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“Vote the Bible” T-Shirt Banned In A Texas County, Called “Offensive”
Texas Values ^ | October 31, 2012 | David Walls

Posted on 10/31/2012 11:22:14 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch

Texas Values Assists Intimidated Voter Forced to Cover Up Her Religious T-Shirt Before Voting

Austin, TX, October 31, 2012–During early voting last week, a Texas voter in Williamson County was banned from wearing a t-shirt with the words “Vote the Bible” printed on the front. On October 24, Williamson County election workers at the Taylor City Hall polling place told Kay Hill that before she would be allowed to vote she had to turn her shirt inside out, go home and change, or cover up the words “Vote the Bible” because they “may be offensive to some people.”

After voicing disagreement numerous times, Ms. Hill ultimately complied and was forced to cover up the words “Vote the Bible.” Williamson County election workers provided her with an election worker’s jacket to cover up the “offensive” words. Ms. Hill later spoke with Williamson County Election Administrator Rick Barron who confirmed that the election workers could make this decision to ban the words “Vote the Bible.”

“It’s outrageous that a person of faith would be mistreated this way while trying to vote. If this isn’t voter intimidation, I don’t know what is?” said Jonathan Saenz, president of Texas Values. “We hope Williamson County officials step up and put an end to this injustice immediately. No one else should have to suffer the humiliation, embarrassment and intimidation that Ms. Hill endured. No one should be asked to give up their religious freedom in order to vote,” said Saenz.

Texas Values is assisting Ms. Hill in asking Williamson County to end this unfair policy immediately. Texas Values has also requested that Williamson County issue an apology to Ms. Hill and circulate instructions to all Williamson County election workers and polling places that it is permissible to vote while wearing a t-shirt with the words “Vote the Bible.”

Ms. Hill is prepared to file a formal complaint with the Texas Secretary of State’s office if Williamson County refuses to remedy this situation by 5 p.m. on Thursday, November 1, 2012.

View our Williamson County Complaint letter.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: abortion; antibible; antigod; bible; electioneering; elections; godlessdemocrats; kayhill; prayer; prolife; spiritofantichrist

1 posted on 10/31/2012 11:22:16 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch

Excuse me dear, but “may be offensive to some people”, is not a violation of the law and you have no authority to make such a dermination.

Your stupidity is offensive to me and nobody’s sending you home!


2 posted on 10/31/2012 11:27:49 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Do you think if I go to vote with an “Allah Fubar” t-shirt on it will escape the censors?


3 posted on 10/31/2012 11:30:08 AM PDT by Puckster ( "Neanderthals Rule")
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To: SwinneySwitch

Offensive?
No.

Electioneering/campaigning within 100’ of a polling place?
Arguably.

I’d dearly love to see anyone who feels like “Voting the Bible” is an ad against them as a candidate come forward and say so under oath.

Even in Austin...


4 posted on 10/31/2012 11:32:29 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1380 of the Obama Regime - Barack Hussein Obama an enemy BOTH foreign AND domestic)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Electioneering is not allowed at an active voting station.

A shirt with “Vote ‘Anything at all’” on it, won’t be allowed. It shouldn’t be.

Spread the word far and wide all you like prior to voting.


5 posted on 10/31/2012 11:36:32 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Resident NBC NRD N3pmCs HCR / no birth C / no req docs / no 3pm calls / he can read)
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To: SwinneySwitch

What if it had said ‘Vote the Koran’ would that have been okay?......or the Adi Granth......or the Veda?........


6 posted on 10/31/2012 11:38:18 AM PDT by Red Badger (Why yes, that was crude and uncalled for......That's why I said it..............)
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To: null and void

electioneering for who? I doubt the Bible is on the ballot


7 posted on 10/31/2012 11:39:13 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: null and void

Just so. You could argue that it doesn’t say which candidates or party to vote for. And Romney is a Mormon while Obama CLAIMS to be a Christian (falsely, but that’s arguable, too).

But it still looks to me like electioneering inside the specified limits of a polling place.


8 posted on 10/31/2012 11:39:32 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: null and void

Just so. You could argue that it doesn’t say which candidates or party to vote for. And Romney is a Mormon while Obama CLAIMS to be a Christian (falsely, but that’s arguable, too).

But it still looks to me like electioneering inside the specified limits of a polling place.


9 posted on 10/31/2012 11:39:52 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: DoughtyOne

My daughter wore her Romney Tee shirt to early voting Saturday and nobody said a thing.............


10 posted on 10/31/2012 11:40:34 AM PDT by Red Badger (Why yes, that was crude and uncalled for......That's why I said it..............)
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To: Red Badger

A few thousand people need to show up on the courthouse lawn with a Vote the Bible t-shirt on.


11 posted on 10/31/2012 11:40:36 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: SwinneySwitch

Answer:
Of course the Bible is offensive to those who are in rebellion to the one true God and want to be their own gods.


12 posted on 10/31/2012 11:45:52 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Her heart might be in the right place, but the Kingdom of God is not a democracy, such that it needs to be voted in, or for that matter could be voted out.


13 posted on 10/31/2012 11:46:14 AM PDT by Edward Teach
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To: Red Badger

I’m sure you’ll be able to point to instances like that where the election crew let something slip through, but we have to be honest with ourselves. You’re not supposed to make it through like that.


14 posted on 10/31/2012 11:46:21 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Resident NBC NRD N3pmCs HCR / no birth C / no req docs / no 3pm calls / he can read)
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To: SwinneySwitch

I find Obama’s name on the ballot to be offensive, but the DNC won’t remove it!


15 posted on 10/31/2012 11:48:33 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: SwinneySwitch
Must be Texas is not the Bible Belt anymore..
Its the Bible G-String..

16 posted on 10/31/2012 11:54:01 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: DoughtyOne

PHOENIX — A federal judge has ordered that Coconino County reisdents be allowed to wear Tea Party T-shirts when they vote next month.

But what happens elsewhere at polling places in Arizona remains in legal limbo. And it still leaves in question whether such attire is proper.

The order by U.S. District Court Judge James Teilborg specifically bars Coconino County Recorder Candace Owens or any of her election workers from blocking Diane Wickberg from voting while attired in her shirt proclaiming “Flagstaff Tea Party — Reclaiming Our Constitution Now.’’ Anyone else with the same shirt also cannot be barred from going to vote on Nov. 2.

Diane Cohen, an attorney for the Goldwater Institute which represents Wickberg, said the injunction is a preliminary victory. She said the fact the ruling legally affects only Coconino County does not mean election officials elsewhere are free to impose their own election-day clothing decisions.

http://www.yourwestvalley.com/valleyandstate/article_179fa950-dd77-11df-8815-001cc4c03286.html


17 posted on 10/31/2012 11:59:24 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: DoughtyOne

2. Content based Restrictions on Speech Permissible
Although content-based regulation of political speech in schools has been found
to be impermissible, polling places are treated differently by the Supreme Court. Due to
the long tradition of free and fair elections in this county, Americans accept and
understand that some restriction on speech on election day is important. Courts and the
American public generally agree that campaign activities can and should be regulated. In Burson v. Freeman,100 the U. S. Supreme Court held that states may reasonably regulate
the content of speech and the extent to which someone may engage in campaign activities
in the area immediately surrounding a polling place. However, the Court has never
explicitly determined whether a state may regulate the political materials worn by a voter
in a polling place.

http://law.bepress.com/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4685&context=expresso&sei-redir=1&referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dfederal%2Belection%2Blaws%2Bwearing%2Bshirt%2Bendorsing%2Bto%2Bvote%26qs%3Dn%26form%3DQBLH%26pq%3Dfederal%2Belection%2Blaws%2Bwearing%2Bshirt%2Bendorsing%2Bto%2Bvote%26sc%3D0-23%26sp%3D-1%26sk%3D#search=%22federal%20election%20laws%20wearing%20shirt%20endorsing%20vote%22


18 posted on 10/31/2012 12:05:44 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: G Larry
I'll have my jacket over the t-shirt below while standing in line at the polling station.

But the jacket comes off before I leave the voting booth and walk out...

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19 posted on 10/31/2012 12:10:23 PM PDT by moovova (If someone is still "undecided", they're not really undecided. They're just chronically perplexed.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Time to start bringing the K-bar to the polls when voting... just in case the booth has gotten overgrown and difficult to access. You could still hack a path in through the undergrowth.

8^D

20 posted on 10/31/2012 12:10:43 PM PDT by Gargantua ("Barbie O'Bunga ~ America's First Fly-Strewn, Maggot-Gagging Fag President")
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To: SwinneySwitch

These LYING election workers have no such right whatsoever and I wish it would have been me. I would have had them arrested for voter intimidation and more as well as the primary charge of inciting rebellion against the United States and texas Constitution for the absolute right to speech and religion...#’s 1 and 2.

Liberal progressives need to be jailed when they do this, their jailhouse faces put up on billboards and warnings issued to all!


21 posted on 10/31/2012 12:11:34 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Since the Tea Party is not an official political party, doesn’t run candidates under it’s own name, I can see allowing the shirt. A person could wear an SEIU shirt for the same reason.

I will admit though, Christians don’t run candidates under the Christian party either.

The problem may be as simple as this.

“Vote for...”

Wear a shirt saying “I love Jesus” for instance, probably wouldn’t be a problem. “Vote Jesus”, probably would be.

Vote SEIU, or vote Tea Party, probably would be a problem.


22 posted on 10/31/2012 12:13:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Resident NBC NRD N3pmCs HCR / no birth C / no req docs / no 3pm calls / he can read)
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To: G Larry

Easily arguable as electioneering within a polling place.


23 posted on 10/31/2012 12:14:06 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Osama's dead... and so is our ambassador - Coulter.)
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To: GeronL
Depends on who the candidates were on that ballot.

If the shirt said, "Vote the Book of Mormon," are you telling me that wouldn't be seen as a Romney tee shirt?

24 posted on 10/31/2012 12:16:49 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Osama's dead... and so is our ambassador - Coulter.)
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To: newzjunkey

“Easily” eh?

Are you suggesting Obama is not a Christian or doesn’t believe in the Bible?


25 posted on 10/31/2012 12:19:13 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Here is an example of “electioneering” law exemptions:

14.05 Exemptions
The following shall be exempted from the coverage of this ordinance:

Nonpartisan Statements or Signage. Statements and signage expressing positions on public policy issues that are generally considered to be nonpartisan shall not be deemed to be electioneering. Examples include but are not limited to “Support Our Troops”, “God Bless America”, “Don’t Steal - The Government Hates Competition”, “If You Can Read This, Thank a Teacher”, “Peace is Patriotic”, “Member Local 12345 AFL-CIO”, “and Caution! Former Fetus At Wheel”, “War is Never the Answer”, “I’m Pro-Choice and I Vote”, and “Vegetarian: Indian Word for Lousy Hunter”.

http://townwilson.com/Files/Ordinances/ch14.pdf


26 posted on 10/31/2012 12:25:58 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (People will vote for Obama to replace a god that they don't believe in)
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To: newzjunkey

Is there a Mike Bible running for State Senate or something?

lol

If it was “VOTE ISLAM” do you think they would flag it?


27 posted on 10/31/2012 12:28:57 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: DoughtyOne

The article was about “Vote the Bible”, which as far as I can tell is not a candidate or political party, therefore should be allowed, right?


28 posted on 10/31/2012 12:29:27 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: DoughtyOne
It shouldn’t be.

Well, bub, I think it SHOULD be. So THERE ! ! !
29 posted on 10/31/2012 12:29:40 PM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine .)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Austin is the Texas city where the UN poll watchers are supposed to be watching for voter intimidation.

Hope they try it and get arrested as Perry has declared.


30 posted on 10/31/2012 12:34:21 PM PDT by agondonter
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To: G Larry
Are you suggesting Obama is not a Christian or doesn’t believe in the Bible?

What was your first clue?

31 posted on 10/31/2012 12:36:22 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SwinneySwitch

The reason given was bogus but banning the shirt was legit. No political endorsements or statements are permitted within the polling area if I remember correctly.


32 posted on 10/31/2012 12:47:15 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Hey, where’s the UN monitors and hussein’s voter intimidateion lawyers???


33 posted on 10/31/2012 1:09:10 PM PDT by bgill (Evil doers are in every corner of our government. Have we passed the point of no return?)
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To: agondonter

Austin is in Travis county and there are several very conservative areas within the county. I live in one that will be over 75% R/R on Nov 6th. Taylor is in Williamson county that is normally considered very right leaning. I hated to move from that county back into Travis, but the drug problem at the elementary school in our neighborhood made us move. BTW, Taylor has a very high African - American population.


34 posted on 10/31/2012 1:15:07 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 ("It's better to vote for a Republican you don't know than wind up with a dim you don't like".)
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To: SwinneySwitch


35 posted on 10/31/2012 1:34:35 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Austin further left than Berkeley.


36 posted on 10/31/2012 1:57:44 PM PDT by boomop1 (term limits will only save this country.)
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To: DoughtyOne

See post #26, DO.


37 posted on 10/31/2012 3:13:33 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Follow the money on both sides of the border.)
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To: GeronL
Is there a Mike Bible running for State Senate or something?

Forgot about that one!;^{ We used to have some Bibles living near us.

38 posted on 10/31/2012 3:37:42 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Follow the money on both sides of the border.)
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To: VeniVidiVici; SwinneySwitch

Thanks for the list and link VeniVidiVici. Thank you too SwinneySwitch, for pointing this post out to me.

On California’s ballot right now, are at least two propositions that stand to directly impact union members.

Propositions #30 & #38 both address raising taxes to be spent specifically on schools. And granted, that’s only if you agree with the premise, which I don’t.

Guess what happens if we raise $5 billion through taxes. Even if they keep their word and spend that on schools, guess what happens to $5 billion in the budget. It can be diverted elsewhere with zero impact on schools. These guys are slicker than snot on a door knob.

Okay, what if someone walks into a polling station with a shirt that says, “Vote SEIU!” Isn’t that electioneering? I would certainly see it that way with initiatives on the ballot directly impacting union employees.

What if another Homosexual Marriage proposition were on the ballet? Wouldn’t “Vote the Bible” be seen as an advocacy to vote with Christ’s teachings, and against the ballot measure allowing Homosexual Marriage on an equal footing with Heterosexual Marriage?

I just don’t see the need to express opinions in the polling place. I want those places to be (in effect) demilitarized zones.

Let’s say you’re 82 years old, and you want to vote. You’re a Christian and you’re trying to do your civic duty. How would you like to walk into a polling station past 50 people outside wearing “Vote Homosexual” shirts? Then you walk inside and everyone is wearing the same shirt, and some of them look rather menacing? So do the folks outside.

Should this older person have to walk a gauntlet to vote?

What if one of the people outside recognizes her as a Christian, and tips others off?

That’s just not the atmosphere I want to foster at our polling stations.

“Vote the Bible” is a great slogan. I just don’t think it’s something we need to wear into the polling station. And if we’re going to do that, then the Left can game the system and will.


39 posted on 10/31/2012 3:52:53 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Resident NBC NRD N3pmCs HCR / no birth C / no req docs / no 3pm calls / he can read)
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To: righttackle44; ilovesarah2012

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2952864/posts?page=39#39


40 posted on 10/31/2012 3:57:31 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Resident NBC NRD N3pmCs HCR / no birth C / no req docs / no 3pm calls / he can read)
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To: DoughtyOne

The problem is that WE always acquiesce. Character, principle, dumbassness, whatever. Call it what you will but the Left and its minions run roughshod over us and will continue to do so until we play the game by their rules.

VOTE SEIU will always be allowed.

VOTE BIBLE will never be allowed.

If we continue down this same path.


41 posted on 10/31/2012 5:00:28 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (People will vote for Obama to replace a god that they don't believe in)
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To: VeniVidiVici

I would suggest that you and I don’t live a litigious lifestyle. That’s where they have us. They take every little thing to court.

If we played by the rules they play by, we would not only bankrupt the ACLU, but every employee, and every abortion clinic.

It wouldn’t take long to get university staff half Republican half Democrat if we filed suit.

We should attack everything we don’t like, just like they do. We could run them out of business in short order.


42 posted on 10/31/2012 5:06:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Resident NBC NRD N3pmCs HCR / no birth C / no req docs / no 3pm calls / he can read)
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To: DoughtyOne
The problem may be as simple as this.

“Vote for...”


Bingo....the word "Bible" was not the problem.


43 posted on 11/01/2012 7:47:17 AM PDT by TexanByBirth (Free Republic: where they may agree with the message, but they love to shoot the messenger!)
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To: TexanByBirth

Thanks TexanByBirth.


44 posted on 11/01/2012 9:37:54 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Resident NBC NRD N3pmCs HCR / no birth C / no req docs / no 3pm calls / he can read)
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To: SwinneySwitch
America - "land of the free".

Yeah, maybe 50 years ago!

45 posted on 11/01/2012 9:40:53 AM PDT by mtg
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