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Posted on 11/04/2012 2:24:57 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: epow
CVN-78 Gerald R. Ford and CVN-79 John F. Kennedy (WTF???) are currently under construction with acceptance into the fleet scheduled for 2015 and 2020 respectively. CVN-77 George H. W. Bush was accepted into the fleet in 2009.
Our carrier fleet currently consists of the 10 ships of the "Nimitz" class. Gerald Ford will begin a new class.
CVN-65 Enterprise was one-of-a-kind; a spectacularly successful experiment.
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posted on
11/04/2012 3:40:38 PM PST
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: epow
“...has happened to America and it’s electorate that has brought us to this shameful point in our history...”
Free Stuff!
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posted on
11/04/2012 3:41:43 PM PST
by
Carriage Hill
("0bummer's a towering figure" - even a Garden Gnome casts a long shadow at sunset.)
To: JerseyanExile
Speaking of the CVN-21 supercarrier program, I found this blurb on wikipedia:
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There are expected to be ten ships of this class.[16] To date, three have been announced:
Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) (2015): scheduled to replace Enterprise (CVN-65).
John F. Kennedy (CVN-79)[1] (2020): scheduled to replace Nimitz (CVN-68).
CVN-80 (2025): scheduled to replace Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN-69).
The United States Navy's Public Affairs Office has requested input from the American public as to what the remaining eight ships in the class should be named. Anecdotal reports from naval officers indicate that the public favors naming the new CVN-21s after famous Navy warships of the past, mainly those of the Revolutionary War era and the famous carriers of World War II. Reportedly, Enterprise is the most favored name, followed by Saratoga, Lexington, Hornet, Wasp, and Guadalcanal. The reports also seem to indicate that the public does not want more carriers named after politicians or Presidents.[citation needed]
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Hope this is accurate info and that the Navy pays heed to it.
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posted on
11/04/2012 3:45:17 PM PST
by
Charles Martel
(Endeavor to persevere...)
To: JerseyanExile
spend naval funds on constructing newer Ford-class carriers.
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posted on
11/04/2012 3:47:52 PM PST
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: JerseyanExile
spend naval funds on constructing newer Ford-class carriers. IMO, we need to pick up the pace a bit on getting the Fords to the fleet. Having only 10 carriers requires spreading fleet assets a bit too thinly.
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posted on
11/04/2012 3:48:39 PM PST
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: JerseyanExile
As sad as it may be, better to decommission her and spend naval funds on constructing newer Ford-class carriers. The next one, hopefully, christened Enterprise...
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posted on
11/04/2012 3:53:58 PM PST
by
okie01
(THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
To: Sub-Driver
I had the honor of serving on the Enterprise 1983-1986, Weapons Dept, W Division. My first ship after bootcamp.
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posted on
11/04/2012 3:54:17 PM PST
by
aomagrat
(Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
To: JerseyanExile
good point
I guess a complete overhaul probably costs more than building a new one
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posted on
11/04/2012 3:55:30 PM PST
by
GeronL
(http://asspos.blogspot.com)
To: GeronL
I guess a complete overhaul probably costs more than building a new one
When CVN-78 was delayed by a few years the USN did a feasibility study into overhauling the Enterprise to fill in the gap (the Navy carrier fleet is set by law at 11 decks, with Enterprise leaving it'll temporarily drop to 10 until Ford is commissioned). They determined that it would cost $3 billion (which would include a refueling, which she would need) and allow her to conduct two more deployments.
Not cost effective. Unfortunately preserving her as a museum wouldn't be cost-effective either. Once she's defueled at Newport News (it'll take 3-4 years to do that) she'll be towed around South America and up to Puget Sound for scrapping. Since there won't be much in the way of hiding it, it's going to be painful to watch her get cut up in slow motion (that part will take at least another 4 years).
Hopefully some critical parts of her will be saved. Key amongst these are the five portholes in her bow auxiliary conning station and three in the CO's in-port cabin that came from the previous Enterprise (CV-6). Those NEED to find good homes somewhere, preferably in the next Enterprise. After that it's been speculated that her unique island could be removed and preserved. It would possibly seem like a weird decapitation ... but it's the most recognizable feature of the ship.
To: tanknetter
bump
You are correct. Although if that island could become a house somewhere, it’d be pretty cool. lol.
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posted on
11/04/2012 4:15:44 PM PST
by
GeronL
(http://asspos.blogspot.com)
To: Charles Martel
Reportedly, Enterprise is the most favored name, followed by Saratoga, Lexington, Hornet, Wasp, and Guadalcanal.
Wasp is already hanging on an LHD (although one that will retire long before the final ship of the Ford class is commissioned), and Guadalcanal is more befitting of an America-class LHA.
My preference, in order, would be Enterprise, Lexington, Yorktown, Ranger, Hornet, Saratoga, Bunker Hill (for after CG-54 retires) and Intrepid. With possible substitutions of Essex, Wasp, BonHomme Richard and Midway and Coral Sea (the first three to follow the decommissioning of the LHDs currently bearing the names)
Now here's the part that really puts it all into perspective. The 10-ship Ford Class are intended to replace the Enterprise and the first nine Nimitzes (so the final Ford will replace the USS Ronald Reagan). At a build rate of one every five years and a 50-year lifespan that means the final Ford commissions in 2060 and will retire in ... 2110. 98 years from now. Of course when that happens there will probably be a flyover by flight of USAF B-52s ...
To: GeronL
———Although if that island could become a house somewhere-——
It would be a super cool exhibit at the Museum Of Naval Aviation in Pensacola.
May be the Enterprise Auto rental guy can save it too.
His company is named for the Enterprise and he built a major exhibit hall down there.
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posted on
11/04/2012 4:32:29 PM PST
by
bert
((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
To: aomagrat
My squadron deployed on the Enterprise during the same period of time. We probably saw each other on the mess deck at least a couple times. Course, most black shoes didn’t care to fraternize with air wing <-:
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posted on
11/04/2012 4:38:13 PM PST
by
mr_griz
To: Sub-Driver
USS Enterprise the world's first nuclear powered Aircraft Carrier.
To: Sub-Driver
No more famous name in the US Navy than Enterprise. Especially the WW2 Enterprise. Fought in virtually every naval battle in the Pacific. A hero ship America should never forget its name. I can’t believe how stupid it was to make her into razor blades, should it have survived it would be the foremost WW2 attraction. It would be a crying shame for this retiring nuke Carrier to be the last to carry that illustrious name.
To: Charles Martel
I want to see another Enterprise. And a Yorktown...Intrepid, you get the idea.
I am sick of having our ships named after politicians, at least carriers.
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posted on
11/04/2012 6:28:28 PM PST
by
rlmorel
(1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
To: freedumb2003
You’re welcome but honest...I had it SO easy compared to the kids who serve today. I didn’t have to deal with the PC BS, didn’t have to go to war with ROEs that put me at risk, didn’t have to deal with half the crap the kids do today.
The troopers today are REAL heroes...God bless them....
To: Sub-Driver
The Enterprise was a great ship from the days when even liberals respected great Americans. Today?
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posted on
11/05/2012 12:32:53 AM PST
by
Pollster1
(Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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