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A new, improved Barack Obama shows up for the 2nd debate but fails to halt Mitt Romney's momentum
.dailymail.co.uk ^ | 10/17/12 | Toby Harnden

Posted on 10/17/2012 7:22:39 AM PDT by Justaham

President Barack Obama needed a game-changing night here in Hampstead, New York and Mitt Romney made sure he didn't get it. Over the 90 minutes, Obama might have edged it - just - but strategically he did little if anything to blunt Romney's growing advantage.

Just as Al Gore over-compensated for his poor first debate in 2000, we saw a completely different Obama this time around. He had clearly had some intensive coaching from his debate prep team and was acting under orders to do change everything. Romney strategist Stuart Stevens quipped afterwards that he became 'Joe Biden without the charm'.

The problem is that the difference was so stark it was jarring. And by throwing everything but the kitchen sink at Romney - we had tax rates, Bain, big bird and the 47 per cent - there was more than a whiff of desperation. While Obama flung mud, Romney was intent on dismantling Obama's record in office.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: presidentialdebate; romneymomentum

1 posted on 10/17/2012 7:22:45 AM PDT by Justaham
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To: Justaham

But Bracky won, doncha know?

These Brits need to get with the program.


2 posted on 10/17/2012 7:27:33 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Justaham
If the daily mail noticed this too....then Obozo is toast.

The daily mail really has no reason to give a damn one way or the other who wone the debate last night.

3 posted on 10/17/2012 7:27:58 AM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: Justaham
His most resonant lines were the simplest. 'Well, let's look at the president's policies, all right, as opposed to the rhetoric, because we've had four years of policies being played out,' he said at one point.

So many good points in the article (which confirms my instinct that as time goes on, Romney will prove to be the 'winner' of this debate), but I'm going to focus on this one ..... another HUGE line for Romney - the focus group (Luntz) mentioned it more than once ... Romney: "We can do better than this" and "we don't have to live this way". Really resonated with the people.

4 posted on 10/17/2012 7:30:40 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: Justaham

Candy picked the questions, her actions during debate fired up Romney voters and people who despise the media. Romney is now the more likable.


5 posted on 10/17/2012 7:33:25 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Justaham
Obama is still a stuttering idiot withut a prepared script and his trusty TelePrompters.


6 posted on 10/17/2012 7:47:35 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few, and let another take his office.")
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To: Justaham

If Barry O doesn’t start showing some improvement after this debate, you can probably count on some ‘dog wagging’ in the form of military operations against twice the number of ‘usual suspects’ within Libya by Sunday. Having a debate regarding foreign policy would be somewhat problematic for Romney if Barry just bombed Benghazi and everybody is required to show support for the Commander in Chief, or look unpatriotic in not doing so.


7 posted on 10/17/2012 7:56:47 AM PDT by jerod (Pro-Abortion Gun Control Freaks & Environmental Nuts who hated Capitalism? The Nazi's)
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To: Justaham
For the last few months, before the first debate, Obama was able to float around above Romney because most people were not focused on the election and he was able to spend millions making Romney into a monster to all who had not really ever seen Mitt or heard him.

Now that Romney has twice proven himself competent, caring, articulate, energized, and ready to go to work to turn this around -- gravity will now be the irresistible force on Obama in this race. He will lose this race and it is not going to be close.

8 posted on 10/17/2012 7:57:07 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

The thing President Romney showed me was that he can more than hold his own in a room loaded with Regressives, all gunning for him. It’s going to be that way at Press conferences for the next four years.


9 posted on 10/17/2012 7:59:27 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Pray for Joe Biden- Proverbs 29:9)
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To: Justaham

Nothing “new” or “improved”.

As usual, Barack can only put up a “fight” from behind the skirts of some he-woman.

Yesterday was a two-fer.

First he hid behind hillery by letting her “take responsibility” for Benghazi.

And then he used Candy Crowley to “redistribute” Romney’s speaking time and to silence Romney whenever the course of the debate was about to take a dangerous turn (e.g. Fast& Furious, Benghazi). He waved his finger and leapt off his stool to signal Crowley whenever he felt threatened, so SHE would make Romney shut up.

Cowering bully, hiding behind his allies whenever he is challenged. A liar and a spineless milksop.


10 posted on 10/17/2012 8:13:10 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Justaham
Obama’s record and the fact that he outright lied about Libya lost the debate for Obama.
11 posted on 10/17/2012 8:15:39 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: Justaham
Obama has not really improved his debate technique. He gets by with a certain amount of demagoguery because of a quality, which Mitt Romney shares with a great many other very affluent Americans--particularly those educated to behave as gentlemen: That is, it is very awkward for him to say things which might be seen as purely self-serving. Thus he leans over backwards, not to challenge Obama's endless rants about "paying their fair share," with reference to the taxes on the wealthy.

Yet the fact is, the wealthy pay far more than their fair share, from a traditional American perspective. Please, everyone should be aware of what the Founding Fathers thought of direct taxation on individuals. (See Article I, Sec. 9, of the Constitution.) They not only did not favor a graduated tax on individuals; they believed that any such tax should be equal on all individuals.

It was during the 124 years, when that was our tax policy, that we grew to be the most prosperous peoples on earth. It was not "trickle down" anything. Simply a normal incentive, that actually worked.

Because these subjects are awkward for Gov. Romney, it is up to active Conservatives to take the fight back to the Obamanists. We can all do our part--even as the Hungarian multi-billionaire emigre, who came to America after World War II, has been spending a great deal of his own money, to try to preserve the traditional American values that attracted him hither. We do not need to stand idle, while the campaign misses an opportunity.

William Flax

12 posted on 10/17/2012 8:18:51 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: BlatherNaut
re: As usual, Barack can only put up a “fight” from behind the skirts of some he-woman.

Yes! Obama is not treated like a man by his followers. He is treated as a child. Expectations are constantly being lowered for him. The imagery from your comment should be made into a political cartoon and widely disseminated.

13 posted on 10/17/2012 8:21:36 AM PDT by Nevadan
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To: MuttTheHoople

Here is something I think needs to be pointed out...

WHO do you want meeting with Putin behind closed doors when the safety of the US is at stake... BO or MR?


14 posted on 10/17/2012 8:40:49 AM PDT by muffaletaman (IMNSHO - I MIGHT be wrong, but I doubt it.)
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To: muffaletaman
A new improved Obama??? Please!!! Obama has said things like which Mitt will show up but with 2 debates there has been 2 Obamas. I think there's a few medical definitions that fit Obama’s different personalities!
15 posted on 10/17/2012 9:02:49 AM PDT by SoulSearching
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The first impression argument is the most important. People WANT to change from Obama, they simply needed to see Romney appeared competent and could give it a good go.

He knocked it out of the park in the first debate, and now that impression is in cement.

That is all that matters.

All Obama can really hope for is Romney to make a monumental gaffe or some new “scandal”.


16 posted on 10/17/2012 9:27:45 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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