Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Obama comment stirs up gun-ban opponents
Star-Telegram ^ | 10/17/12 | Dan Freedman

Posted on 10/19/2012 4:38:58 PM PDT by Evil Slayer

WASHINGTON -- The National Rifle Association is using President Obama's favorable reference to the assault weapons ban as a pro-Mitt-Romney rallying cry to gun owners in swing states.

During Tuesday night's second presidential debate at Hofstra University in Hempstead, N.Y., the president "gave law-abiding hunters, gun owners a preview of what to expect in a second Obama administration," said Andrew Arulanandam, NRA's director of public affairs. "He went straight out and supported a gun ban."

Responding to an audience question on what he'd do to limit the availability of AK-47s and other military-style weapons, Obama started to give what appeared to be a customary answer about respect for Second Amendment rights and enforcing laws already on the books aimed at keeping guns out the hands of criminals and the mentally ill.

But Obama ended up giving an oblique endorsement of reviving the lapsed assault weapons ban, sponsored by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., and approved by a Democratic-controlled Congress in 1994. Republicans let it expire in 2004.

Through its political action committee, the NRA Political Victory Fund, the NRA has fielded 25 paid organizers deployed to 13 states including battlegrounds that may determine the election's outcome such as Florida, Ohio, Colorado, Wisconsin, Virginia and Nevada.

Gun-control advocates dismissed the NRA's stepped-up ground game as gun-lobby bluster with little substance.

The NRA's "bark is worse than their bite; it's completely smoke and mirrors," said Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

(Excerpt) Read more at star-telegram.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: assaultweaponsban; banglist; gunban; nra; secondamendment

1 posted on 10/19/2012 4:39:02 PM PDT by Evil Slayer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Evil Slayer

He also stated that Chi-Town gang bangers were most killing with cheap handguns.

If he has his way, we’ll reban scary looking rifles, implement a new hi-cap mag ban and now add some type of regulation of cheap handguns.

Hi-Point owners, look out.


2 posted on 10/19/2012 4:57:30 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Evil Slayer
The NRA's "bark is worse than their bite; it's completely smoke and mirrors," said Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

Just keep on believing that, DUmmie! We (the NRA and all 2nd Amendment faithful) have pushed you out of 49 of the 50 States, and you are merely clinging on by your fingernails in Chicago and DC!!

When Republicans and Conservatives take control after this election, we will be doing our utmost to stamp on those final fingers!!!

When will you recognize that you are only "whistling past the graveyard"?

~~~~~~~~

It is a genetic characteristic of liberals that they are delusional on many matters -- and that they keep on feverishly repeating their delusions in the hope that they will become self-fulfilling prophecies.

This is a prime example.

Paraphrasing Einstein, who had you liberals pegged:

"Continually repeating a failed effort -- in the hope that the outcome will change -- is a certain sign of insanity ...or of liberalism..."


3 posted on 10/19/2012 5:06:22 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: umgud
Hi-Point owners, look out.

Without a Hi-Point, people who cannot afford a Glock will have to use a broom to protect themselves.

4 posted on 10/19/2012 5:12:36 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: hadaclueonce

Gone are the days of the 1900s when you could buy a cheap .22 for $2.00. Then by 1968 there were IMPs, RGs Spanish made junk priced at $9.99, the came the 1968 gun control law, and cheap guns began to disappear, to be replaced by RG (Rhom Ghimbh)slightly larger guns to meet the 1968 GCA requirements.

One newspaper (THE DENVER POST) tried to get the Ruger .22 auto pistol listed as a “Saturday night special”.


5 posted on 10/19/2012 5:42:20 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: hadaclueonce

*** people who cannot afford a Glock will have to use a broom to protect themselves. ****

Back about forty five years ago I read an interesting book on home security during a break in or riot.

The author suggested one room as a safe room, locks and such, then if they break in there, the homeowner was to break apart a pair of scissors and tape it to the end of a broom.

This was written during the very anti-gun days after the killing of Bobby Kennedy.


6 posted on 10/19/2012 5:46:07 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Evil Slayer

Whether they say it in public or not, disarming us bitter clingers is always in the backs of their minds.


7 posted on 10/19/2012 5:53:59 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hadaclueonce

From the jam-o-matic Hi-Points I’ve seen the broom would be an improvement.

Hi-Point product is quite properly in the “throw at enemy and hope they are dumb enough to attempt to use it” category, in my experience. There are many other options at similar cost to Hi-Point offerings that aren’t made of failure and shame.


8 posted on 10/19/2012 6:53:51 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Spktyr

I have a hipoint as a shower gun and it has never failed me......if it rusts no sweat buy another.


9 posted on 10/19/2012 7:09:03 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Spktyr

I have a hipoint as a shower gun and it has never failed me......if it rusts no sweat buy another.


10 posted on 10/19/2012 7:09:20 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Spktyr
From the jam-o-matic Hi-Points I’ve seen the broom would be an improvement. Hi-Point product is quite properly in the “throw at enemy and hope they are dumb enough to attempt to use it” category, in my experience. There are many other options at similar cost to Hi-Point offerings that aren’t made of failure and shame.

I have a Hi-Point C9. It looks a little out of place among my collection of S&W revolvers, but it runs like a champ and is accurate, too. I bought it on a whim.

Definitely not my first choice for concealed carry, but it does what it is supposed to do. If it were the only firearm I could afford, I wouldn't hesitate to depend on it for protection.

11 posted on 10/19/2012 7:18:57 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Spktyr
From the jam-o-matic Hi-Points I’ve seen the broom would be an improvement.

In my CCW classes, a few students brought Hi-Point pistols. Most of them were reliable and accurate. I thought there triggers were mediocre and I did not like the balance or looks, but for the most part there worked and were as accurate as Glocks. I think the accuracy was due to the fixed barrel.

12 posted on 10/20/2012 6:57:53 PM PDT by marktwain
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: marktwain

there worked should be “they worked”.


13 posted on 10/20/2012 6:59:04 PM PDT by marktwain
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Spktyr
From the jam-o-matic Hi-Points I’ve seen the broom would be an improvement

You are full of shit, gun snob. My brother and I have a couple of these guns as play toys and have yet had a malfunction. If you don't know what you're talking about, shut the f%ck up!All you are doing is discouraging people that can't afford a high priced name brand gun to stay disarmed. A cheap no frills gun is better than no gun.

14 posted on 10/20/2012 9:50:03 PM PDT by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: metalurgist

I do know what I’m talking about and am not full of shit. One of my first guns was a Hi Point .45. Jamomatic. Friend of mine bought a Hi Point 9mm. Jamomatic. Another friend bought one of their 9mms. Slide cracked after less than a full magazine. A friend’s parent bought one as a truck gun. Constant failure to eject after the sixth mag at the range. I have heard other stories of failure and shame with these weapons and been shown the evidence. Maybe they’ve improved in the last couple of years, but I doubt it.

And no, I’m not discouraging people from becoming armed. I am discouraging them from buying crap.

What’s really stupid is that for about the same $150-200 MSRP you can get good quality guns ranging from police trade-in Smith, Colt and Ruger revolvers, to Walther P1s, to trade-in Taurus PT92s, to Bersa Thunders, some Kel-Tecs and Kahrs. You can get good quality Hungarian clones of the Browning High Power for $150. You can get Bulgarians for $200 or less. You can even get a Philipine-made 1911 for about $200 now.

You can even get the traditionally high dollar real honest-to-god-made-in-Belgium Browning High Power for less than $400 these days: http://www.slickguns.com/product/browning-fn-hi-power-9mm-54995

If you think the best you can do for $200 is a lousy Hi Point, you aren’t doing your homework.


15 posted on 10/20/2012 9:59:30 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Spktyr
In Pa. where I live, a Highpoint costs $119.99 for the .380 or a 9mm. the .45 costs $159.00. The quality must have improved since your experience with them. They also come with a lifetime guarantee.

Police trade-ins start at around $330.00 for a Smith model 59 and go up from there.

KelTecs start out at $230.00 and go up.

Something reliable in a Taurus will cost you $300.00 or better.

All of the above are pretty much priced out of reach if you're a poor person looking for some home security.

As far as a .45 made in the Philipnes, rots of ruck on that one. A gun made of metal of uncertain parentage isn't for me.

16 posted on 10/21/2012 12:30:31 PM PDT by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: metalurgist

HiPoints are, or were, made of metal of uncertain provenance as well, so that’s a wash.

I just picked up a Ruger Security Six for $150 three weeks ago. Bought a friend of mine a Ruger P89 for $200 several months back, last year I got an Arcus Browning High Power clone for $160, and I can buy Taurus revolvers all day long for $200 or less.

The Hi Points came with a lifetime warranty when I had mine, but it didn’t do any good when they came back as bad as when they were sent out.


17 posted on 10/21/2012 7:30:12 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson