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Well, Savage was right once again!
11-06-12 | Me

Posted on 11/06/2012 10:35:49 PM PST by Kevin in California

Hate him or not but didn't Savage predict the election was lost when Ryan was picked as Romney's running mate?


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1 posted on 11/06/2012 10:35:51 PM PST by Kevin in California
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To: Kevin in California

I’m begining to think Savage is right.

The nation is taking too many drugs.


2 posted on 11/06/2012 10:40:16 PM PST by oyez (ex-GOP)
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Who did Savage WANT to be picked, just out of curiosity.

I really believe VP choices barely matter at all.


3 posted on 11/06/2012 10:41:59 PM PST by Crimson Elephant
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To: Kevin in California

I don’t remember (or dispute) that, but I predicted that the election was lost when (or before) Romney was nominated.


4 posted on 11/06/2012 10:42:32 PM PST by matthew fuller (God is cast his early vote 10/29 in Obamaland!)
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To: Kevin in California

It had nothing to do with Ryan. Too many Americans are addicted to the freebies. Add that to the democRAT base, factor in the fraud and you have a sure win for Obama.


5 posted on 11/06/2012 10:42:32 PM PST by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: oyez

Romeny lost it when 0bama was beating his brains out over the summer and did nothing to respond. That and not mentioning Libya in the debate. And, oh yeah, being the godfather of 0bamacare.


6 posted on 11/06/2012 10:43:43 PM PST by Lou Budvis
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To: Kevin in California
Blaming the loss on the Ryan selection is total BS.

Did the Savage One suggest a VP nominee that would have salvaged this disaster?............Christie?

It was lost because we have too many stupid people voting for their ObamaPhones.

7 posted on 11/06/2012 10:43:54 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Obama Lied, Stevens died.)
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To: Kevin in California

Ummm... there are many reasons Romeny lost, one being, Romney was too nice and pulled his punches, just like McCain... but another is that we have crossed a threshold in America, takers vs producers... where the takers outnumber the rest. I expect a major American Fail during the next four years...


8 posted on 11/06/2012 10:43:54 PM PST by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: Kevin in California

Do you really, really think Obama won because of the VP pick?


9 posted on 11/06/2012 10:44:14 PM PST by expat1000
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To: Kevin in California

Stop! ryan, romney Obama, Biden.

C’mon.

It was a conglomeration of things. Ryan is great. So is Romney.

47 f ing percent is what’s wrong. They don’t think about thegreater good the good of the country.

Stop and please stop agreeing w MS for the moment. He is too much right now. He is right about many things, but he is a nay sayer and he is destructive and he is often as wrong as Dick Morris, who at least has the counttry’s best interest in mind. Savage comes and goes on that.


10 posted on 11/06/2012 10:45:13 PM PST by stanne
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To: expat1000

“Do you really, really think Obama won because of the VP pick?”

I guess the corollary would be that Biden pulled Obama across the finish line. Foolishness.


11 posted on 11/06/2012 10:47:08 PM PST by Psalm 144 (See Psalm 2 for final election results.)
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To: Kevin in California; All

Only a Liberal PhonyCon RINO blames Paul Ryan for the loss

Because it seems everyone who blames Ryan is a supporter for Marco “La Raza” Rubio, who would have been a 57 state disaster for the GOP.

Rubio’s support for Illegal Alien Amnesty would have kept conservatives home. Rubio’s involvement in the Florida GOP credit card scandal would have been fodder for Democrat attacks

Real Conservatives do not blame Paul Ryan


12 posted on 11/06/2012 10:48:22 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: Kevin in California

The DNC out bid us.

We need to offer 1 acre in Manhattan and $500,000 cash for every vote.

Would get votes and hasten the reset.


13 posted on 11/06/2012 10:48:29 PM PST by NoLibZone (The DNC out bid us. We need to offer 1 acre in Manhattan and $500,000 cash for every vote.)
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To: Kevin in California

There’s no way in hell Obama won because Ryan was the Pubbie veep pick. What a load of codswallop. Obama won because the percentage of the ignorati and the takers grows larger year by year. A great percentage of Dem voters probably couldn’t even tell you who the Pubbie veep candidate was. If anything Romney put the clamps on Ryan and kept him from talking about Obama’s socialist economics policies. Ever hear Romney call Obama a socialist? Romney simply said he could do better because he was a rich guy who ran businesses. Pubbie candidates have to tell the brutal truth about their opponents. Nice guys finish last.


14 posted on 11/06/2012 10:49:24 PM PST by driftless2
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To: dps.inspect
Ummm... there are many reasons Romeny lost, one being, Romney was too nice and pulled his punches, just like McCain...

Well he can now hold his head high and say he took the moral high road.

15 posted on 11/06/2012 10:50:27 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Kevin in California

Because of Ryan?! B.S.


16 posted on 11/06/2012 10:50:34 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Psalm 144

Not my words-Savage’s words. And if memory serves me right, Savage made this prediction the next day after Ryan was tapped as the VP running mate. It’s not like Savage made the prediction long after Ryan was tapped.


17 posted on 11/06/2012 10:50:59 PM PST by Kevin in California
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To: South40

Yes, and this is why people who think having Rubio as the Republican nominee next time will be a slam dunk. If Hispanics are inclined to vote for the Democrats, then they would vote for a KKK member in a white hood if he has a “D” by his name. To think that minorities (which are no longer in the minority!) are going to vote Republican if the candidate looks like them is absurd.


18 posted on 11/06/2012 10:51:02 PM PST by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Doomonyou

heh, why the hell bother...


19 posted on 11/06/2012 10:52:00 PM PST by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: Kevin in California
Picking Paul Ryan is one of the few things that actually accelerated Romney's campaign. I stopped listening to Michael Savage long ago. The man donates to liberal democrats. Nuff said.
20 posted on 11/06/2012 10:52:07 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: South40

Oops, I meant to say that people who think Rubio would be a slam dunk as the nominee are nuts.

It’s late. I should just go to bed. ;-)


21 posted on 11/06/2012 10:52:16 PM PST by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Kevin in California

You are connecting dots that do not connect.


22 posted on 11/06/2012 10:53:29 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("DONE: The GOP Establishment Has Now Lost 2 In a Row")
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To: matthew fuller

Here is just one post-

To: Kaslin
“’The Only Thing Weaker Than the Economy Is Romney’s Electoral Skills’”
She is overlooking the total ineptitude of the RNC. We are facing a perfect storm of stupidity this election. My tagline says it all.

32 posted on Sunday, July 15, 2012 7:49:25 PM by matthew fuller (Election 2012- Epic Fail candidate vs Epic Fail President!)
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23 posted on 11/06/2012 10:53:46 PM PST by matthew fuller (God is cast his early vote 10/29 in Obamaland!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Just quoting Savage- nowhere in my original post did I say Ryan was the reason for tonight’s defeat.


24 posted on 11/06/2012 10:55:12 PM PST by Kevin in California
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To: SeminoleCounty
Real Conservatives do not blame Paul Ryan

Michael Savage is no real conservative. He only plays one on radio when his conservative listener-ship drops.

Mondays Show - Anti-gay, send in the miliatary to control the gays (to pander to the right)

Tuesdays Show - Republicans destroyed the economy (to pander to the left for a rise in ratings)

Wednesdays Show - Talk about God

Thursdays Show - Bash "the golfer" for high leftist ratings

Fridays Show - Meatball recipes, 60s music and money to governor Brown

25 posted on 11/06/2012 10:57:21 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: Michael.SF.

Amen Brother.

Ryan did not cost us this election, Republican RINO’s did when they picked Romney for us.

I have never been so dissappointed in America in my whole life.

Americans have chosen to commit suicide by Obama.


26 posted on 11/06/2012 10:57:23 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Kevin in California
Just quoting Savage- nowhere in my original post did I say Ryan was the reason for tonight’s defeat.

Nonsense--you explicitly agreed with Savage in the title of your post.

27 posted on 11/06/2012 10:59:46 PM PST by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: Kevin in California

The election was lost on October 5, 2011.


28 posted on 11/06/2012 11:00:36 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Michael.SF.

Savage wanted Rubio as a running mate. He might have garnered more of the Hispanic vote that way, so perhaps Savage is right. Call him a naysayer, but I am a big fan of Savage. He tells the truth, and anyone who is NOT a naysayer right now has something wrong them.


29 posted on 11/06/2012 11:01:28 PM PST by malkee (V)
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To: Pining_4_TX
To think that minorities (which are no longer in the minority!) are going to vote Republican if the candidate looks like them is absurd.

Correct. Incumbent Quico Canseco lost to Dem Pete Gallegos in TX CD-23 tonight. The Dem's threw over 5 million, and Bill Clinton at that race.

30 posted on 11/06/2012 11:05:10 PM PST by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: Kevin in California

Savage is just another tokyo rose Berkley, san francsico liberal/communist making money off of dupes all the while helping to elect Obama. Probably donated to Obama as Savage was caught donating to ultra liberal governor of california Jerry Brown .wake up people . When has this hack talked about the free market or capitalism or limiting government?


31 posted on 11/06/2012 11:05:45 PM PST by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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To: Junior_G

Really Junior? This is what my title says:

Well, Savage was right once again!

Explain to me how that is agreeing with Savage.


32 posted on 11/06/2012 11:06:29 PM PST by Kevin in California
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To: dps.inspect
heh, why the hell bother...

Uh, I'm thinking. There may be a reason. I'll let you know when it comes to me.

Don't hold your breath.

33 posted on 11/06/2012 11:06:49 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: malkee
Savage wanted Rubio as a running mate.

Rubio was my choice as well, so on that Savage and I agree. But, that aside, we lost because of the top of the ticket, not the bottom.

In four years I would love to see a Hillary-Rubio contest.

But by then that 'dependent' 47% may well be the controlling 51%.

34 posted on 11/06/2012 11:08:45 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Obama Lied, Stevens died.)
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To: Kevin in California

Ryan was barely covered in the media, so it’s hard to see how any negatives came from him. If he was a negative, they would have covered him more.

This was lost because Obama is the first American Idol president. He’s a celebrity. Enough people voted on emotion that could not be overcome by very clear logic suggesting his first-term record was a poor one.


35 posted on 11/06/2012 11:12:45 PM PST by JediJones (Vote NO on Proposition Zero! Tuesday, November 6th!)
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To: Michael.SF.

I don’t think Ryan was a bad choice. I actually liked Romney more after he picked him. But I do think Rubio would have drawn more Hispanics. Ryan didn’t help in the state of Wisconsin.

Hillary Clinton will never be president of this country. Her time is past, and I think they’ll find someone else to run next time. Someone even worse.


36 posted on 11/06/2012 11:13:08 PM PST by malkee (V)
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To: Venturer

and who would you have picked?


37 posted on 11/06/2012 11:15:44 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: Talisker

I’ll bite. What happened on that date that lost the election?


38 posted on 11/06/2012 11:18:04 PM PST by pluvmantelo
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To: Kevin in California

Personally, I think Zero won because the election was close enough for the D’rats to cheat.


39 posted on 11/06/2012 11:22:40 PM PST by hawaiianninja (Palm note to self: Pray for the America!)
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To: RitchieAprile

It doesn’t matter who I would have picked for Vice President. it doesn’t really matter who we picked to run for President. America has been take over by perversion, Godless liberals, Drug addicts, illegal immigrants, and those living off the few of us left who work.

That was the decision made tonight.

But to answer your question I would have had Gingrich as my Presidential Candidate.He would not have stood and grinned at the 3rd debate.


40 posted on 11/06/2012 11:26:43 PM PST by Venturer
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To: matthew fuller
I don’t remember (or dispute) that, but I predicted that the election was lost when (or before) Romney was nominated.

So did I, and I got flamed here on FR for it. I got down and my knees and prayed to God I would be wrong, but I am almost totally convinced now, that given the choice between good and evil, the American people will choose evil almost every time.

41 posted on 11/06/2012 11:40:06 PM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: Mark17

You are not alone. I too predicted in September that Romney would lose while I was visiting Florida, and got flamed as well, and accused of being a liberal. I consider myself a realist.


42 posted on 11/06/2012 11:44:44 PM PST by malkee (V)
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To: Lou Budvis
The thing about “A Mormon will not be elected US President” was being passed around more than 4 years ago. I did not accept that. Too many think of Mormons as Jehovah Witnesses on bicycles. The GOP did not much to address that perception. If Romney were of more orthodox origin he would be giving his acceptance this very minute. I'm sorry folks, but way I see it. I would much rather have a Mormon President than a Liberation Theology President.
43 posted on 11/06/2012 11:49:23 PM PST by oyez (ex-GOP)
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To: Kevin in California

two things happened to allow 0bama to win

1. the stoners and pill heads had a month to get off the sofa and vote

and

2. 10-20% of the right will NEVER vote for a mormon.

here in pinellas county florida, there were barely any 0bama signs... plenty of romney signs... yet 0bama carried the district.

of course, rabid voter fraud is always worth 5-10 points for dems


44 posted on 11/06/2012 11:59:43 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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I consider myself a realist.

Me too. I just wonder if this is permanent, because the takers outnumber the producers? Your thoughts on that?

45 posted on 11/07/2012 12:09:03 AM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: Mark17

Well, I live in Pennsylvania, which is an interesting state. Some real conservatives here, but outnumbered by the union people, etc. I mentioned elsewhere on FR tonight that I am considering breaking a 30 year friendship over this election. Our values are just too different. For example, she sees gay marriage as a right that should be guaranteed in the constitution, yet she claims to be pro-life. (And is a democrat of course).

I think as long as the left (people like her) are inculcating youth through academia and controlling the media, this trend will continue. It won’t change until a popular hard-liner (like Reagan) arises. Right now the right in general is way too timid and meek.

A lot of people hated Reagan, blacks in particular. But he had the guts to do things that needed to be done. Or so we think.

I live in Pittsburgh. Should Reagan have done for the steel industry, which failed in the 80s, what Obama did for the auto industry? Who’s to say? I know that will give somebody cause to flame me, but this city is not the important city I was born in. And, in my opinion, anyway, it has never recovered from what happened in the 80s. But they keep voting democrat.

So I don’t know. I think conservatives need to learn to speak out and stand up for their values. And I have hope for the very young, who see and will see more clearly the mistakes of their parents as time goes on.


46 posted on 11/07/2012 12:20:41 AM PST by malkee (V)
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To: Kevin in California

The problem wasn’t Ryan it was the leadership of the GOP .

The party leadership that is willing to suck DNC donkey dick so they can continue to enjoy the perks & prestige of high office & still get invited to the cocktail parties.

Combined with a deliberately undereducated & socialist indoctrinated American public are the problem.


47 posted on 11/07/2012 12:24:16 AM PST by Nebr FAL owner
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To: malkee

Fixing the country and the culture doesn’t begin or end at the ballot box. It’s more than politicians that change people’s minds on issues like abortion and marriage. If we can have the desired effect on people in the general culture, the elections will fall into place and take care of themselves.

Standing on the sidelines, letting the left dominate the culture, then simply hoping to jam a wedge in their burgeoning movement at the ballot box is a fruitless effort. It’s too late at that point.


48 posted on 11/07/2012 12:27:08 AM PST by JediJones (Vote NO on Proposition Zero! Tuesday, November 6th!)
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To: malkee

Well, I have been thinking for quite sometime, that I will leave the country. I am sure I will now. I retire next year, and I will be moving to another country. I have wanted to move there for a long time anyway.


49 posted on 11/07/2012 1:05:29 AM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: oyez
Disagree that it was Ryan’s fault.

Instead, of hearing, again; and after years’l that Obama is a ‘nice guy’; but. . . America had every right to NOT hear such.

Rather, America needed to know why they should fear a man; whose sits as Soros/Arab stooge in our White House; who is in truth; a lying Marxist; Muslim-hearted; Islamist-enemy sympathizer; who is not fit to tie the shoes of any soldier under his 'Command'. We have a right to ‘know’ the man (who would be President/King); who admits himself in a rare honesty of sorts; that his life is more a fiction; than not.

Repubs did not just fail to identify this treasonous President; who continually acts against the best interests of America; as not only not a 'nice guy'; but failed to identify Obama as a danger and a threat. Worse; they took on, 'their own’ when they themselves; took on the challenge of identifying the ‘threat in our midst’.

This is NOT about the nonsensical, 'can we all get along' non-leadership. It IS about having the courage to fight for the best of America.

It is also about the ‘enemy within’ which includes our Obamamedia.

(Looking back; think Mitt's 'third debate'; serves as 'nutshell' for Campaign MO and outcome.)

50 posted on 11/07/2012 1:20:35 AM PST by cricket (The Middle Class: Thanks to Obama; those who have not yet been 'buried'; are now; shovel ready..)
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