Skip to comments.Update: Rep. Allen West in close race (Rep. Allen West loses reelection)
Posted on 11/06/2012 11:21:35 PM PST by KantianBurke
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Well, in Utah, what chance did a republican have when a pro-partial birth abortion, pro-homosexual marriage, pro-Heroin libertarian is on the ticket.
Their firebrands are winning.
Ours are losing.
Mia Love and Allen West were threats, in close races. Those controlling the counts are smart enough to make little changes which might seem plausible. The bottom line is that we have absolutely no means of verifying vote counts. We do not today have a representative republic, regardless of what anyone babbles about the latest touch screen system. A voter can have a printed receipt, and compare his/her vote with the what they see on a screen. But there is absolutely no way to insure that what a voter is shown is tabulated as marked, and forwarded to some anonymous authority. All the authorities are anonymous, and that should be a clue. Only real people at the precincts, reading counts from hand printed ballots is verifiable. It is a little more trouble, but today, our elections cannot be assumed to have meaning.
This is not a new phenomenon. It depends upon the naivety of the public about computing equipment. Paper, and local counts, is the only way to provide an audit trail. Computer scientists have tried for decades to to develop auditable verifiable voting, with some clever, but thus far, flawed results. Many in political power don't want to return to paper ballots, claiming the process is too slow. But without it, elections are not verifiable, and can easily be manipulated. Until this major hole in representative government is fixed, prognostications about why a measure passed or failed, or why someone did or didn't win are meaningless. The person who or party that wins an election today is most likely the person or party that controls the report of the count, because there is no verfiable count.
F-— you, Florida District 18. F-— you. (Not you, Kantian Burke.)
ENOUGH! That wasn't Romney's doing. Mourdock and Akin blew their races saying moronic things about rape and abortion.
FACT: Romney pulled 1.4m votes, 3m more than Obama in Indiana. Mourdock lost almost that many from Romney's total.
FACT: Romney pulled 1.5m votes in MO, almost 3m more than Obama. McCaskill blew Akin away with a 5m vote margin.
FACT: George "macacca" Allen should not have tried a second time for the US Senate from VA.
FACT: Connie Mack IV was a truly horrible candidate in FL and may have hurt Romney.
Allen West was always a prime target and loved to shoot his mouth off. I often found his striden comments embarrassing. I had thought he was moved to a safer district but still eliminated.
Mia Love was running in a Democrat district in Utah. I hope she doesn't give up.
That's pretty shocking considering the economy is still a mess although I haven't looked into whether the marked improvement in individual swing states, like Ohio, was a factor.
That means if the economy doesn't fail further, 2016 will be even harder for the GOP. The Dems will have two popular living ex-presidents to campaign for their candidate and the Republicans will have only failed candidates and the Bush family.
The candidate slate is probably clean for 2016 on the GOP side. Santorum may think he's "next in line" but he's a certain loser. Perry could run but I suspect that's unlikely. The other candidates in the field this year were not substantial or ready for retirement.
Successful GOP governors should start thinking about their runs. I do NOT expect Biden to follow Obama unless Obama's removed from office during his term.
What makes you think we’ll still have elections in 2016?
Easy. Think "gimmes" versus "producers". Like I said in my vanity, it's time we shake hands with Greece and Spain since we are becoming a 2nd world nation due to the "takers".
It's over for the values that built western civilization. Too many are not willing to sacrifice for the good of capitalism that made us all strong back when. Too many are taught differently in hippie controlled schools.
Protect your assets and family, because this is just the beginning of the end...
That word “helots.” I do not think it means what you think it means.
Helots were not spongers living off the dole. They were horribly abused slaves exploited by their Spartan masters, who were the real takers.
Something weird was going on in more places than just Florida. The first inkling was when we had near-simultaneous reports of Dem election judges forcing Republican poll watchers out of the polling places in Philadelphia, Ohio, and Florida. The timing made it seem coordinated, and the only reason to do it was to buy sufficient time to cheat.
There were other sporadic reports throughout the day, culminating in the report that Broward County Florida was still voting at 10:00pm local time while returns were being reported from the rest of the state! I don’t think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out what was occurring there. In fact, I noticed that in pretty much every state the heavily Democrat urban centers were the last to report, some dragging out their totals until long after the rest of their state had reported. That’s either an amazing coincidence or part of the usual plan to wait until they know how many phony votes they need to make up the difference, and then manufacture them in the urban precincts and voila, report victory.
I don’t know if there was enough cheating to blame for the results, but it clearly was occurring on a larger scale than usual.
ENOUGH! (to quote you) and your devotion to Romney nonsense.
It was the hard left governor from Massachusetts that killed the 2012 election dreams against Jimmy Carter II.
His 20 year record in politics, is of defeats and disaster, he even left the Massachusetts GOP broken and lost his seat to the dems.
Excellent and accurate. We have to recognize that our brand has a major flaw and if we step on that landmine it’ll blow up. We’re winning on the abortion issue, yet Mourdock and Akin aren’t aware that the media is going to paint whatever they say as madness. They were targeted and both walked right into the kill zone.
Allen and Mack were losers from the start.
Steve king won.
Cant’t have both parts of the ticket from he same state...
This is more disappointing news than Obama winning...
Well....good man lost,
Maybe he finds a higher calling and has 3 years to work on it.
Get rid of Weepy McBoner, and make Allen West Speaker of the House!
? he lost dude. He can’t be speaker.
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