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Obama advocates reintroducing assault weapons ban
The Daily Caller ^ | 10/17/12 | Matt Lewis

Posted on 10/17/2012 6:25:33 AM PDT by TonyInOhio

President Barack Obama declared during Tuesday’s presidential debate that his goals as president include the reinstatement of a so-called “assault weapons ban” in the United States.

As part of a plan to reduce street violence in cities — including in his own hometown of Chicago — Obama proposed “seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced.”

This appears to be among the boldest pro-gun-control comments Obama has made as president, and the first time has has openly called for the reinstatement of the assault weapons ban.

“So my belief is that, A, we have to enforce the laws we’ve already got, make sure that we’re keeping guns out of the hands of criminals, those who are mentally ill,” Obama said when asked about gun control. “We’ve done a much better job in terms of background checks, but we’ve got more to do when it comes to enforcement.”

“But I also share your belief that weapons that were designed for soldiers in war theaters don’t belong on our streets,” he added. “And so what I’m trying to do is to get a broader conversation about how do we reduce the violence generally.”

"Part of it is seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced. part of it is also looking at other sources of the violence. Because frankly, in my home town of Chicago, there’s an awful lot of violence and they’re not using AK-47s. They’re using cheap hand guns.”


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1 posted on 10/17/2012 6:25:38 AM PDT by TonyInOhio
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To: TonyInOhio

Good news actually. Tells me they are REALLY REALLY having problems with their base. This would be suicidal amongst all other groups.


2 posted on 10/17/2012 6:27:10 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Yep, this should really help Obama lock down those rural swing state...I guess he didn't learn the lesson Al Gore did in 2000 and Bill Clinton in the 1994 midterms, that gun control is toxic.
3 posted on 10/17/2012 6:28:51 AM PDT by apillar
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To: TonyInOhio

But...But....we’re supposed to bring a gun...


4 posted on 10/17/2012 6:29:48 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: TonyInOhio

Yes, this sent a chill down my spine when Obama said this, but I also thought that Obama probably unintetionally “outed” himself here. This is the REAL Obama, who wants to reintroduce an “assault weapons” ban.


5 posted on 10/17/2012 6:29:54 AM PDT by Obadiah (The corrupt MSM is the enemy of the American people.)
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To: Obadiah
Yes, this sent a chill down my spine when Obama said this, but I also thought that Obama probably unintetionally “outed” himself here. This is the REAL Obama, who wants to reintroduce an “assault weapons” ban.

I agree, I think it slipped out. When you have no plan and no record, you tend to fall back on core beliefs, and there's nothing Lefites like better than taking away guns.

6 posted on 10/17/2012 6:33:50 AM PDT by TonyInOhio ("But, the Obama has no clothes!")
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To: apillar
I've noticed that all the MSM has been completely silent about this question. I think Obama screwed up by endorsing the AWB and the media knows it. In fact I the Obama/Crowley team realized it as soon as he let it slip last night and both quickly started attacking Romney's (admittedly sketchy) history of past support for the AWB in Massachusetts.
7 posted on 10/17/2012 6:33:49 AM PDT by apillar
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To: TonyInOhio
I agree, I think it slipped out. When you have no plan and no record, you tend to fall back on core beliefs, and there's nothing Lefites like better than taking away guns.

Listen to Obama's response closely, I think he almost endorsed a handgun ban (which he supported as a Rep from Chicago). He endorses the AWB, then he says "But the real problem in the cities is handgun violence..." Then he starts to say something and cuts himself off so noticeably mid-sentence he actually sound like "Buuuuuwwww...." then he pauses for several seconds and starts talking about crime in the inner cities.

8 posted on 10/17/2012 6:39:33 AM PDT by apillar
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To: TonyInOhio
FUBO.

Molon labe.

9 posted on 10/17/2012 6:39:47 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: apillar

I heard it too.

The Marxist maniac cannot get a second term. I always said his second term would make Clinton’s second term look like a four star resort stay.


10 posted on 10/17/2012 6:45:42 AM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative. REJECT THEN STOP SOCIALISM THIS NOV!)
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To: apillar
think he almost endorsed a handgun ban (which he supported as a Rep from Chicago). He endorses the AWB, then he says "But the real problem in the cities is handgun violence..." Then he starts to say something and cuts himself off so noticeably mid-sentence he actually sound like "Buuuuuwwww...."

Very good point. He'd love to disarm the law-abiding and leave them as sitting ducks. It would aid redistribution.

Now that I think back, he did say something like "most of the crimes are done with handguns," but didn't take it any further. I didn't fill in the blank as to where he wanted to go.

11 posted on 10/17/2012 6:47:37 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: sf4dubya

Obama care will declare you mentally unstable if your not a Rat

then they’ll come for the guns.

kill obamacare.


12 posted on 10/17/2012 6:49:45 AM PDT by Gasshog
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To: TonyInOhio
Because frankly, in my home town of Chicago, there’s an awful lot of violence and they’re not using AK-47s. They’re using cheap hand guns.”

Maybe he should include cheap handguns in the new AWB law.

13 posted on 10/17/2012 6:49:55 AM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: TonyInOhio

The AR-15 was introduced to the civilian market BEFORE it ever saw service as the M-16. By that logic, AR-15s are good to go.


14 posted on 10/17/2012 6:59:13 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: apillar
Listen to Obama's response closely, I think he almost endorsed a handgun ban (which he supported as a Rep from Chicago).

A logical assumption, give the obvious contempt this administration has for "stand your ground" laws - which are intertwined with concealed-carry laws and handguns.

15 posted on 10/17/2012 6:59:53 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: TonyInOhio; Buckeye McFrog; apillar; Sacajaweau; Obadiah; Dead Corpse; sf4dubya; ...
To my mind, I think it played out like this:

Candy Boo Boo Child, in her role as Official White House Debate Moderator, was trying to 'gotchya' Mitt Romney. It occured late in the debate, when the participants were getting tired, and Mitt has a record of banning them in Massatwoshits.

So Candy was hoping to get Mitt Romney on record as FOR an AW ban, which would have severely depressed his base turnout.

He didn't answer it perfectly, but he didn't do any real damage to himself. On the other hand, OBAMA JUST MOTIVATED THE FIREARMS BASE TO *DEFINITELY* TURN OUT, in 1994 NUMBERS.....

Candy Boo Boo Child / Obama FAIL

16 posted on 10/17/2012 7:14:40 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: TonyInOhio
A real zealot can't help themselves. It was just a matter of time before he declared it.

Even more than gun control though,....my mind has been fixated on 2 more SCOTUS nominee's. That would buy us 40 more years of hell. There would have to be revolution before then. Gun control could be stopped in Congress,....I'm afraid the senate would buckle on the SCOTUS. We did get an active member of La Raza after all.

17 posted on 10/17/2012 7:20:24 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: TonyInOhio

Yeh that answer really got him a lot of votes. Not. Somebody call Barry and tell him even Dems own assault rifles.


18 posted on 10/17/2012 7:33:18 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: TonyInOhio
Submitted for your reference. Here ya are BO...

And the anointed one wants to get all those "automatic rifles off the streets". I thought it was great when Mitt says something like "well, they're not automatics, that would be illegal"

BO has no clue, but most journalists don't either when it comes time for discussions on firearms. Just another example of the brilliance of our POTUS....

19 posted on 10/17/2012 7:36:30 AM PDT by China Clipper ( Animals? Sure I like animals. See? There they are, right next to the potatoes!)
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To: Gasshog
Good to see I'm not the only one that noticed it.

Something else I noticed was his acknowledging the gun of choice for gangs was handguns and not long guns. Yet the various Fast and Furious operations around the country was for the sale of so called assault weapons.

The gangs are stockpiling long guns, they are not using them to commit crimes.

So much for the “Gun Control” theory behind the Fast & Furious type operations around the country.

Going into Clinton's 1996 reelection, the Chinese military was smuggling in full auto weapons for the gangs.

I don't believe it's just a coincidence.

20 posted on 10/17/2012 7:45:21 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: TonyInOhio
Well, that kind of statement is red meat for the base at a San Francisco fundraiser, but incredibly stupid in a presidential debate.

Thanks for making that point, dummy, just in case anybody forgot where you stand on this issue. That should sit real nicely with any of those "bitter clingers" in Pennsylvania who are still undecided.

21 posted on 10/17/2012 7:49:14 AM PDT by Kenton (Obama needs to get off drugs before he does any more debates)
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To: TonyInOhio
I couldn't focus on the debate as I was at work but I seem to recall that Romney convincing laid F&F at zero's feet and obama completely ignored it. I haven't seen this addressed anywhere.

If so that is an admission that what Romney said is true.

22 posted on 10/17/2012 8:11:03 AM PDT by Eagles6 (DNC 2012 Convention: Celebrating infanticide and sodomy. Denying God.What could possibly go wrong?)
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To: Lazamataz

Massatwoshits.

lol.


23 posted on 10/17/2012 8:18:19 AM PDT by Gasshog
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To: IMR 4350
“Going into Clinton's 1996 reelection, the Chinese military was smuggling in full auto weapons for the gangs.”

In the mid 90’s I remember a short article in the Oakland Tribune where a customs spot check on some cargo in the port of Oakland turned up 2 cases of AK-47’s, full-auto and no serial numbers. Point of origin, China. The article was just a short paragraph then it disappeared down the memory hole.

24 posted on 10/17/2012 11:26:18 AM PDT by Polynikes (Hakkaa Palle)
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To: TonyInOhio

NO WAY this happens as long as Obama is trying to get Ohio.


25 posted on 10/17/2012 11:57:36 AM PDT by libdestroyer
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To: Lazamataz
He didn't answer it perfectly, but he didn't do any real damage to himself. On the other hand, OBAMA JUST MOTIVATED THE FIREARMS BASE TO *DEFINITELY* TURN OUT, in 1994 NUMBERS.....

I recall seeing a masterful political cartoon from just after the '94 election, portraying the election results as a gigantic bullet marked "AW Ban" lodged in the wall of the White House. An equally enormous smoking revolver identified as "the voters" was at the left edge of the frame. Rising above the White House, Bubba's thought balloon read "Hey, that was no ordinary potshot", or some such (this was about a month after Francisco Duran emptied his SKS into the front of the WH).

I've searched for that one since but haven't been able to find it. I think the artist was Mike Luckovich... maybe.

You're right, though - even if Romney wasn't flawless, drawing that comment out of Obama was worth a lot of votes. The GOA, NRA, SAS, JPFO, et al better waste no time exploiting the opportunity.

26 posted on 10/17/2012 2:35:54 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: TonyInOhio

Really, really trying to get one sooner than later.


27 posted on 10/17/2012 2:37:29 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: TonyInOhio
"They’re using cheap hand guns.”

"They?" You mean "those people?"

28 posted on 10/17/2012 2:54:42 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Polynikes
That was part of it. I think that is what led them to check further into other shipments of weapons from China.

Clinton had signed the assault weapon ban, but had given a waver to the Chinese to ship in, IIRC, 100,000 to 150,000 SKS rifles. They were so cheap you could buy one for under $50.

They were smuggling in the full auto weapons with the SKS’s.

They said they found enough weapons to supply a small army.

How many were shipped in before they got caught nobody knows.

29 posted on 10/17/2012 3:27:27 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350
” They were smuggling in the full auto weapons with the SKS’s.

They said they found enough weapons to supply a small army.

How many were shipped in before they got caught nobody knows”

California banned and ordered SKS owners at least the ones who dutifully registered as assault weapons to turn them in back in 1999. I wonder if there were a few class 3 SKS in the mix as well and the state was looking to CYA.

On a side note the nut job who shot up the Carson City Nevada IHOP in 2011 used a Norinco Mak 90(AK-47 clone) modified for select fire. I remember a news conference where a LE rep said the AK was modified for full-auto and the mod job was of a very professional job and seemed to be beyond the capabilities of the shooter. The trail got murky after that in that the AK was sold in California in private party sale more than 5 years prior. Looks like there may be some select fire AK’s still floating around.

30 posted on 10/17/2012 6:21:13 PM PDT by Polynikes (Hakkaa Palle)
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To: Polynikes
In March of 1999, Hillary attempted to implement what was called “The Scorched Earth Policy”.

The premise comes from the Weather Underground playbook. It means to orchestrate race riots.

Find an incident, a spark to ignite the flame, ratchet it up to a raging inferno.

I don't have a doubt they knew what the Clintons were up to. Typical of liberals, disarm the honest people and leave them defenseless.

I also don't have a doubt the Chinese smuggling in those weapons to the gangs in 1996, is what Ron Brown was scared of and I think Brown was going public and they shut him up.

Vince Foster was going public about the firing of the US Attorneys, that's in his so called suicide note.

People are thoroughly convinced Obama is the Big Dog of this bunch because he’s president. He's not.

In 1995 when Bill Ayers patted Obama on his head, Obama was brought into the Clintons inner circle as their toady for Clinton's 1996 reelection to orchestrate race riots if necessary.

Obama is still the Clinton's toady.

31 posted on 10/17/2012 7:10:14 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350

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32 posted on 10/17/2012 11:30:33 PM PDT by Eagles6 (DNC 2012 Convention: Celebrating infanticide and sodomy. Denying God.What could possibly go wrong?)
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