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JOHN HUSSMAN: We Are Already In Recession, And The Economists Just Don't Know It Yet
TBI ^ | 10-1-2012 | Joe Weisenthal

Posted on 10/01/2012 3:54:57 AM PDT by blam

JOHN HUSSMAN: We Are Already In Recession, And The Economists Just Don't Know It Yet

Joe Weisenthal
Oct. 1, 2012, 5:00 AM

In his latest weekly letter, investor John Hussman reiterates his belief that we are already in recession.

In regard to a U.S. recession, keep in mind that the consensus of economic forecasters – not to mention central bankers - has never recognized the start of a recession in real-time, largely because their assessments typically revolve around a “stream of anecdotes” approach that treats each new economic report with equal weight, without distinguishing leading/lagging and upstream/downstream structure. For example, we’ve noted that real consumption growth and real income lead new factory orders, which lead employment. Yet observers have already largely dismissed the soft data on income, consumption and factory orders thanks to last week’s single outlier on new weekly unemployment claims.
As for the payroll report this Friday, we fully expect that September payroll growth will ultimately be reported as a significant loss in jobs. The main wrinkle, as I’ve noted frequently, is that the “real-time” employment figures in the early months of a recession are often hundreds of thousands of jobs off from where they are ultimately revised (see the economic notes in Late Stage, High Risk). So while Friday’s employment report seems likely to be disappointing, the data tends to be heavily revised, and even the seasonal adjustments amount to hundreds of thousands of jobs, so our expectations for a negative figure may or may not be realized in the initial report.

Last week, the second quarter GDP growth figure was revised down to 1.3%, from the previous estimate of 1.7%. Durable goods orders plunged at a 13.2% rate in August,

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Click here to read Hussman's full report.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: depression; economy; recession; recovery

1 posted on 10/01/2012 3:55:03 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
MARC FABER: I'm Bearish On Stocks, Gold And Everything Else

"Marc Faber is still convinced that there's a 100 percent chance of a global recession and that stocks are due for a big sell-off."

2 posted on 10/01/2012 3:58:08 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Markets Are In Rally Mode — Europe Is Having A Huge Surge
3 posted on 10/01/2012 4:11:30 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Oh hey.
Lets dump trillions into the economy and prop it up to make it look good.

No nevermind that as soon as we stop dumping money the economy collapses.

That will be Bush’s/Romney’s fault


4 posted on 10/01/2012 4:28:09 AM PDT by South Dakota (shut up and drill)
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To: South Dakota

The end will come when the world asks:
Are dollars money?


5 posted on 10/01/2012 4:38:14 AM PDT by jonose
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To: jonose

The world has been an economic basket case for a long time.


6 posted on 10/01/2012 4:52:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: blam

Using a 6 year olds math ability it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to subtract the deficit spending(which goes into GDP figure for some bogus reason) from GDP to see we have been at negative 8 percent for three years running.


7 posted on 10/01/2012 4:55:25 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: blam

The economists know that the recession is back,they just won’t talk about it until after the election.


8 posted on 10/01/2012 5:03:07 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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We Are Already In Recession, And The Economists Just Don't Know It Yet

Many do know it - but they won't admit it until Obama is out of office and they can pin it on his successor.


9 posted on 10/01/2012 6:50:22 AM PDT by Iron Munro (US Embassies Come and Go But An Obama Apology Lasts Forever)
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Recession, Mr. Hussman? Hardly. Depression is more like it with 1 American of 5 either unemployed or under employed. This is NOT an accident. It is by DESIGN; the implementation of Cloward-Piven strategy by Dear Leader and the Donkey Party's regulators in the executive branch.
10 posted on 10/01/2012 10:53:30 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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