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Mother found guilty in airport pat-down case
CBS ^ | 10-24-2012 | Barry Leibowitz

Posted on 10/25/2012 11:01:52 AM PDT by servo1969

(CBS/AP) NASHVILLE, Tenn. - A woman who berated security officers at a Nashville airport for trying to pat down her teenage daughter, and then refused to submit to the procedure herself, has been found guilty of disorderly conduct.

It took jurors about four hours Tuesday to convict 42-year-old Andrea Abbott for the July confrontation. She was sentenced to a year's probation.

Abbott had faced up to 30 days in jail and a $50 fine, according to CBS affiliate WTVF.

Transportation Security Administration Officer Karen King testified that before the pat-down, Abbott yelled in her face that she didn't want anyone "touching her daughter's crotch."

Abbott eventually allowed her then-14-year-old daughter to undergo the pat-down, but then she refused one for herself and was arrested.

Abbott took the stand during the trial and acknowledged that she did say a few curse words but that she had a normal conversation about why she believed the pat-down was inappropriate.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: patdown; rush; tsa; tyranny
RUSH LIMBAUGH

MORNING UPDATE - Rights!

Andrea Abbott, a Clarksville, Tennessee woman, has been found guilty of disorderly conduct, for yelling at TSA workers attempting to pat down her teenage daughter.

The incident took place in July 2011 at Nashville’s International Airport. Mrs. Abbott, who was not flying but escorting her daughter to the gate, refused the full-body scan for her daughter and herself. She didn’t want government agents to see either of them naked.

They went through the metal detectors, but Ms. Abbott yelled at the female TSA worker sent to pat down the teen, saying she didn’t want anyone “touching her daughter’s crotch.” Things went downhill from there. Eventually she allowed the daughter to undergo the procedure, but refused to be patted down herself, while swearing at the TSA workers and calling them pedophiles.

A jury did not buy the defense argument that Ms. Abbott’s language was a “free speech” issue. Her counsel also argued that since 9/11 we’re losing freedoms and need to draw the line somewhere. The jury didn’t draw the line. After four hours deliberating, they sided with the prosecution.

Ms. Abbott, who was sentenced to probation, failed to understand the basic facts of life. If your government wants to see you naked, or pat down crotches, they have the right to do so. If they want to monitor your calls, put you on security lists, they can do it. The government can do anything it wants. And nobody, especially liberals, will give a hoot! Until a Republican is President.

1 posted on 10/25/2012 11:01:53 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

The TSA needs to be abolished.

We need to ban groping even from a government official, like teachers.


2 posted on 10/25/2012 11:04:01 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: servo1969

Would have been a good time for jury nullification.


3 posted on 10/25/2012 11:05:07 AM PDT by GoDuke
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To: servo1969

Uh...a Republican began this stuff.


4 posted on 10/25/2012 11:06:35 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: servo1969

What I don’t get is that she eventually allowed her daughter to be patted down,but not herself.

The reverse would make more sense.

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5 posted on 10/25/2012 11:08:15 AM PDT by Mears
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To: onedoug

“Uh...a Republican began this stuff.”

Yeah, and that “Republican” gave us Obama! Way to go George!


6 posted on 10/25/2012 11:12:13 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: servo1969

One thing is a fact. If you want to fly and a TSA agent wants to fell you up, they are going to do it.

The answer is Don’t fly.

For those who must fly, Just get used to it.Ask them if they got a thrill when they finish.


7 posted on 10/25/2012 11:16:12 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: servo1969

Just don’t fly, I haven’t since they started this crap.


8 posted on 10/25/2012 11:22:25 AM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: servo1969

Rape the citizens, just don’t dare offend the moose!


9 posted on 10/25/2012 11:26:49 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: servo1969
This is why I haven't flown in 8 years.

I'd object to the gestapo, and wind up in the slammer or the news or both.

The only way to stop this is for there to be a boycott of airports.

A week of empty planes would adjust a lot of feral government attitudes.

10 posted on 10/25/2012 11:29:52 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: vette6387
Yeah, and that “Republican” gave us Obama! Way to go George!

Why blame him?  Blame the idiot voters, they put him in office, not Bush.  TO blame Bush makes you sound like a liberal.  Your Bush derangement Syndrome is kicking into high gear, better up the meds.

11 posted on 10/25/2012 11:33:09 AM PDT by softwarecreator
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To: servo1969
I got patted down, before the pat down a wanding would have solved the problem.

One of the big problems with the pat down is your valuables
are left unattended.

12 posted on 10/25/2012 11:36:01 AM PDT by razorback-bert (I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
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To: GoDuke
Would have been a good time for jury nullification.

Wish I'd been on the jury.

13 posted on 10/25/2012 11:40:36 AM PDT by zeugma (Rid the world of those savages. - Dorothy Woods, widow of a Navy Seal, AMEN!)
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To: servo1969

I’ve been guilty of this woman’s actions and I spent many a terror-filled day as a result. What would I have done if they had arrested me. What if they came for me? My wonderful husband, who died eighteen months ago from cancer, struggled mightily to stay strong following a diagnosis of stage four.
We traveled until we couldn’t. On our last trip two years ago, he was “selected” for pat down. He, a veteran, a gentleman, a hero with the Silver Star and Purple Heart, two tours in Vietnam, plus two distinguished careers following his twenty years in the Army, was good-natured and cooperative. I think Italians are just that way by nature. I could see his discomfort after twenty minutes of “searching” him in full view of other passengers. I started pacing and imploring anyone who would listen to help end this. He was weak from medications. I could see he was tired of holding his arms over his head while the guy unsnapped his jeans and felt around his crotch. I started making noise at 27 minutes which was met with stern warnings. I didn’t shut up. I started crying. I was told to settle down. I said No. Let him go. Finally, they finished and let him go but our last trip was tinged with the memory of that unnecessary event. I don’t know what I was capable of as far as protesting. I don’t know how much further I would have pushed. I think I would have continued until it benefited neither my husband or me. I would have ruined everything. If it had been my child, they would have had to peel me off the TSA member. Why have we been convinced that this is necessary? Why don’t we have huge metal rooms leading into the airport. Everyone has to walk thru single file. If you are carrying anything that would cause a danger to your fellow passengers, you set off a warning that lasts for ten seconds. You either remove the danger or get blown up. Firemen’s hose. Next.


14 posted on 10/25/2012 11:43:42 AM PDT by FryingPan101 (2016 looms)
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To: zeugma

Me too! Not guilty. It is my belief that the TSA is unconstitutional.


15 posted on 10/25/2012 11:46:06 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: razorback-bert

“One of the big problems with the pat down is your valuables are left unattended.”

That’s always been quite disturbing to me. Due to an artificial hip, the alarm always sounds. If there’s no “naked machine” to zip through, then a pat-down for a female can make for a long wait separated from ALL your “stuff”. That’s purse, ID, cell phone, money, etc. All it takes is one criminal TSA employee or traveler to swoop your things and disappear. You’re left with nothing — not even a quarter to make a phone call. I think the gov’t. likes to put us in our place by making us feel/be vulnerable.


16 posted on 10/25/2012 11:46:51 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: FryingPan101

“I started crying. I was told to settle down.”

Same thing happened to me — one-half hour after my dad died. He died 5 minutes before the airport shuttle picked me up so I could fly from LA to NY hoping to have time to say “goodbye”. Obviously emotional when arriving at Security, after the generally bad treatment there, I started crying. I was told to settle down. I was told I’d be ARRESTED if I didn’t stop crying.


17 posted on 10/25/2012 12:01:43 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: FryingPan101
How horrible for you and your husband. It broke my heart to read the distress you and your husband suffered. Where has all the compassion gone in our country? I feel that we are already living in a Communist nation.

Isn't it unusual for the search to last so long? Is it usual for the agents to go into men's pants in front of people? Just the thought of having someone going under my clothes is abhorrent to me. This is just sick behavior.

18 posted on 10/25/2012 12:09:11 PM PDT by mia
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To: vette6387
I hope they abolish the TSA and put into place the Israel's EL AL airline security protocols. The most secure airline in the world, who has been free of terrorist attacks in 30 years.
19 posted on 10/25/2012 12:32:03 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: All

Folks, what’s really sad is the jury that convicted her.


20 posted on 10/25/2012 12:41:42 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: razorback-bert
One of the big problems with the pat down is your valuables are left unattended.

All except your jewels, of course.

21 posted on 10/25/2012 12:46:09 PM PDT by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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To: vette6387
that “Republican” gave us Obama!

No need for scare quotes; he's a real Republican all right. Why some people persist in believing that Republican = conservative is a mystery to me.

22 posted on 10/25/2012 1:06:24 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Terry Mross
Folks, what’s really sad is the jury that convicted her.

Indeed, that is the most disturbing thing about this entire ordeal.

The Progressive public school system is performing as designed -- to have citizens be strongly inclined to be obedient to the State.

It's going to be a long road back from the growing tyranny of our local,state and national governments.

23 posted on 10/25/2012 1:11:19 PM PDT by sand88
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To: onedoug

>>>Uh...a Republican began this stuff.>>>

Yes, onedoug, Bush was president at the time the law was passed. But he fought and fought against it being unionized. Congress passed it as a union.


24 posted on 10/25/2012 1:13:05 PM PDT by kitkat
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To: softwarecreator

Bs. Bush sucked. You don’t have to be a liberal to believe that. I’m a hard-core conservative, but I affirm bush sucked, McCain sucked and bush senior sucked. Being a republican don’t mean sh*t, if it means you have to like idiots.

Why did he suck? He was a big government guy. Spent like a drunken sailor, weakened the constitution substantially with the Patriot act.


25 posted on 10/25/2012 1:26:59 PM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: servo1969

Abbott yelled in her face that she didn’t want anyone “touching her daughter’s crotch.”


Setting all the other issues aside, I’m sure the daughter will be scarred much longer by her mother yelling that out in a crowded airport than she would be by the standard pat down.


26 posted on 10/25/2012 1:34:34 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: LibFreeUSA
I hope they abolish the TSA and put into place the Israel's EL AL airline security protocols. The most secure airline in the world, who has been free of terrorist attacks in 30 years.

One problem with the Israeli protocols: they require intelligent staff in order to apply them. Thus they are incompatible with affirmative action.

27 posted on 10/25/2012 1:36:11 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: FryingPan101

“Why don’t we have huge metal rooms leading into the airport. Everyone has to walk thru single file. If you are carrying anything that would cause a danger to your fellow passengers, you set off a warning that lasts for ten seconds.”

Well, the TSA’s excuse is that the metal detectors just can’t catch everything. What they don’t want to tell you is the pat down, and the body scanners can’t catch everything either, and the terrorists know it. So, basically it seems to me it is all a dog & pony show to make the fliers think that they are safer.


28 posted on 10/25/2012 1:44:01 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: GoDuke
Would have been a good time for jury nullification.

Based only on what I have read, it would have difficult to find a mother guilty for getting a little riled up over a pervert groping her and her teenage daughter. I assume there are some decent TSA workers, but I don't hold them in high regard as a group, based on numerous interactions with them.

29 posted on 10/25/2012 1:59:57 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: WriteOn; softwarecreator
Bs. Bush sucked. You don’t have to be a liberal to believe that. I’m a hard-core conservative, but I affirm bush sucked, McCain sucked and bush senior sucked. Being a republican don’t mean sh*t, if it means you have to like idiots.

The biggest problem with the Republican party is that they don't do what they say they will... firearms/2nd Amd: have you ever heard proposal to repeal the GCA and/or NFA? respect for the bill of rights: the War on Drugs has eroded it to the point of "mere words" but when was the last big/mainstream republican who questioned the WOD? Government Accountability: Fast & Furious shows this to be a lie, do you think that anything will be done from this case of State Sponsored Terrorism? abortion: they add "no exceptions" to the party's plank, only to nominate Romney who does support those very exceptions.

Why did he suck? He was a big government guy. Spent like a drunken sailor, weakened the constitution substantially with the Patriot act.

Should Romney win I expect much the same: I have never heard Romney say something wasn't the government's business.

30 posted on 10/25/2012 7:59:23 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Pollster1
Based only on what I have read, it would have difficult to find a mother guilty for getting a little riled up over a pervert groping her and her teenage daughter. I assume there are some decent TSA workers, but I don't hold them in high regard as a group, based on numerous interactions with them.

I'm wondering if the Jury was told something along the lines of "you have to convict her of breaking the law" ... of course, given that the courts don't have to inform the jury of their power of nullification it's almost the same thing.

31 posted on 10/25/2012 8:01:49 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: kitkat

Bush’s solution? Grow government. Homeland Security. How had we ever lasted without it?


32 posted on 10/25/2012 9:58:56 PM PDT by onedoug
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