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1 posted on 10/05/2012 10:48:25 AM PDT by L,TOWM
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To: L,TOWM

Actually...I knew exactly what he meant....And Madison warned of it....Read 55 Men and the Constitution


2 posted on 10/05/2012 10:51:39 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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If that’s the way he honestly feels, then so be it. Rather have him be truthful than otherwise.


3 posted on 10/05/2012 10:51:43 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015010345430;view=2up;seq=82;q1=senate;start=21;size=10;page=search;num=74#page/74/mode/2up


4 posted on 10/05/2012 10:53:22 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: L,TOWM

he is wrong for saying he was wrong.


5 posted on 10/05/2012 10:53:53 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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"Clearly in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you're gonna say something that doesn't come out right

So once again the Mass Media spin put on the statement is completely at odds with what was actually said.

6 posted on 10/05/2012 10:54:50 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: L,TOWM

Maybe he meant the 47% is really 50%.


7 posted on 10/05/2012 10:54:53 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: L,TOWM
this is nothing for anyone to make a big deal about.

its a mere campaign housekeeping move intended to clean up and remove an obozo line of attack.

in the last few weeks of this campaign, RR wants to be totally on offense.

10 posted on 10/05/2012 10:57:52 AM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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This is really just preparing for the next debate. You know Dopey Barack will be bringing up the 47% comment over and over and this allows Romney to deflect.


11 posted on 10/05/2012 10:58:57 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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This is really just preparing for the next debate. You know Dopey Barack will be bringing up the 47% comment over and over and this allows Romney to deflect.


12 posted on 10/05/2012 10:58:57 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: L,TOWM

Yes, it was wrong.

The actual number is more like 52%.


13 posted on 10/05/2012 11:00:01 AM PDT by vonkayel
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What he said never bothered me. He was conflating several issues so understood literally, it wasn’t right. But I understood the point he was trying to make.

One point is that nearly half the country pays no income tax. If that number reaches 50% we are toast.

A second issue is that fact that so many people, and companies too, are dependent on government. That percentage is also very high, and if it reaches beyond a certain point, again, we’re toast.

A third issue is that, among the people and companies too that are dependent on government, many of them can’t conceive of a world in which they are not dependent. The likelihood is that they are never going to vote for less government. So a politician running on a platform that is based on limited government is going to have a hard time selling it. Repubs like to blab on about tax cuts but tax cuts don’t inspire anyone and most especially they don’t inspire people who see themselves as dependent. Explaining the whole notion of limited government and freedom to such people requires you to explain concepts we tend to take for granted, the connection between freedom, and happiness, freedom and prosperity. Freedom for its own sake. And still you aren’t going to reach some people.

Fourthly, there is a certain core of people who will never vote for a Repub no matter what. You’re probably wasting your time with them.

These four groups are not identical, though there is a pretty good overlap. Conflating them was rhetorical shorthand. I think most people got it.


15 posted on 10/05/2012 11:02:46 AM PDT by marron
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Sensible move. True or not, his comments here were poorly presented and susceptible to being spun against him. Right now, he’s basking in the post-debate glow of his performance on Wednesday, and statements such as this for once are attracting little criticism in the MSM. Should this issue come up in a future debate now, he can simply say ‘look, I mis-spoke. I’ve already said that unequivocably, weeks ago. Let’s move on to discuss what’s important.’

Contrary to popular belief, I don’t think the general public necessary expect politicians to be infallible. Admitting a minor mistake in one’s words during one speech out of thousands can actually help to develop a reputation for honesty and straight dealing.


16 posted on 10/05/2012 11:04:47 AM PDT by Zajko (Never wrestle with a pig. You'll both get dirty, but the pig likes it.)
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He was wrong.

While there are waaaaaay too many Americans who want nothing more than an ever increasing government handout, it is not 47%.

A large portion of that 47% is seniors, who largely support Romney. Another large portion is poor young people who don’t have much now, but aspire to great things later in life.

Better to speak to their hopes and dreams instead of appearing to just write them off as a lost cause.


19 posted on 10/05/2012 11:09:15 AM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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And people DON’T like politicians who get caught.

Then he needs to come clean and admit Extortion-Care in Massachusetts or otherwise was wrong.

Further he needs to admit coming back with an “replaced” Extortion-Care where people are at the mercy of insurance company dictates, is also wrong.

And finally, if he took any kind of compensation as governor of Massachusetts, from Massachusetts, health care on taxpayers dime, then he has actually indicted himself of mooching off productive taxpayers, along with the rest of the GOP and Dem hypocrites mooching off their extravagant retirements, Exemptions from Extortion-Care, salaries and compensations self-hiked, free transportation, aides, recesses, campaigning while working, etc., on and on and on.


20 posted on 10/05/2012 11:14:06 AM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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What was wrong was that he inferred that all of those on government support, including people on unemployment, would not vote for him.

If you are unemployed and collecting unemployment and really WANT a job, Romney is the guy for you.

If you just want to sit back, collect that unemployment check and then graduate onto welfare and medicare, vote for Obama.


22 posted on 10/05/2012 11:17:27 AM PDT by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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Media’s little game is boring. A little appeasement may calm them down.


24 posted on 10/05/2012 11:18:46 AM PDT by granada
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He's right that the Democrats can count on about 47% of the vote no matter what. He could have been more precise on who those people are - many seniors receiving checks and paying little or no income tax vote conservative. But he's right to the extent that there's a coalition that forms the base of the Democratic Party made up of government workers, people who work for government-funded enterprises of various kinds like universities and think tanks, government unions, the usual-suspect ethnic groups (with a lot of overlap with the other categories), etc. Add all of that up and you're pretty much at 47%.

The Democrats could run the Boston Strangler and that 47% would vote for him just because he's got a "D" behind his name.

The really bad news is that they've nearly succeeded in forming a 51% absolute majority. And with immigration, their victory seems assured, assuming that there isn't some major reaction by the oppressed 49% (there seems no movement toward that at this time).

We're basically screwed.

27 posted on 10/05/2012 11:37:06 AM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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I’m sure Romney is extremely ready to discuss his 47% remark in a debate. The Obama team probably knows what will happen if Obama brings it up, and they know it won’t make Obama shine.


28 posted on 10/05/2012 11:41:01 AM PDT by cymbeline
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A liberal flip-flopper - get used to seeing the liar and double faced Mitt Happens in a Romney White House.

Ugghh.... I’m not expecting anything to change under him. The only positive thing is hopefully America will stop declining.

That’s good enough for me as I can’t stand his social policies - and you all know what they are.


29 posted on 10/05/2012 11:45:28 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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