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Free online classes banned in Minnesota without explicit government approval
Campus Reform ^

Posted on 10/19/2012 10:28:42 AM PDT by oliverdarcy

Minnesota law requires that the Minnesota Office of Higher Education (OHE) give approval to any free online courses made available in the state, for state residents, officials have confirmed to Campus Reform.

The law has been in place for years, but it gained notoriety this week after a small online education institution, Coursera, claims they were informed by OHE, the same branch of government that administers financial aid for state schools, that they operating illegally by offering free online courses.

Coursera, which offers online classes on a variety of academic disciplines, claims on its website that they were “informed by the Minnesota Office of Higher Education that under Minnesota Statutes (136A.61 to 136A.71), a university cannot offer online courses to Minnesota residents unless the university has received authorization from the State of Minnesota to do so.”

Coursera further advises students that if they are a “resident of Minnesota, you agree that either (1) you will not take courses on Coursera, or (2) for each class that you take, the majority of work you do for the class will be done from outside the State of Minnesota.”

(Excerpt) Read more at campusreform.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: education; minnesota; minnesotabanned; tyranny

1 posted on 10/19/2012 10:28:51 AM PDT by oliverdarcy
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To: oliverdarcy

So remember folks, if you live in Minnesota, you can’t take any of those econ classes offered by Yale unless your gubmint says ok. Can’t have you lernin’ stuff.


2 posted on 10/19/2012 10:31:01 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: oliverdarcy

Un freakin’ b’lievable !


3 posted on 10/19/2012 10:34:53 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: oliverdarcy

Can’t have free online courses, as it makes education less expensive, and lest it damage the government student loan program, and then damage the leverage that the government has on students borrowing from the government, their majors, and their education vendors.

We need a steady supply of American Black Woman’s Blind Studies majors, Basket Weaving majors, GlowBull Warming Environmental Science Baloney Majors...


4 posted on 10/19/2012 10:35:08 AM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: oliverdarcy
Control freaks ...

When I was young the hippies hated them ....

Now they are them ....

5 posted on 10/19/2012 10:36:02 AM PDT by bankwalker (In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.)
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To: oliverdarcy

No free Constitution courses for you, Minnesota!


6 posted on 10/19/2012 10:37:58 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: oliverdarcy

It looks like the state doesn’t want anyone to escape from the lousy education establishment.Afterall they need to complete their indoctrination of America’s Youth.


7 posted on 10/19/2012 10:38:10 AM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: cindy-true-supporter

Incredible.


8 posted on 10/19/2012 10:40:38 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Sesame Street: Obama brought to you by the letter O and the number 16 billion. - Mitt)
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To: oliverdarcy
Sounds like soft tyranny to me! I'm thinking that this a swipe at Hillsdale College

The absolute gall of these people informing the citizenry about the constitution.

9 posted on 10/19/2012 10:42:11 AM PDT by Cheapskate (Play loud and carry BIG sticks!)
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To: oliverdarcy

Um, free speech?


10 posted on 10/19/2012 10:42:18 AM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: oliverdarcy
Sounds like soft tyranny to me! I'm thinking that this a swipe at Hillsdale College

The absolute gall of these people informing the citizenry about the constitution.

11 posted on 10/19/2012 10:42:28 AM PDT by Cheapskate (Play loud and carry BIG sticks!)
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To: oliverdarcy

Oh no, the future is coming! Quick, ban it!


12 posted on 10/19/2012 10:43:04 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: 1rudeboy
I'm trying to figure out how this law is not in flagrant violation of the First Amendment to the US Constitution.

So far, I got nuthin'.

13 posted on 10/19/2012 10:43:59 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: oliverdarcy

Illegal and unconstitutional.
No government has any right to do this.


14 posted on 10/19/2012 10:47:31 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Fascism is wrong even when practiced by the government.)
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To: bankwalker
Control freaks ...

When I was young the hippies hated them ....

Now they are them ....

The modern left are the new Victorians. They want to control everything everyone does - even down to eating and shitting.

I've been calling lefties "neo-Victorians" for years now.

15 posted on 10/19/2012 10:49:41 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: oliverdarcy

Even the Beast of Revelations didn’t meddle in free activities.


16 posted on 10/19/2012 10:49:56 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1368 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: AAABEST

One sheet of TP per shet, only, Citizen...


17 posted on 10/19/2012 10:52:04 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1368 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Oberon
The Constitution is about not trying to interrupt the president when he is interrupting you. Chris Matthews told me so.
18 posted on 10/19/2012 10:53:43 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
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To: oliverdarcy

a pre-emptive strike against Constitution 101 from Hillsdale College


19 posted on 10/19/2012 10:56:47 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: oliverdarcy

ist verboten!!!!

GIVING FREELY OF YOURSELF IS SO ‘UNFAIR’


20 posted on 10/19/2012 11:01:57 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The only thing the World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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To: I want the USA back

THe EDUcation unions are in panic mode-

Why? because- there are several (PRIVATE- NON union)colleges
offering both FREE and substaniallly reduced cost
courses- guess what - this is their Govt. buddies
just running interference for them-

Home Schooling
Christian Schools
Now online- reduced cost-

Maybe a break in the unions will finally occur


21 posted on 10/19/2012 11:04:44 AM PDT by mj1234
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To: oliverdarcy
Any decent attorney should be able to take this apart.
22 posted on 10/19/2012 11:06:38 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: oliverdarcy

Looks like they will have to start charging $1/year admission.


23 posted on 10/19/2012 11:17:02 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: AAABEST

yep.mandated “low flush” toilets and school lunch inspectors.

I remember when this was a free country.


24 posted on 10/19/2012 11:19:38 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

So, how many Minnesota citizens are going to go along with this? What’s the penalty if you ignore the law? Does this include homeschooling families, too? Are they allowed to take on-line courses for K12 at least? What if a parent wants a particular religious on-line course for his kids? Or what if an adult wants to take an on-line college course from a religious institution?

What’s the point of this asinine law?


25 posted on 10/19/2012 11:22:50 AM PDT by goldi
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To: oliverdarcy

They have to keep Minnesota voters uneducated so they will keep voting Democrat.


26 posted on 10/19/2012 11:22:59 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Oberon

It would be unconstitutional for the FEDERAL governmet to do it- but this is a STATE law isnt it?

Can a State write a law that goes against the first amendment to the US Constitution?

Is it one of the enumerated powers?


27 posted on 10/19/2012 11:28:04 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The only thing the World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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To: oliverdarcy

More evidence we pay unnecessary taxes and all government should be part time and parts abolished altogether


28 posted on 10/19/2012 11:34:35 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Mr. K
Fortunately, there are truckloads of precedent-setting case law that establishes First Amendment rights as sacrosanct from encroachment from any government entity.

That one matters to the press, you know.

29 posted on 10/19/2012 11:39:56 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: oliverdarcy

Great publicity for coursera. I just signed up for one of their database classes.


30 posted on 10/19/2012 11:58:57 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit (School is prison for children who have commited the crime of being born. (attr: St_Thomas_Aquinas))
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To: oliverdarcy

Minnesota. This does not surprise me one bit. According to one bureaucrap in Minnestoopid, I don;t have an engineering degree because it’s not from the University of Minnestoopid, I only went to a degree mill (any New Jersey Institute of Technology/Newark College of Engineering alum care to comment on that?). This fits perfect into the insular character of that state.


31 posted on 10/19/2012 12:16:39 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is the operational wing of CPUSA.)
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To: puppypusher
It looks like the state doesn’t want anyone to escape from the lousy education establishment. Afterall they need to complete their indoctrination of America’s Youth.

Hm... either it's for the children or they're afraid to lose control of the knowledge imparted to the people.

And really it's both.
As one Freeper observed: government schools are prisons for those that have committed the crime of being born.

32 posted on 10/19/2012 4:39:26 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Cheapskate
Sounds like soft tyranny to me! I'm thinking that this a swipe at Hillsdale College
The absolute gall of these people informing the citizenry about the constitution.

Imagine the terror they'd be having if the courses were on the powers of the jury, particularly presentments.

33 posted on 10/19/2012 4:40:57 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Mr. K
ist verboten!!!!
GIVING FREELY OF YOURSELF IS SO ‘UNFAIR’

But the government forcing you to give to something you despise is fair.

34 posted on 10/19/2012 4:42:34 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: oliverdarcy

Minnesota eases restrictions on online education following Internet dust-up

http://www.twincities.com/technology/ci_21813203/minnesota-eases-restrictions-online-education-following-internet-dust

backpedaling quick, they are...


35 posted on 10/19/2012 10:41:20 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: knarf

Totally believable. If you want real education reform, step one is to eliminated the government control over education.

Why must education be regulated?


36 posted on 10/20/2012 5:27:16 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: bankwalker

Hippies were always control freaks. Just leftist ones. That’s why they used to walk arount with Mao’s little red book.


37 posted on 10/20/2012 5:43:49 AM PDT by Varda
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To: oliverdarcy

Coursera’s a great program. Anyone who might be interested in learning something should check out what they’re offering and see if anything has appeal.


38 posted on 10/20/2012 5:44:42 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: oliverdarcy

I’d like to see them prosecute someone for taking an on-line class. How is restricting information legal?


39 posted on 10/20/2012 5:47:01 AM PDT by Varda
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To: goldi
What’s the point of this asinine law?

Control. You'll think how and about what we tell you.

40 posted on 10/20/2012 6:05:51 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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