since he was McCain’s equal. Now when he’s an incumbent, voting for Romney, would be, do I have to say it? RACIST! and that is a bigger crime than murder as Mark Fuhrman among others surely knows, Shirley! The stigma of “RACISM”, an invention some have argued of Leon Trotsky.


21 posted on 11/07/2012 5:25:53 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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The republicrats think tactically.

The demoncraps think strategically.

THAT is the difference. They’ve been laying the groundwork for this for about 100 years by systematically dumbing down the population and now its finally coming to fruition. It’s like Rush said today - people were voting in favor of Santa Claus and he’s hard to beat.

America as founded no longer exists except in our memories.


22 posted on 11/07/2012 5:27:38 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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“The ground lost in Tampa wasn’t regained until the first debate in Denver, when Romney shined. It was the first, best, and last time he would really sparkle.”

By “shined” do you mean pump out a bunch of moderate nonsense jettisoning his prior conservative positions? Keep avoiding whats staring you in the face.


26 posted on 11/07/2012 5:38:40 PM PST by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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This article is BS.
Probably put out by Romney to deflect from his own failure.

Ryan was great.

Eastwood was great.

Romney was a coward who felt he was ordained to
be a deity (like Obama); and except for one
debate was essential a wimp for the majority of the
time; defended by ... his wife.


30 posted on 11/07/2012 6:17:17 PM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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The reason Mitt lost is because he was campaigning on jobs while what the electorate wanted was welfare. It really is as simple as that. The contrasts between the radical socialist and the moderate were stark. Yet when they had the chance, the voting public chose radical socialism.

This is not an environment where conservatism can flourish.


31 posted on 11/07/2012 6:40:51 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (A Constitutional Republic, not a suicide pact)
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I’m surprised no one has mentioned the mainstream media (MSM) as a major factor in this election. You can’t claim that their bias was not a major factor, can you? They whitewashed/ignored Behngazi, the FEMA response to Sandy, and Fast and Furious. And these were only the most recent examples.


32 posted on 11/07/2012 6:41:01 PM PST by omni-scientist
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Rick Santorum connected with the people, and Romney did not so much, but many people demonized Rick because he was not their candidate. So we got Romney, and now we still have Obama. Horrible!!


49 posted on 11/07/2012 9:55:20 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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It was in the bag for Barak before the election was over. He knew it, that’s why he played basketball election day. That’s why he told all those bold-faced lies his last election stop. That’s why he acted as the first debate was soooo inconveinencing for him.


51 posted on 11/08/2012 6:24:21 AM PST by everlast
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