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1 posted on 11/06/2012 10:42:40 PM PST by nathanbedford
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1. recognize that 50% of our fellow voters are stupid.
2. message accordingly.
3. stop fighting like a girl and go for the jugular.
2 posted on 11/06/2012 10:46:52 PM PST by Chgogal (Obama helped murder US Navy SEALs.)
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Too wordy.

It’s very simple.

Moderate to liberal GOP candidates for President don’t win.

Romney, with his horrible record as Governor and his support for Abortion and the Gay Agenda and with no clear, consistent limited government message was bound to lose.


3 posted on 11/06/2012 10:47:33 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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bttt


4 posted on 11/06/2012 10:48:18 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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This is a long game now. We’ve conceded the media, academia (including public schools and higher ed) and vast segments of the culture to the left. The same left that spent 40+ years taking over the aforesaid institutions. We need to be patient, and start immediately taking over these institutions at the grassroots.


7 posted on 11/06/2012 10:49:50 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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I have a really weird numb feeling , not anger , more like the shock of seeing major trauma

I was trying to place the feeling and now realize its the same feeling I had when rolling up on tragic traffic accidents with death and dismemberment

really weird feeling , somber , shocked, greivously agitated , a feeling of fear

8 posted on 11/06/2012 10:50:05 PM PST by KTM rider
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If you run a candidate who is Liberal/Left against the same - the greater Liberal/Leftist will win.

In the case of yesterday - a Liberal Democrat lost to a Marxist.

Plain and simple.


9 posted on 11/06/2012 10:53:14 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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“We are running out of time . . ..”

No. We have run out of time.

Oldplayer


10 posted on 11/06/2012 10:53:29 PM PST by oldplayer
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I remember feeling this way under Carter. Depressed about the future of America, disappointed in our people.

Then Reagan happened and my faith in human beings was restored.

I still have that.

All we need is another Reagan.

:)

Heck, it’s been thirty years. We’re due.


16 posted on 11/06/2012 10:56:34 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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When I read “the Republican Party and the future of conservatism in America” I say see ya later, the two are not the same.


17 posted on 11/06/2012 10:56:53 PM PST by Ray76
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This election was rigged. None of the signs were pointing to a whipping like Romney got. Michelle Bachman may lose, for God’s sake. Tommy Tompson lost after Walker won handily in a recall just last year. The turn out was heavy but there was no sign that it was 50-50. I truly believe every close state was rigged. As it became apparent I told my wife “Watch what happens. They’ll give obama some votes. Then they’ll give Romney some votes. And they’ll do this and keep it close as long as they can. Then they’ll give it to obama.”

I was sucked into the Bush 2000 phony vote fiasco in Florida. That was to make us think that every vote counts.

Then I got sucked into voting for mccain because of Palin. They needed her on the ticket to at least make it a little closer. Nobody would have believed a muslim would win that handily over a war hero.

Now I got sucked into thinking “Romney is a good man. Surely enough people will see that.” I sent him $35 two nights ago. Once again, I was fooled. It will never happe again.


18 posted on 11/06/2012 10:57:47 PM PST by Terry Mross (Once again I wasted my vote. But I have learned my lesson.)
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The Republican Party replaced the Whigs and it has become the Whigs. The GOP has no principles except to have no principles.

If they can’t beat this America-hating tyrant in these circumstances, the Republican Party needs to have a going out of business sale and shut the doors so a real opposition with some backbone can rise up.

But then, conservatives might have a real vehicle to advance our ideas. The RINO Establishment will never permit that.


19 posted on 11/06/2012 10:57:56 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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I’m not sure if you conveniently attribute the “mistakes” of Romney’s campaign in that long paragraph to others, or simply predicting the lame analyses to appear in the coming days and weeks and to freeze in history books for the foreseeable future. No matter. In my opinion, no GOP candidate could have won. It was Romney vs Obama-Main-Sewer-Media. It was Romney vs the 47%, vs the OJ Jury nation, vs Dancing with the Starlets.


20 posted on 11/06/2012 10:58:22 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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This is what happens when you nominate the electable candidate.


21 posted on 11/06/2012 10:58:35 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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My priest told me six months ago that it would be hard to elect Romney when 52% of the people receive a check when 48% pay for it. Beware of timely jokes...as the joke of the day was that the Romney supporter signed the front of the check and the Obama supporter signed the back of the check. These are truisms and I mourn the fate of our country. But what can you expect? Sixty years of NEA teachers have indoctrinated marginal students...no economics...socialist spin on history...no math...all lead to a stupid electorate, but not so dumb that they don’t know how to max the system. A stupid, stupid Supreme Court judge who lets Obamacare stand...people who say the number one problem is the economy, bush’s fault, and they re-elect this ass...dumb, dumb, dumb.....


26 posted on 11/06/2012 11:03:03 PM PST by MHT
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I think it is as simple as the takers out number the producers.

We’ve reached critical mass and there’s no going back.

The only choice now is hunker down and try to survive the coming storm.


28 posted on 11/06/2012 11:04:30 PM PST by DB
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I posted this in another thread but it applies just as well here.

The problem is the majority wants their free shit and they don't care where it comes from. This problem is insurmountable. We will have to go through pure unadulterated hell and decades of unimaginable pain before it can be turned around. We have turned the corner from a constitutional representative republic to a make it up as you go parasitic socialist nightmare.

God help us.

29 posted on 11/06/2012 11:05:30 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (I can haz CW 2 now?)
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deTocqueville and the 47%ers (conveniently budgeted out by target market by geography) + left-wing, dishonest press + voter fraud + disengaged electorate.
32 posted on 11/06/2012 11:08:37 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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Look on the bright side. Obama can't blame his predecessor.
38 posted on 11/06/2012 11:18:43 PM PST by GVnana
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Part of the problem is that democratic-republicanism wasn’t meant to function with the inputs it’s working with. If we basically have to tell other adults to look both ways before crossing the street or you might get run over by a car, then something organic is wrong with the system. If people care more about weed and gay marriage and free contraceptives than a debt spiral which will bankrupt and destroy our society then there’s little to be done.


40 posted on 11/06/2012 11:20:00 PM PST by garbanzo (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine)
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I applaud and admire your optimism, but must aver.

This was it. The last chance to peaceably work to restore liberty and the Republic. The ballot box, and the soap box have been exhausted. The political options are done. It’s over.

All who love liberty have to face the hard facts: we are down to the third box. The only question before us now is how to honorably do our duty to future generations.

Hope remains, but it is dim indeed.


41 posted on 11/06/2012 11:20:37 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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