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1 posted on 11/06/2012 4:58:16 PM PST by SJackson
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2 posted on 11/06/2012 5:02:53 PM PST by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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3 posted on 11/06/2012 5:03:34 PM PST by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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It’s also the movies. Remember Pete’s Dragon? In the Heat of the Night? The remake of Cape Fear? Also the TV shows. Granted, Andy Griffith and the Beverly Hillbillies were positive on rurals, but let’s not forget Green Acres, Hee Haw and the Rev. Trask in Dark Shadows. Christophobes and Rural-bashers are firmly entrenched in the entertainment industry. They could no longer pick on blacks, so they went for a target of convenience.


4 posted on 11/06/2012 5:10:19 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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"The godly despise the wicked; the wicked despise the godly."

Proverbs 29:27



5 posted on 11/06/2012 5:13:51 PM PST by SkyPilot
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Many seem to fear that conservatives/Republicans are anti-sex “Puritans,”

LOL The Puritans were not called Puritans because of any stand on sex . They were called Puritans because of their strong stance on Biblical doctrine . English Common Law - written by Puritans Mayflower Compact - written by Puritans These two things is where our founders got the basis for our Constitution thanks to the Puritans understanding of both DEUTERONOMY and LEVITICUS .
6 posted on 11/06/2012 5:19:19 PM PST by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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The anti-Christian, anti-”redneck” phobias have been key contributors to the spread of the “progressive” ideology that threatens virtually all aspects of American life, from freedom of speech to national security to economic well-being.

I'm not sure causality has been demonstrated; indeed, I'm far from sure so-called "progressivism" doesn't actively promote anti-Christian, anti-religious, anti-southern, and other phobias: the divide and conquer strategy has served leftists well quite some while, after all.

10 posted on 11/06/2012 5:54:43 PM PST by Standing Wolf
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Don’t want to lose this. Thanks for posting this (prescient?) piece


14 posted on 11/07/2012 4:39:47 AM PST by cyn (Benghazi. That says it all.)
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Jackson, thank you for this thoughtful column. As a rural Southern (white, but of course for some reason Southern never means "Black" despite being the historical birthplace of Aframerica) religious Fundamentalist (though not a chrstian) I am the terrible monster these people hate and fear so much and it simply doesn't make any sense.

Blacks and Hispanics pay no social price for their chrstianity--though of course this may be for the simple reason that they vote right. If rednecks "voted right" would they be accepted as well, or would they still be villains?

Similarly, the redneckphobic urban intellectual types have no problems with the "charming" super-rational belief systems of "indigenous pipples." They would never think of taking a picture of some tribesman who believed doing so would "steal his soul," but they delight forcing the "redneck" to accept homosexuality. They claim to believe that "all cultures are equal" but obviously believe that "redneck" culture is inferior to every other culture on earth.

Many years ago I purchased and read The Redneck Manifesto by Jim Goad. This book isn't perfect. The author is apparently an atheist (and thus his ideology is as groundless as that of his opponents) and the book is full of obscenities and racial slurs. He also evinces a mild but noticeable anti-British (pro-Irish) and anti-Israel prejudice. His thesis is that the poor of various ethnicities have been turned against each other by the master class as a strategy of divide-and-conquer. Once upon a time this would have had him classified as left wing. But nowadays, simply defending "rednecks" is right wing in and of itself.

But nevertheless there are layers to this prejudice (anti-rural/southern by wealthy urban elites) that simply defy any and every convention. And these can't be addressed without addressing the two ethnic communities that appear to be at each other's throat.

Let's look at American Blacks. They aren't aliens or recent immigrants. They've been here for almost four hundred years. In fact, one could say that they stand second in line to Anglo-Saxons as the Americans. Yet now they have been transformed into an angry, alien horde that refuses to look at anything other than its own narrow economic interests. They worship like hillbillies but they might as well be secular humanists in their concerns. Do they believe in "gay rights?" Evolution? The documentary hypothesis? If so, how can they claim to be in rebellion against Europe? Isn't rationalistic humanism the most European ideology in history? I must confess that I am flummoxed and have been for a long time. I live in the rural South with Black people and I must confess that I don't understand them at all. They don't seem aware of any issues under the sun other than those having to do with race and poverty. Nothing else exists for them.

But are they really so different from the hated "rednecks?" Other than in their concerns and in how they vote they seem just like us. Why do they hate us so much? Why do elite urban intellectuals who despise rural Southern whites practically worship Blacks as superhuman beings sent to earth to bring about "social justice?" What is the secret of the alliance between these two communities (lefty intellectuals and grass roots Blacks)? I have often in the past used professional wrestling as a metaphor for this alliance because, like the "heel" wrestlers, Blacks and effete urban whites shouldn't have anything in common. They should be hostile to one another. But they are not. Their alliance is apparently unbreakable. I almost wonder if the introduction into public schools of explicity "Black" chrstianity would even be objected to by liberals.

Similarly, the poor rural Southern whites are themselves a mixed bag. Sometimes it seems the right idealizes rural Southern whites just as leftist intellectual idealize Blacks, but the sad fact is that the white South was solidly Democrat for a hundred years. Together with urban Northern Catholics they formed one of the two original Democrat voting blocs. And to this day there are plenty of "good old boy" yellow dog Democrats left. Some conservatives may not be aware of this, but I assure you all it is true. Not to mention that if Southern Blacks hadn't been treated like garbage for so long when they were still Bible-thumpers we might not be in this mess today. And how many are aware of the poor Southern white populist tradition--William Jennings Bryan and Huey P. Long? Yet so-called "socialists" despise these men because their socialism would have benefited the wrong people. And lest it be forgotten, the white South was an integral member of the original New Deal coalition.

None of this makes any sense. I find myself hated by "intellectuals" who supposedly don't hate anyone, and who prove it by hating me, because I am allegedly hatred incarnated.

I'm going to close by saying something absolutely outrageous. But the fact that two communities allegedly share the same religion nevertheless hate and despise each other so much tells us an awful lot. How many rural white and urban Black chrstians worship a "gxd" created in their own image rather than the Objective G-d Who created us all? This is an old problem of chrstianity, going way back to Greeks and Latins (and Copts and Jacobites and Armenians and Assyrians). Perhaps it's comes with a belief in the incarnation.

At any rate, it is obvious to me that there is no line that American Blacks will not cross to stay Democrat. They and their preachers will justify every abomination. And the fact that this community is not alien but among the very oldest of Americans makes the whole thing triply disturbing. Something is wrong here. And it's not anything new. There's been something wrong all along or this would have never happened.

I didn't used to be a bigot. But I must confess that I'm having a terribly hard time fighting against that temptation now, and I'm afraid it's only going to get harder and harder to resist.

15 posted on 11/07/2012 8:44:26 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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The attacks are not just against rurals, but against Traditional America. Those Jews screaming about Christians support the destruction of Judaism on the alter of their true religion political correctness. 2/3 of American Jews care more about burning their children on the topeths of Moloch (Abortion) and the sanctifying abomination (homosexual marriage) than they do about the threat to their fellow Jews. If you want to understand what has happened to America, you have to understand three things.
1. The elites have been taught to hate America thanks to Cultural Marxism. Oikophoba is the shibboleth of this belief, not its entirety. Many apolitical middle class and upper middle class people, understand that to be on the wrong side of leftist shibboleths is to doom themselves and their children to a lower class future.
2. Greivance politics*
3. Democrats have grown the taking class with welfare, and Republicans with tax reform.
4. Immigration and the failure to Americanize them, their children, and our own children.

I wrote about this four years ago http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1969413/posts

*Grievance politics unites disparate minorities in unthinking opposition to the majority, even against rational self interest. The politics of grievance is an unthinking ersatz ethnic loyalty, wherein one defines oneself in opposition, rather than in being. It leads Jews to support political correctness, immigration of Muslims, and Third Worldism, even though these are all against their rational self interest as an Americans or as a Jews. It leads Scottish, Welsh, and Irish nationalists in the UK to endorse immigration. It leads black leaders to support immigration, liberal social politics, and objectively failing education and social models. And this doesn't just apply to minorities in the West. Grievence politics in the form of anti-colonialism allows the South African regime to support Mugabe's starvation of fellow Africans in the once prosperous Zimbabwe. At its core, grievance politics is adolescent behavior. It is a mixture of finding virtue in being oppressed or having been oppressed, certitude in current virtue, a desire for unquestioned compensation and revenge. What kind of Jew is nuts enough to find common cause with Muslims who'd just as soon destroy Israel (and the United States) and murder American Jews by millions. In fact, Muslims are equal opportunity mass murderers that would kill Jews, Christians, Secular Humanists, Atheists, or any other faith (or non-faith) in the name of Allah. Why are American Jews completely blind and deaf to this very real threat? A willfully blind "Jew" who defines Judaism as liberalism, (IE an idolitor) or a derascinated leftist of Jewish descent.

16 posted on 11/07/2012 4:00:09 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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