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Queens residents arm themselves in the post-storm blackout from looters
NY Daily News ^ | 11/2/12 | Clare Trapasso , Mark Morales AND Corky Siemaszko

Posted on 11/03/2012 7:08:10 AM PDT by Kartographer

Ever since Sandy strafed the Queens peninsula and tore up the boardwalk, it’s become an often lawless place where cops are even scarcer than electrical power and food. Locals say they are arming themselves with guns, baseball bats, booby traps — even a bow and arrow — to defend against looters. Thugs have been masquerading as Long Island Power Authority (LIPA) workers, knocking on doors in the dead of night. But locals say the real workers have been nowhere in sight, causing at least one elected official — who fears a descent into anarchy if help doesn’t arrive soon — to call for the city to investigate the utility.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; bluezones; looters; nyc; personaldefense; sandy; shtf; urban; weapons
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MARK MORALES/NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Keone Singlehurst, 42, who lives in a bungalow on Beach 87th Street in the Rockaways, says he wouldn't hesitate to use a bow on a looter.

1 posted on 11/03/2012 7:08:14 AM PDT by Kartographer
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To: metmom; Marcella; Old Sarge; blam; The Duke; WakeUpAndVote; JRandomFreeper; Bride Of Old Sarge; ...

PING!!!


2 posted on 11/03/2012 7:10:02 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Is a compound bow classified as an “assault weapon” in NYC?


3 posted on 11/03/2012 7:11:47 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Kartographer

Don’t tell Gloomberg. He’ll send out a detail of cops to arrest these people.


4 posted on 11/03/2012 7:12:27 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Kartographer

This storm just keeps on giving. If this isn’t a teachable moment, then these people are beyond educating.

It ain’t your fat nanny politician who will save your butt when the wolf is at the door.


5 posted on 11/03/2012 7:12:34 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Kartographer
FTA: -who fears a descent into anarchy if help doesn’t arrive soon-

Wonder how they know the difference when anarchy arrives, at least in some parts of the area?

6 posted on 11/03/2012 7:12:59 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: DTogo

Bad for him he is on DHS watch list for sure now!


7 posted on 11/03/2012 7:13:05 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
Thugs have been masquerading as Long Island Power Authority (LIPA) workers, knocking on doors in the dead of night. But locals say the real workers have been nowhere in sight, causing at least one elected official — who fears a descent into anarchy if help doesn’t arrive soon — to call for the city to investigate the utility.

Gee, things have been going soooo well since Mario Cuomo "necessarily bankrupted" LILCO. How'd that work out for ya, Lawn Guyland? They deserve to live in the dark for having elected the first Cuomo.

8 posted on 11/03/2012 7:14:43 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Obama: Brought to you by the letter "O" and the number 16 trillion.)
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To: Kartographer
"...he wouldn't hesitate to use a bow on a looter."

While certainly better than nothing, the problem is not going to be "a looter" but "looters." You'd like to think enough people would wake up that NY would repeal some of its senseless, futile infringements on the Second Amendment, but probably not.

Still, it's probably like the two backpackers who encounter an enraged Grizzly bear. They both drop their packs, but the one begins to furiously shed his hiking boots and put on a pair of running shoes. His partner says, "You don't seriously think you're going to outrun that bear do you?" to which he replies, "I only have to outrun you."

Looters are criminals, and like water, will follow the path of least resistance. A man with a bow will be a much less desireable target than a woman with a butter knife.

9 posted on 11/03/2012 7:16:43 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Kartographer
When seconds count....the police are only minutes away.

. When diaster strikes....help from the government is only months away.

When terrorists strike....kiss your ass goodbye.

10 posted on 11/03/2012 7:16:57 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: dirtboy

Doomberg would not even let the NG be requested in because he only wanted the police to be armed. People like him are a menace to freedom and liberty. He would rather have a homeowner speared by a looter than have the ability to take out the vermin. As far as I am concerned, they can take people like Doomberg and lautenberg in NJ and dump them at sea with the next garbage scow headed that way.


11 posted on 11/03/2012 7:17:28 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: DTogo
Is a compound bow classified as an “assault weapon” in NYC?

A 16oz. Slurpee is considered an assault weapon in NYC.

12 posted on 11/03/2012 7:18:47 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: Kartographer
For those who've been disarmed by the nannies :


             

.. when sunk into a skull, struggling ceases quite shortly.


(either end will do nicely)

13 posted on 11/03/2012 7:18:59 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: DTogo

A straw from McDonald’s is considered an assault weapon in NYC.


14 posted on 11/03/2012 7:20:28 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Kartographer

Bloomie said a cell phone near your bed is better than a gun. Cops should arrive in, oh, I dunno, half hour give or take.


15 posted on 11/03/2012 7:20:52 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church shows up at your funeral)
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To: Kartographer

I grew up in Queens, I remember the blackout of 1977. The Lebanese store owners showed up with lawn chairs and long guns and no one messed with their store.


16 posted on 11/03/2012 7:21:06 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Obama: Brought to you by the letter "O" and the number 16 trillion.)
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To: SkyDancer

half hour after the body has gone cold maybe


17 posted on 11/03/2012 7:22:10 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Steamburg

“This storm just keeps on giving. If this isn’t a teachable moment, then these people are beyond educating.”

Regrettably, most of them -are- (”beyond educating”, that is).

“Teachable moments” only work when the population has the ability to learn...


18 posted on 11/03/2012 7:22:34 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: Joe 6-pack

This article is a perfect example of why us preppers call the need for assault weapons.

Not even a hunting rifle can be relied upon if a dozen “looters” come after you and your family.

We need — and have a God-given, inalienable right — to defend ourselves against being senselessly slaughtered.


19 posted on 11/03/2012 7:23:03 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: T-Bird45

Saw this report about a school that is a shelter that will ALSO have children returning to class. Peeing in water fountion, human excrement under tables, etc. Must see!
http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/171752/ny1-exclusive—poor-conditions-at-high-school-serving-as-evacuation-shelter


20 posted on 11/03/2012 7:23:27 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: Kartographer
...who fears a descent into anarchy if help doesn’t arrive soon ...

It's always the "liberal" areas that descend into anarchy. NOLA did it after Katrina, while Mississippi got to work taking care of each other, then ourselves.

21 posted on 11/03/2012 7:23:55 AM PDT by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: tomkat
Call me old school
22 posted on 11/03/2012 7:24:02 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Kartographer

Slouching towards Sarajevo...


23 posted on 11/03/2012 7:25:42 AM PDT by Noumenon (“The other side wants everything in America to be free, except us.” -- Paul Ryan)
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To: All

Now that’s something...A right handed guy with a left handed bow.....


24 posted on 11/03/2012 7:25:53 AM PDT by JW1949
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To: Kartographer

I’m thinking maybe anarchy is only a day away.


25 posted on 11/03/2012 7:26:52 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church shows up at your funeral)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
"This article is a perfect example of why us preppers call the need for assault weapons."

It didn't even have to come to this. The national trend to home invasion type robberies prior to Sandy demonstrates a need for high cap mags and/or military based weapons.

Of course, barring the need for such things, the 2nd Amendment enshrines the right, regardless of need.

26 posted on 11/03/2012 7:27:03 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

How did Mario Cuomo “necessarily bankrupt” LILCO?


27 posted on 11/03/2012 7:27:51 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Gadsden1st

Sounds more like a OWS camp than a school or a shelter and will more than likely devolve into one shortly, just need a few rapes come Monday to finish.


28 posted on 11/03/2012 7:27:58 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Joe 6-pack
While certainly better than nothing, the problem is not going to be "a looter" but "looters."

Let me tell you something ... if a group of looters breaks into this guy's house and one of them gets an arrow through the torso or skull, I'm going to bet you that the rest are going to scatter like rats.

Personally, I think the best weapon for any kind of defense (other than a firearm) is a bottle of hornet spray and a lighter. Think of what happens when you use a can of hair spray and hold a lighter in front of it ... except that with this in hand, the flame that is produced is not a cloud, but a narrow cone that can be aimed and concentrated in a small area. It's all in the way the hornet spray is designed to kill hornets in a nest without forcing you to get any closer than 25+ feet away.

Click Here

I can just imagine how a "Redneck meets NYC Looter" scene might unfold in one of those outer boroughs.

29 posted on 11/03/2012 7:28:51 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Kartographer

How do they like New York style gun control now? The barbarians are armed to their teeth!


30 posted on 11/03/2012 7:29:05 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Road Glide
Unfortunately, the only thing these folks will do is demand more government not less.
31 posted on 11/03/2012 7:30:44 AM PDT by Average Al
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To: Alberta's Child
"Let me tell you something ... if a group of looters breaks into this guy's house and one of them gets an arrow through the torso or skull, I'm going to bet you that the rest are going to scatter like rats."

Like I said, better than nothing. However, when I hear a bump in the night, I can guarantee you the first thing I reach for is not my compound bow, because I have that option. This man may not, but he should.

32 posted on 11/03/2012 7:32:22 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: JW1949

“Now that’s something...A right handed guy with a left handed bow..”

Hey, He is from New York City. What do you expect.


33 posted on 11/03/2012 7:32:28 AM PDT by Roklok
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To: Steamburg

I wonder how the people in Rockland or Orange counties are doing; they’re more self-reliant than those in NYC, but they have a lot of power outages, less gas stations, and a lot of area to cover. I can personally drive to four supermarkets on a 2 mile round trip; up there everything is pretty scattered.

I’d imagine there will be some out-of-season hunting up there; I think the state parks are still closed anyway.


34 posted on 11/03/2012 7:34:40 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: tomkat

SOG hatchet - got one in every SHTF bag.

Nice.


35 posted on 11/03/2012 7:34:50 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: JW1949

LOL.. maybe he doesn’t realize he is cross- dominant. The only time I use my left hand dominantly is when I shoot. I am a right handed, left eye dominant. Rifles and bows left handed.. large caliber pistols are another story. Took me a couple of years to figure out why I struggled with marksmanship. Good observation on your part, though.


36 posted on 11/03/2012 7:35:19 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: Roklok

Well, that’s true....*L*


37 posted on 11/03/2012 7:35:55 AM PDT by JW1949
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
In New York one of these will chase away the looters for sure!.

38 posted on 11/03/2012 7:36:43 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: DTogo

I think anything bigger than a spork is an assault weapon in nannypanty land.

So this storm is helping Zero among independents, huh?

Where is the media sniping about the FAILURE of the response....the zero response. Yeah right...**crickets**


39 posted on 11/03/2012 7:36:52 AM PDT by Adder (Sha Nah Nah Nah Hey Hey Hey Goodbye!)
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To: momincombatboots

It was easy...I’ve been bow hunting in E Tennessee for for 50 years....*L*


40 posted on 11/03/2012 7:38:25 AM PDT by JW1949
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To: Kartographer

My tag line.


41 posted on 11/03/2012 7:39:52 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Kartographer

Bump


42 posted on 11/03/2012 7:42:15 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: dagogo redux

Ever read the book, “Malevil”, by Robert Merle


43 posted on 11/03/2012 7:43:24 AM PDT by JW1949
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To: tomkat
.. when sunk into a skull, struggling ceases quite shortly.

True enough, but then there's the matter of extraction. Bone has a tendency to grab and hold. Last thing you want in a fight is to have to call a "time out" while you place your boot on your former opponent's skull as you try to wrench your implement free.

I was taught to use the extended reach of the 'hawk to slash at vulnerable points - major veins or arteries - or better still to the face where you can inflict terrible damage to your opponent and thoroughly demoralize his remaining friends. You can also do the unexpected by letting the haft of the 'hawk slip through your hand so that your grip is just under the head, quickly step forward and deliver a smash to the face while blocking with the other arm or leg. Once you've rocked your opponents' head back then you can use the blade to hit the soft spots. Speed and aggression are your friends. 'hawks also play well in defense - there are a lot of deflecting / hooking moves you can make that lead to great offensive transitions.

I have that same model 'hawk, but with a black haft. I keep it razor sharp.

Knives are a different matter entirely. This individual has some very useful information regarding knife fighting.

44 posted on 11/03/2012 7:44:27 AM PDT by Noumenon (“The other side wants everything in America to be free, except us.” -- Paul Ryan)
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To: Kartographer

New Yorkers are so smart. Unions and gun control will take care of them.


45 posted on 11/03/2012 7:46:29 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

***I grew up in Queens, I remember the blackout of 1977.***

Remember the blackout of 1965? There was almost NO CRIME reported. So what happened between 1965 and 1977 to allow anarchy to happen?


46 posted on 11/03/2012 7:47:53 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: JW1949

I have not, but just read some reviews - sounds like it’s worth a read.


47 posted on 11/03/2012 7:48:50 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Kartographer

Stay classy, New Yorkers! (a contradiction, I realize...)


48 posted on 11/03/2012 7:48:54 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: Kartographer

Millions for Defense, but not one cent for redistribute


49 posted on 11/03/2012 7:51:03 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (Arms and the .Mman??)
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To: Adder
Where is the media sniping about the FAILURE of the response....the zero response. Yeah right...**crickets**

Add to that, most of the people who are effected by this don't have power and can't tell you what's really going on.

And they probably won't have power until after Tuesday.

50 posted on 11/03/2012 7:54:49 AM PDT by FreeReign
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