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To: Grampa Dave; Paladin2; Rocky; WhiskeyX; BwanaNdege; Sherman Logan; MrB; justa-hairyape; ...

It would be interesting to see if anyone has a consistent record of temperatures , growing season dates and lengths in the Wino region....not sure if one of the Universities would be reputable enough to trust their records.


26 posted on 10/14/2012 10:37:54 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Using the temperature observations from non-representative surfacestations located within the planetary boundary layer as a proxy for the heat content of the atmosphere, hydrosphere, and cryosphere does not make much sense from the scientific point of view, especially when the claim for accuracy is in fractions of a degree that is far less than the accuracies of the temperature measuring instruments.

The long-term records of the vintners are helpful to a limited extent with some local and regional climate trends related to agriculture, but they cannot provide definitive information about the rest of the planetary environment.

NOAA and UEA-CRU are not so great at recordkeeping. I’ve tried numerous times over the years to obtain copies of one or more of a Federal log with the weather records I authored. These efforts have been uniformly denied or made too burdensome to be feasible. When closely questoned, a few NOAA workers acknowledged unspecified stacks of the paper records are being lost forever before they can be microfilmed or digitally scanned. The reecords became wet in a basment, and the aperworms or insect larvae have been eating them. What is left was due to be discarded in the garbage.

As the Climategate e-mail has disclosed along with other sources, the temperature records have been adjusted and re-adjusted until CRU and NOAA can nolonger report what the original values were before all of the adjusting began. Without many of the original paper records, it may become impossible to discover what the original temperature was when it was first recorded.

In the absence of the original observational values, the experiment cannot be replicated by independent investigators. Without the possibility of replication of the experiment, the experiment cannot qualify as science. If the experiment does not qualify as science, why hasn’t someone been investigated for misreprenting the use of taxpaer funding?


63 posted on 10/14/2012 1:14:56 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

W[eather] I[n] N[ame] [O]nly.


65 posted on 10/14/2012 1:33:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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