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Romney Could End Up With Less Votes Than McCain Got In 2008
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Posted on 11/07/2012 10:29:18 AM PST by chessplayer

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To: Gene Eric

if not ‘rape’ it’ll be some other word. we need to get some coaches out to these candidates to instruct them on how to NOT get involved in any back and forth commentary with leftwingtard reporters.


21 posted on 11/07/2012 10:54:13 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Gene Eric

Every future GOP primary debate from now to the end of time needs to feature at least one question on rape and abortion.

Cost us two slam dunk seats in this election and probably caused at least some of our voters in other areas not to come out and vote at all.


22 posted on 11/07/2012 10:55:21 AM PST by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: voveo

maybe those voters who reported they pushed the Romney touch screen area and Obama touch screen area registered a vote (for Obama) happened a lot more than anyone imagined. The chicago thugs rigged machines??? this may not be so far fetched ....wasn’t there articles suggesting rigged machines prior to election?


23 posted on 11/07/2012 10:55:59 AM PST by awin
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To: chessplayer
I don't think anyone could have defeated Obama.

Too many voters were willing to overlook Obama's record because they didn't want to see America's first Black president not be re-elected. Would've been seen as a slap in the face to Blacks and a setback for civil rights.

In other words, white guilt won Obama a second term.

The shiftless are leading the clueless.

24 posted on 11/07/2012 10:56:51 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: Joseph Harrolds
In a June UPI poll, 10% of Republicans stated they would not vote for a Mormon. Do the math.

That may also explain why the GOP hung on to Congress, but lost the White House.

25 posted on 11/07/2012 10:57:57 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: chessplayer

Obama lost more votes though. Again, McCain got more votes because more people voted in general BUT he got less EV than Romney, lost two more states than Romney (Indiana and NC) and lost by a wider margin in places like VA, FL, and OH.

McCain did worse than Romney..period.


26 posted on 11/07/2012 10:58:09 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: chessplayer
Obama got almost 10 million less votes than he did in 2008. Romney got about 2.7 million less votes than McCain did in 2008. All the noise about a souped up GOP ground game didn't seem to materialize.

2008

Obama 69,456,897

McCain 59,934,814

2012 (not final)

Obama 59,971,178

Romney 57,304,430

27 posted on 11/07/2012 11:00:15 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: GSWarrior

I don’t think anyone could have defeated Obama.

Too many voters were willing to overlook Obama’s record because they didn’t want to see America’s first Black president not be re-elected. Would’ve been seen as a slap in the face to Blacks and a setback for civil rights.

In other words, white guilt won Obama a second term.

The shiftless are leading the clueless.
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Exactly. People still blaming Bush allowing the black guy get away with doing a shitty job out of feeling sorry for him. same crap white guilt always does with minorities. low expectations and placing blame of their failure on some white guy.


28 posted on 11/07/2012 11:00:47 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: Zhang Fei
mormons live in a highly structured philosophical environment. discussions outside that environment ~ that's something they AVOID like the plague.

It's like being a sort of kinder-gentler snake handler. i grew up in a neighborhood with such people. They all assured me they were my friend, and we should play, and why not come to church with them someday.

They were also quick to advise me that 'they who donna' tek' op' ye snakes AIR gonna' go to Hell' ~ so, theologically there are inoffensive methods, and then there are the snakehandlers who share the same theology as the methodists. There are fake snakehandlers who do the pentecostal thing, but they're fake pentecostals as well ~ one jerk or la-la-la at the wrong time and that snake has you in his teeth.

So, snake handlers will tell you that you are doomed unless you do it their way. Mormons have that same message but you have to read about it. They are not like Methodists theologically speaking.

Another nice thing about Mormons is they don't use snakes in church ~ far's as I have heard. But you have to join up and work your way through the chairs to find out. I'd bet Mit knows.

29 posted on 11/07/2012 11:03:41 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: American in Israel

Very Well Put and True.


30 posted on 11/07/2012 11:03:44 AM PST by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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To: chessplayer

Palin was on the ticket last time.


31 posted on 11/07/2012 11:04:42 AM PST by delchiante
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To: Zhang Fei
That may also explain why the GOP hung on to Congress, but lost the White House.

Consider the fact that Todd Akin, a Presbyterian, and Richard Mourdock, an Evangelical, both lost their senate races in states Romney carried handily. I don't think anti-Mormonism is a significant factor.

32 posted on 11/07/2012 11:05:58 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: chessplayer

It would be very helpful if we had a comparison by state of the McCain vote in 2008 and Romney’s vote. I wonder if we’d see that drop-off even more so in battleground states.

Maybe someone, somewhere is putting that together for publication soon.


33 posted on 11/07/2012 11:06:17 AM PST by Will88
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To: chessplayer

Can you handle the truth about the low voter turnout for Romney? McCain got more votes because of the true conservative, Sarah Palin! McCain was running off the road into the ditch until Sarah came on board to ignite the “conservative base”! The GOP still does not get it!


34 posted on 11/07/2012 11:07:17 AM PST by LYONS67 (KEEP THE FAITH, STAND UP AND FIGHT, NEVER QUIT!)
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To: chessplayer

Granted, the comparison numbers will change, but I’ve taken a preliminary look at 10 states and can only find three where McCain beat Romney:

TN 1.93%, OH 3.85%, PA 1.71%

FL and TX were up 1-2%

NC +6.8% (flipped)
VA +1.3% (remained Zero)
CO +4.3% (remained)
NV +12.01% (remained)
WI +11.3% (remained)

I’ve not found the rest of the difference, but the next I will examine will be where I expect to see a big drop, NY and NJ.


35 posted on 11/07/2012 11:09:51 AM PST by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: cynwoody
Consider the fact that Todd Akin, a Presbyterian, and Richard Mourdock, an Evangelical, both lost their senate races in states Romney carried handily. I don't think anti-Mormonism is a significant factor.

I'd argue that Akin and Mourdock lost the moderate vote, which presumably went for Romney and provided his margin of victory.

36 posted on 11/07/2012 11:11:17 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: LYONS67
Can you handle the truth about the low voter turnout for Romney? McCain got more votes because of the true conservative, Sarah Palin! McCain was running off the road into the ditch until Sarah came on board to ignite the “conservative base”! The GOP still does not get it!

The question is whether she also ignited the liberal base, such that Obama won the popular vote by a 7% margin.

37 posted on 11/07/2012 11:15:04 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Joseph Harrolds

So much for the meme that Palin cost Republicans votes.


38 posted on 11/07/2012 11:17:15 AM PST by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: voveo
"Massive Democratic voter fraud!

Yep. Millions (yes, millions) of illegal aliens participating in the election. Ballots conveniently printed in Spanish for them. Acorn (gone underground with a dozens of different names) engaging in vote fraud. No ID checking. Etc etc. It's ugly.

39 posted on 11/07/2012 11:18:23 AM PST by StormEye
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To: Zhang Fei

“Half of that is 3m votes. That’s Obama’s margin of victory right there. Maybe it was never in the cards. Romney is the ideal RINO candidate except for the fact that he’s Mormon.”

Blind bigots. They claim to be pro-life, yet they were willing to allow Obamacare (an institutionalized, taxpayer-funded assault on the lives of the unborn, the sick and the elderly) to stand rather than vote for somebody they consider a “cultist” who pledged to repeal it.

They are no less bigoted than blacks who voted for Obama merely because he’s half black.


40 posted on 11/07/2012 11:23:42 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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