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State Dept: Texas canít arrest international election observers
Washington Examiner ^ | October 26, 2012 | Joel Gehrke

Posted on 10/26/2012 4:02:02 PM PDT by Snuph

International election observers planning to visit Texas polling places have “full immunity” from being arrested in the United States, the State Department said when discussing a letter from the Texas Attorney General.

“I’m not going to get into any kind of hypothetical situations or predict where this is going to go other than to say we have every expectation that this will be worked out and to state the fact, which is that under U.S. law they are eligible for immunities,” said State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland. Reporters tried to get her to state explicitly that Texas could not arrest election observers from the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), but Nuland would only reiterate that OSCE observers have full immunity.

Attorney General Greg Abbott, R-Texas, warned OSCE that it “may be a criminal offense for OSCE’s representatives to maintain a presence within 100 feet of a polling place’s entrance,” as The Hill noted.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: diplomaticimmunity; dontmesswithtexas; gregabbott; marxistbrotherhood; osce; projectvote; statedept; texas; victorianuland; votefraud
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1 posted on 10/26/2012 4:02:05 PM PDT by Snuph
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To: Snuph
Call, Victoria.

Lay those cards on the table.

Let's us dance.

/johnny

3 posted on 10/26/2012 4:04:25 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Snuph

We’ll see how this turns out.


4 posted on 10/26/2012 4:04:35 PM PDT by panzerkamphwageneinz
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To: Snuph

What, we can’t arrest them?

Well then, let’s shoot the commie bastards!


5 posted on 10/26/2012 4:05:09 PM PDT by greene66
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To: Snuph
Maybe, maybe NOT.. I wonder if taking them into custody, and dragging them away is covered? ....Developing
6 posted on 10/26/2012 4:05:24 PM PDT by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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To: Snuph

Just because they have “diplomatic immunity” doesn’t mean that Texas officials are obliged to let them go wherever they like, afaik.


7 posted on 10/26/2012 4:05:37 PM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (Gingrich or bust! (5/7/12, I guess it's bust.))
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To: IrishPennant

The State Department can pound sand.


8 posted on 10/26/2012 4:05:42 PM PDT by oldtimer
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To: Snuph

Im sure there are other ways to ensure these “monitors” don’t interfere with Texas law, like being filmed at all times by the state police.


9 posted on 10/26/2012 4:06:07 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Snuph

So what, give them their get out of jail free card and they get out on Wednesday


10 posted on 10/26/2012 4:06:09 PM PDT by Figment
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To: IrishPennant

So what happens if they just “get lost” in jail till Wednesday?


11 posted on 10/26/2012 4:06:31 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Snuph

Sure they can and they should! I am getting a little sick of the federal government.


12 posted on 10/26/2012 4:07:08 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Snuph

I still want to know why these observers are not in Shitcargo or Detroit? Hey how about a few in Philadelphia?

A second question. What enforcement authority does the State Department have? Suppose Rick Perry tells Hillabitch Clintdog to go play with herself?


13 posted on 10/26/2012 4:07:30 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: Snuph

The obvious tactic here is as follows:

You arrest the perps. Remove them from the polling place. 10 minutes after the polls close, you “realize your horrible error”, release them.

As far as immunity goes, surely our freedoms under 1st amendment trump some foreigner? How is that working out for the videographer in CA?


14 posted on 10/26/2012 4:07:40 PM PDT by RedElement
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To: Snuph

So, will Obama send in Federal troops to violate State law and support foreign interference in the elections? That will go over big /s.


15 posted on 10/26/2012 4:07:41 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Snuph

Texas Rangers versus the Federal Marshalls.

It’ll be a good one! Million dollar pay for view opportunity.

Go Texas!


16 posted on 10/26/2012 4:07:45 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Snuph

17 posted on 10/26/2012 4:07:57 PM PDT by klimeckg ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.")
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To: Snuph

“Immunity” never stopped a good old-fashioned azz-whoopin’.


18 posted on 10/26/2012 4:08:43 PM PDT by lightman (If the Patriarchate of the East held a state like the Vatican I would apply for political asylum.)
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To: Snuph
I was once appointed as an election observer by the local GOP committee. The Democrat hack running the assigned polling place refused to seat me because I did not have an observer certificate with a raised seal, just a plain seal. I had to drive back to GOP hq. to get a certificate with a RAISED seal.

Let Texas play the same type of game with the UN Observers. Tell them to drive to Foggy Bottom and come back with the right type of certificate.

19 posted on 10/26/2012 4:08:58 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Snuph

W’all now... Las tahm Ah looked, Texas has an international border with Messico, so A’ll tell ya whut we’re agunna do. We won’ arrest them furriners, we’ll jes escort ‘em to the Rio and point’em south.


20 posted on 10/26/2012 4:08:58 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: Snuph
no such thing... they are not diplomats and if they break the law they can be arrested
21 posted on 10/26/2012 4:10:06 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: RedElement

Indeed. No matter what ID or credentials they have it must still be verified. That can take some time.


22 posted on 10/26/2012 4:10:43 PM PDT by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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To: Snuph

I read a very interesting book recently, “Patriots”. It is a novel discussing the coming financial collapse and the repercussions that might be expected. It, along with “One Second After”, are eye-opening books about the fragility of our civilization.


23 posted on 10/26/2012 4:10:43 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Snuph
diplomatic immunity is grant to foreign officials and it covers the performance of their duties, not traveling to a distant city interfere with domestic affairs,,,
24 posted on 10/26/2012 4:10:55 PM PDT by B212
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To: greene66
Oh oh.. maybe we should take them into PROTECTIVE CUSTODY, for perhaps, ..a.. 24 hours?.. jus say'n ..:)
25 posted on 10/26/2012 4:11:09 PM PDT by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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To: Snuph

I guess down in Texas they will have to call it “detained,” then. Hehehe. Detained, taken to the airport, and sent packing back to wherever their passport says they’re from. And charged to the State Department too. LOL!


26 posted on 10/26/2012 4:11:13 PM PDT by Jeff Head ( Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Snuph

Really? Is this the State Depts next priority?


27 posted on 10/26/2012 4:11:13 PM PDT by uncitizen (Treason is the Reason for the Season)
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To: Snuph

Sounds like another Fort Sumpter to me.


28 posted on 10/26/2012 4:11:25 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Fai Mao
I still want to know why these observers are not in Shitcargo or Detroit? Hey how about a few in Philadelphia?

They already know now to "fix" elections in communist cesspools. They need to learn how to get around more conservative election systems.

29 posted on 10/26/2012 4:13:14 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Snuph

Sure, they can. The federal government cannot tell Texas who may be in their polling places.


30 posted on 10/26/2012 4:13:25 PM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: Snuph

Well, diplomats have full immunity... but...

if they start committing crimes they get sent packin’.

If they go on a murder spree... if they go all strauss-kahn... they make like a tree.

I think Feds are gonna push their version of elections too far for the SCOTUS. SCOTUS says States can’t do things that are unconstitutional concerning elections... but States still have their own laws regarding elections.

Seems to me the State dept is trying to cram too much down the throat of States.


31 posted on 10/26/2012 4:13:28 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: Snuph

They better believe they will be arrested if they interfere. Our Texas attorney general posted this on facebook earlier today:

“I’m drawing a line in the sand on anyone who wants to mess with Texas elections! ‘LIKE’ this to let me know you’re with me!”


32 posted on 10/26/2012 4:13:53 PM PDT by deltanine
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To: Snuph

Bull $hit! The only one with immunity from arrest in Texas is Willie Nelson.... Everyone else has to obey the rules or wait until the judge returns from his hunting/fishing trip....


33 posted on 10/26/2012 4:13:53 PM PDT by ptsal (E)
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To: Snuph

In my parts there is an area known as the Big Thicket. People have been known to go in there and never return.


34 posted on 10/26/2012 4:14:11 PM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett
Just because they have “diplomatic immunity” doesn’t mean that Texas officials are obliged to let them go wherever they like, afaik.

Exactly. They aren't registered Texas voters so put a few Texas Rangers, sherrifs and DPS at each poll to make sure they stay far, far away. If they cause a ruckus, escort them them off and go through their diplomatic papers very, very slowly.

35 posted on 10/26/2012 4:14:11 PM PDT by bgill (Evil doers are in every corner of our government. Have we passed the time of no return?)
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To: Snuph

Diplomatic immunity does not mean that they are free to break our laws. If it did, diplomats would be free to walk in any bank at will, rob it at gunpoint, and walk away free as a bird.
We can detain, and deport lawbreakers with immunity, we cannot prosecute them in our courts.
Go get ‘em Texas!@!


36 posted on 10/26/2012 4:15:06 PM PDT by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: IrishPennant

Exactly
They have no Constitutional authority to grant immunity to “international” or “multinational” bodies.
Further, the Fed Guv has no authority over deciding State election laws, and I’m pretty sure there will be issues on every ballot other than national ones.
Tar and Feathers


37 posted on 10/26/2012 4:15:27 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: Slump Tester
I know Texas can handle their own and might have fun playing with them...like a cat with a half dead mouse...

But I think better to round them all up and a drop them on a two lane road somewhere in the mountains of eastern Kentucky...give them all jackets that say BATF on the back to keep warm during their "walk" out of there.

38 posted on 10/26/2012 4:16:00 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Dr Erkel and Mr. Jive...lurking the streets of DC)
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To: Snuph
State Dept: Texas can’t arrest international election observers

Don't bet on that. Texas should just throw their asses in jail for 24 hours and let the State Dept. wring their hands, dither, and wet their pants like they always do.

39 posted on 10/26/2012 4:16:00 PM PDT by GoldenPup (Comrade "O" has got to GO!!)
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To: Snuph
which is that under U.S. law they are eligible for immunities,”

But there not here at the request of the US government, DEARIE.

There here at the request of a bunch of left-wing organizations.

Thursday, October 25,2012
Attorney General Abbott
The case in point is OSCE’s coordination with Project Vote, an overtly partisan organization that was founded by and closely affiliated with ACORN. As you know, ACORN collapsed in the wake of a national voter registration fraud scandal that resulted in multiple criminal prosecutions for violations of state and federal election laws. Just this week, Project Vote boasted that it was advising OSCE on which issues to study—and which states to monitor—this election cycle. In light of Project Vote’s history of voter registration fraud and its more recent failed attempt to enjoin Texas election laws that were enacted to prevent fraud, no legitimate international body would affiliate with Project Vote. Consequently, OSCE’s affiliation with this dubious organization necessarily undermines its credibility and the independence of its election monitors.

https://www.oag.state.tx.us/oagnews/release.php?id=4199
(emphasis mine)

41 posted on 10/26/2012 4:17:18 PM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as Created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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Lock ‘em up first then let a judge sort it out. That’s better than what happens in most of the countries they represent where a wall and a blindfold is all you get...if you are lucky. Don’t Mess with Texas!!!


42 posted on 10/26/2012 4:18:14 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Snuph

They may be immune from arrest but I bet they can be detained, etc until the polls close before they are turned loose. Hell there are over 8,400 precincts in Texas so they’ll be hard pressed to visit a handful.


43 posted on 10/26/2012 4:19:54 PM PDT by deport
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To: Snuph; JRandomFreeper; panzerkamphwageneinz; greene66; carlo3b; My hearts in London - Everett; ...

Why would they even bother being in Texas? Obama ain’t going to win Texas. Obama can’t cheat to get Texas.

It would be a complete waste of time for them. The UNdiots will be in Philly and Dayton.


44 posted on 10/26/2012 4:19:54 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Slump Tester

Hopefully somewhere that they can verify that the prison conditions of violent illegal aliens are everything the UN wants them to be...


45 posted on 10/26/2012 4:19:57 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Can he even count to zero?)
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To: CodeToad

46 posted on 10/26/2012 4:22:21 PM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: uncitizen
"Really? Is this the State Depts next priority?"

Anything But Benghazi

47 posted on 10/26/2012 4:23:14 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: sam_paine
Why would they even bother being in Texas?

Because they can. Because is another intmidation tactic. Because we're picking up speed travelling down that slippery slope. Because no one has the guts to put a complete and total stop to this ridiculousness.

48 posted on 10/26/2012 4:23:28 PM PDT by bgill (Evil doers are in every corner of our government. Have we passed the time of no return?)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett
Just because they have “diplomatic immunity” doesn’t mean that Texas officials are obliged to let them go wherever they like, afaik.

Exactly. They may not be able to arrest and prosecute them, but they can take them into temporary custody and hold them until after voting hours.

49 posted on 10/26/2012 4:24:26 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Snuph
...under U.S. law they are eligible for immunities,” said State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland.

Nice smoke ring you're blowing there, Victoria - although I thought Foggy Bottom was a smoke-free environment.

If I recall correctly, diplomatic immunity was protection against prosecution, not arrest. Someone with diplomatic immunity can be held for 48 hours without any action required. So I hope these UN idiots enjoy their extended stay in Texas.

50 posted on 10/26/2012 4:25:05 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm not voting for Obama, so therefore I must be helping Romney!)
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