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LYONS: Obama needs to come clean on what happened in Benghazi (retired SEAL admiral)
Washington Times ^ | Oct 28, 2012 | James A. Lyons, USN (ret)

Posted on 10/29/2012 6:32:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee

There is an urgent need for full disclosure of what has become the “Benghazi Betrayal and Cover-up.” The Obama national security team, including CIA, DNI and the Pentagon, apparently watched and listened to the assault on the U.S. consulate and cries for help but did nothing. If someone had described a fictional situation with a similar scenario and described our leadership ignoring the pleas for help, I would have said it was not realistic—not in my America – but I would have been proven wrong.

We now know why Ambassador Christopher Stevens had to be in Benghazi the night of 9/11 to meet a Turkish representative, even though he feared for his safety. According to various reports, one of Stevens’ main missions in Libya was to facilitate the transfer of much of Gadhafi’s military equipment, including the deadly SA-7 – portable SAMs – to Islamists and other al Qaeda-affiliated groups fighting the Assad Regime in Syria. In an excellent article, Aaron Klein states that Stevens routinely used our Benghazi consulate (mission) to coordinate the Turkish, Saudi Arabian and Qatari governments’ support for insurgencies throughout the Middle East. Further, according to Egyptian security sources, Stevens played a “central role in recruiting Islamic jihadists to fight the Assad Regime in Syria.”

In another excellent article, Clare Lopez at noted that there were two large warehouse-type buildings associated with our Benghazi mission. During the terrorist attack, the warehouses were probably looted. We do not know what was there and if it was being administrated by our two former Navy SEALs and the CIA operatives who were in Benghazi. Nonetheless, the equipment was going to hardline jihadis.

(read the rest of the damning article at the link.)

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benghazi; navyseals; seals; shadowwars; threatmatrix

1 posted on 10/29/2012 6:32:54 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: MestaMachine; Jeff Head
"The Obama national security team, including CIA, DNI, State Department and the Pentagon, watched and listened to the assault but did nothing to answer repeated calls for assistance. It has been reported that President Obama met with Vice President Joseph R. Biden and Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta in the Oval Office, presumably to see what support could be provided. After all, we had very credible military resources within striking distance. At our military base in Sigonella, Sicily, which is slightly over 400 miles from Benghazi, we had a fully equipped Special Forces unit with both transport and jet strike aircraft prepositioned. Certainly this was a force much more capable than the 22-man force from our embassy in Tripoli.

"I know those Special Forces personnel were ready to leap at the opportunity. There is no doubt in my mind they would have wiped out the terrorists attackers. Also I have no doubt that Admiral William McRaven, Commander of U.S. Special Operations Command, would have had his local commander at Sigonella ready to launch; however, apparently he was countermanded—by whom? We need to know.

"I also understand we had a C-130 gunship available, which would have quickly disposed of the terrorist attackers. This attack went on for seven hours. Our fighter jets could have been at our Benghazi mission within an hour. Our Special Forces out of Sigonella could have been there within a few hours. There is not any doubt that action on our part could have saved the lives of our two former Navy SEALs and possibly the ambassador."

2 posted on 10/29/2012 6:37:23 AM PDT by Travis McGee (
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To: Travis McGee

Good keep hitting this fraud in the WH. Don’t let Sandy make headlines all week. What BS.

3 posted on 10/29/2012 6:38:46 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Travis McGee

I am reminded of the movie THE ROCK, a work of fiction of course, where a group of troops are abandoned by their command.

Similarly in Clear and Present Danger.

and Shooter.

It is ALWAYS portrayed as worthless politicians letting good men die. ... and revenge IS extracted.

4 posted on 10/29/2012 6:41:49 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Blueflag

100s of military officers and special operators know EXACTLY what happened.

I want some of them to come forward now, before the election.

5 posted on 10/29/2012 6:50:02 AM PDT by Travis McGee (
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To: Travis McGee; maggief; onyx; penelopesire; SE Mom; thouworm; LucyT; stephenjohnbanker; MinuteGal

Thanks Travis.....More details.

6 posted on 10/29/2012 6:54:07 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: Travis McGee; Jeff Head; ASA Vet; BIGLOOK; LonePalm; Ernest_at_the_Beach; STARWISE; Jim Robinson

Travis, thanks for posting this. I’m adding one of your earlier postings which explains how our military has planned and trained for events like what happened.

The procedures our SpecOps, Navy, Air Force and Army set up to rescue endangered Embassy personnel have been around for decades. They get refined and updated as our Spec Ops and their backups obtain better equipment, faster/better humint and elint.

Our military was ready and waiting for their authorization from our Faux POTUS, the traitor in the Outhouse, which never came.

Obozo refused to pull the pin and authorize the rescue. He went to bed to prepare for a hard fund raising trip to Vegas.

Then, he and his evil minions lied and good Americans died.

Below is the link to Travis’s explanation of how this would work unless the POTUS Traitor doesn’t authorize the final actions.

Now I was only a LT for 5 years active duty in NavSpecWar, but it was imprinted deeply upon my brain that ONLY the POTUS can give cross-border permission. Probably a million living ex-military officers know this like they know 2+2=4. This Benghazi fiasco is Obama’s baby 100% and there is no way for him to wiggle out.

The system is designed to ENSURE that when a crisis is happening, (and a missing ambassador with a consulate under attack is “Crisis Level Infinity”), and military assets are already charging in to the rescue, the president must be in the loop to grant the the cross-border authorization.

Nobody else can do this. This one formality must be followed, “just put your intitials here, Mr. President, for history,” so to speak. Boiler plate, but it must be done.

(Can you imagine Reagan or either Bush saying “No. Cross border permission not granted. Stop the rescue. Stand down.”)

The POTUS has to tell the Sec. State and JCS, “Yes, do it, execute the rescue, cross the borders.” Then it WILL happen, without delay, since the military is already on the way, flying in from all directions toward Benghazi.

But if POTUS says at 5pm DC time, “No military action, no crossing the border,” and then he becomes “unavailable,” then his last standing order stands until he changes it.

So if he went to bed, for example, nobody could change his standing orders.

I imagine that a lot of extreme military, CIA and State Dept. craziness was going down while Obama was sleeping. Aircraft must be told proceed, or return to base, or they fall from the sky. I imagine many HEATED arguments around the globe on phone, text and email, subject, “Well wake the damn president up!” Followed by, “I can’t! You MUST stand down the mission!”

Just imagine dozens of inbound planes, jets and helos. Ships moving at full speed into position to be “lilypads” for long-range over-water helo refueling. Airborne refueling tankers all head to the area. It’s a complicated ballet. The Pentagon is wide awake, the military is on full alert. The rescue is in process, from the first minutes after the alarm.

Everybody in all the planes and involved HQs knows how many minutes/miles to the Libyan border, Benghazi, and their “bingo fuel” moment, when they must turn around or run dry and crash. Ships can “loiter,” but planes fall from the sky.

So you can imagine why General Ham of Africom was relieved for refusing to stand down. He probably KNEW Obama was “unavailable,” and was screaming over the phone, “Well, wake him up, dammit!!”

Planes and jets and helicopters and ships and commando teams are zooming all around the central Med, keying in on Benghazi——

And in that environment, OBAMA WAS ASLEEP AND UNREACHABLE!!!!! Resting up for Las Vegas! With a MISSING AMBASSADOR, in Al-Queadatown!

Anybody not furious is a vegetable.

Grampa Dave’s closing comments: Anyone not furious about this, is an A$$hole and doesn’t belong on this site.

7 posted on 10/29/2012 7:07:21 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
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To: Travis McGee


8 posted on 10/29/2012 7:07:32 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: Travis McGee

I recall the retired “special operator” officer who called in to Rush on Friday last week.

He was aghast and dismayed. And perhaps a bit fatalistic - knowing he had put himself at some risk by telling the truth in public to Rush.

I fear for him, as domestic enemies will not be pleased with his actions.

9 posted on 10/29/2012 7:09:38 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Travis McGee

WE are gun-running for al queda/islamists??!!

10 posted on 10/29/2012 7:10:14 AM PDT by battletank
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To: Travis McGee
LYONS: Obama needs to come clean on what happened in Benghazi (retired SEAL admiral)

I'm sure the Admiral isn't realistically expecting Baraq Hussin 0bama to "come clean" about anything. Everything out of 0bama's mouth is a lie and if he ever really cam clean, he would be immediately impeached and tried for TREASON!

11 posted on 10/29/2012 7:16:45 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ( For AMERICA's sake: Vote for the Mormon, NOT the muslim; The Capitalist, NOT the Communist! FUBO!)
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To: Travis McGee; hoosiermama; LibLieSlayer; RedMDer; DJ MacWoW; trisham; musicman; TheOldLady; ...

Thanks very much, TravisMcGee and hoosiermama.

A much respected Admiral. Pay attention, everyone.

I’ve sent the Washington Times link to my e-mail list.

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To: Grampa Dave

Right on grampa!!

13 posted on 10/29/2012 8:02:12 AM PDT by willibeaux (de ole Korean War vet age 82)
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To: battletank; Travis McGee
WE are gun-running for al queda/islamists??!!

This surprises you, Battle Tank? "We've" been running guns to, and importing drugs from, the cartels in Mexico for the duration of the O'bambi _res_ _ency.

So why shouldn't the traitor (TINC) run guns to his beloved mozlim brotherhood? And "finish before the call to prayer."

</disgust at the zer0>

14 posted on 10/29/2012 8:14:43 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Travis McGee

I give the Washington Times credit for having a conscience and covering this story. Not a lot of credit, because it’s their job!

15 posted on 10/29/2012 8:53:37 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Travis McGee

You had an ambassador and communication professional (Smith) who were guarded by the ‘February 17th Martyrs Brigade’.

Were they trafficking heavy arms to Syria? Probably. We’re they doing something hinky? Definitely.

Was what they were doing likely the province of the CIA? Most definitely.

Had people, including Stevens, raised alarm bells about the lack of security? Yup!

Was the CIA looking in on outright incompetence, while literally within earshot of rifle fire? Yes!

This all display Obama’s ideology, long held paranoia and bias world view. I’m sure Obama and his people thought what Steven’s was doing was sexy, because it was risky. Of coarse, a leftist can’t trust rank and file CIA, right? The CIA killed Che, Obama’s hero, Obama is the self styled Che of the new Islamic caliphate.

Again, you can’t trust the CIA, that is until your getting your ass shot off in a third world hell hole and your leftist party friends leave you for dead.

Stevens and Smith were expendable to Obama, but they weren’t expendable to Woods and Doherty.

16 posted on 10/29/2012 8:58:12 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Travis McGee
FR is driving me crazy. Can hardly get here, but when I do, I read...and go a little more crazy.

17 posted on 10/29/2012 10:28:09 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: MestaMachine
Is there anyway to change the left side bar to read: Only an immoral monster. Now it reads moral monster.

18 posted on 10/30/2012 8:49:10 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
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To: Grampa Dave

It is a quote from this article:

Benghazi, Libya—Biopsy From a Malignant, Failed Presidency

After much WH disinformation, we now know a great deal of damning information about what actually happened (key video): The fight raged for 7 hours; the WH knew there was no video protest; Ambassador Stevens asked repeatedly for more security, including the day of the attack; the WH had a live feed for 5 hours of the firefight; there was a CIA safe house 1 mile down the road; A nearby US base was 480 miles away—Sigonella Naval Air Station in Sicily, Italy; Former Navy SEALS at the nearby (1 mile) CIA annex asked three times if they could help Stevens and were told repeatedly to “stand down”; several agents finally volunteered to aid Stevens and ended up dying; that a Delta Force Team, designated a secret tier-one counter-terrorism team, was at Sigonella, at most 2 hours away; a US Military AC-130h-Specter Gunship was already in Benghazi but not sent to rescue Stevens (gunships mission: “close air support, air interdiction and armed reconnaissance”); that a strike was organized, the terrorists located, but the mission canceled when Barack did not have the nerve to pull the trigger.

It is undoubtedly worse than Obama simply turned his back on cornered American citizens in a foreign land, knowing undoubtedly they would die. But that Barack did so without any compelling reason—except political—is beyond evil. Only a moral monster would have made that decision when it was within his powers to possibly save them with almost no effort of his own.

19 posted on 10/30/2012 10:31:04 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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