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California bans gay "conversion" therapy for minors
Reuters ^ | Sept. 30, 2012 | Mary Slosson

Posted on 09/30/2012 11:02:11 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

SACRAMENTO (Reuters) - Governor Jerry Brown has signed a bill barring a controversial therapy that aims to reverse homosexuality in minors, the measure's sponsor said on Sunday, making California the first state to ban a practice many say is psychologically damaging.

The move marked a major victory for gay rights advocates who say so-called conversion therapy, also called reparative therapy, has no medical basis because homosexuality is not a disorder.

The bill's sponsor, state Senator Ted Lieu, a Democrat from Torrance, said in a statement that Brown had signed the bill. An announcement from the governor's office was expected on Sunday.

The bill prohibits children and teens under 18 from undergoing sexual orientation change efforts. It got support from the California Psychological Association and the California Board of Behavioral Sciences, among others.

"LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender) youth will now be protected from a practice that has not only been debunked as junk science, but has been proven to have drastically negative effects on their well-being," Human Rights Campaign President Chad Griffin said in a statement.

He urged other states to follow California's lead.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: californication; celebrateperversity; childabuse; comeforyourchildren; corruptingaminor; homosexualagenda; indoctrination; lavendermafia; manboylove; mentalhealth; moonbeam; moralabsolutes; orwelliannightmare; parentalrights; pervertsonparade; pinkjournalism; quackery; religion; sexpositiveagenda; sexualizingchildren; sin; sodomites; thoughtcrime

1 posted on 09/30/2012 11:02:13 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Must explain all the rumblings of earthquakes around the area lately... God is not pleased at all.


2 posted on 09/30/2012 11:07:55 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Let’s find out how they got gay in the first place....Soliciting by some pervert sounds about right.


3 posted on 09/30/2012 11:09:48 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I wonder if this measure runs afoul of the First Amendment to say nothing of doctor/patient privilege. Sure and who’s going to test it to find out?


4 posted on 09/30/2012 11:10:46 AM PDT by Robwin
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This will aid in the de-population of California.More taxpayers leaving is just what their robust economy needs./sarc


5 posted on 09/30/2012 11:11:50 AM PDT by snowtigger (.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This is beyond outrageous.

Senator Ted Lieu is literally a child abuser.

As is Brown and every a$$hole in the legislature who supported the bill.

Every one of these sons of bitches can go to hell.


6 posted on 09/30/2012 11:14:45 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The Anti-Mental Health Bill.

Stay neurotic, kids.

7 posted on 09/30/2012 11:20:49 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Free ThinkerNY
How did homosexuality become "normal" in the first place?

During the 60s and 70s, the American Psychological Association were harrangued and harrassed by homosexual activists, eventually being browbeat in to agreeing it was normal, so they would be left alone. Nothing scientific about that.

This is how homosexuality became to be viewed as normal, contrary to common sense and human physiology.

8 posted on 09/30/2012 11:27:36 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Soon I hope some entrepreneurs set up conversion clinics just across the border in Arizona, leaving California no choice but to prohibit parents taking their children out of state.

I imagine next to the clinic would be shops selling foie gras, as well low tax cheap cigarettes and gasoline not to California standards.


9 posted on 09/30/2012 11:27:47 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So does this mean churches in CA cannot counsel kids who are struggling with their sexuality?


10 posted on 09/30/2012 11:30:19 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Some much for the term “choice”


11 posted on 09/30/2012 11:39:35 AM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The headline is misleading.

Conversion “from” has been banned — conversion “to” continues to be supported and subsidized.


12 posted on 09/30/2012 11:40:22 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Free ThinkerNY

A terrible misfortune for the children of California and a grim harbinger for the rest of the nation.

But it’s clear that the Leftist forces of Political Correctness are ready to sacrifice all on the altar of their pet delusions.


13 posted on 09/30/2012 11:44:36 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Get to them by 8 or its too late.” - Led Tieu. < /s >


14 posted on 09/30/2012 11:45:18 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: Robwin

Justice Roberts would approve of the new law. He doesn’t want to hurt the image of the court.


15 posted on 09/30/2012 11:46:14 AM PDT by heye2monn (A)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Lets see if I have this correct.. As a Parent you are free, and I presume the intellectual fortitude to decide to Murder your Children, but NOT the sense to CURE your Child.. Is that it?.. Apparently, YES.. yep... :/


16 posted on 09/30/2012 11:46:47 AM PDT by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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To: Robwin

Next will be formalizing restrictions on parents bringing moral arguments into discussions of sexual matters.

The stated goal of the Sex Positive Agenda advocates has long been to end all moral arguments over all sexual pairings regardless of sex, age, relation, marital status, number, or species of partner(s).

They seek to see everyone sexually active at every age and consider abstinence to be an unhealthy suppression of sexual desires.

Religion is now against the law in Caliphony. Thank a Communist.


17 posted on 09/30/2012 11:48:42 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Funny how gay “scount leaders” can coach boys into homosexuality but no one can talk them out of it until they reach 18.

Chickenhawk is in the chickenhouse. Teabagger is out of the closet.


18 posted on 09/30/2012 11:50:33 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: Jack Hammer
But it’s clear that the Leftist forces of Political Correctness are ready to sacrifice all on the altar of their pet delusions.

They are quite willing to sacrifice YOUR children to abortion and perversion. They need fresh meat and do not breed themselves.

19 posted on 09/30/2012 11:52:35 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Hell in a hand basket.


20 posted on 09/30/2012 11:55:22 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

But a minor can have a sex change....unreal


21 posted on 09/30/2012 11:58:52 AM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
How did homosexuality become "normal" in the first place?

In exactly the same way Chik-fil-A has been silenced.

22 posted on 09/30/2012 12:04:59 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: Free ThinkerNY

And the fascists are off! Speech considered psychologically damaging will be banned. The fascists have found their loophole. If you think it will stop at gay conversion therapy you have no idea. Of course speech that makes others feel “unsafe” will be included as psychologically damaging.


23 posted on 09/30/2012 12:18:01 PM PDT by kreitzer
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To: American Constitutionalist

“Must explain all the rumblings of earthquakes around the area lately... God is not pleased at all.”

Thought same thing, hate to be ‘medieval’ but I do think things like that.


24 posted on 09/30/2012 12:43:17 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: kreitzer

“Speech considered psychologically damaging will be banned. The fascists have found their loophole. If you think it will stop at gay conversion therapy you have no idea. Of course speech that makes others feel “unsafe” will be included as psychologically damaging.”

What a great lead in to ban Christian thinking.


25 posted on 09/30/2012 12:51:36 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So is this the protect the perverted homosexual act?


26 posted on 09/30/2012 12:55:14 PM PDT by DMG2FUN
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To: Free ThinkerNY
This is sad news for California.

There is no genetic test or procedure (experimental or otherwise) that can determine one's sexual orientation. When people claim to be gay and we believe them, what we're really doing is taking them at their word. We believe their claim, we believe their testimony and we believe their declaration that they are gay.

But there are some people who are suddenly skeptical when one claims to be ex-gay. They don't believe the ex-gay claim, they don't believe the ex-gay testimony nor their declaration that they are ex-gay.

When somebody uses a certain standard to measure the credibility of what one group says, but then refuses to use the same standard to measure the credibility of what another group says--thereby ignoring the claims of the second group (ex-gays)--he should ask himself why he believes one group and not the other... This is a double standard.

27 posted on 09/30/2012 12:58:14 PM PDT by scripter
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To: Free ThinkerNY

At this rate California’s population will soon be wetbacks and perverts...and that’s it.


28 posted on 09/30/2012 1:03:00 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive!)
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To: snowtigger
This will aid in the de-population of California.

NOOOOOOOO!

We need Kalifornians to stay in Kalifornia. I don't want them moving here and wrecking our state.

29 posted on 09/30/2012 1:18:38 PM PDT by Entrepreneur (In hoc signo vinces)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Don’t be fooled; this law will be construed to also included spiritual councel in faith communities.


30 posted on 09/30/2012 1:58:19 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So you can’t seek treatment for a mentally ill child. Welcome to the new “normal”.


31 posted on 09/30/2012 2:24:50 PM PDT by Eagles6 (DNC 2012 Convention: Celebrating infanticide and sodomy. Denying God.What could possibly go wrong?)
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To: Robwin

“I wonder if this measure runs afoul of the First Amendment to say nothing of doctor/patient privilege. Sure and who’s going to test it to find out?”

Doctor/patient privilege only exists to the extent that liberals allow it, since conservatives are TOO WHIPPED to speak up.


32 posted on 09/30/2012 2:35:17 PM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: what's up

“So does this mean churches in CA cannot counsel kids who are struggling with their sexuality?”

Of course not. They just cannot say, without risking loss of license, which option is healthier.

Any parent there, that has ANY doubt about ANY of their kids, better get the hell out of there before the kid (or, more likely, his school) figures it out and gets a judge to force the parents to keep him there.


33 posted on 09/30/2012 2:38:30 PM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If conservatives and/or Republicans were smart, they would amend this legislation to ban conversion therapy for pedophiles. Maybe some liberals would see the absolute lunacy of this legislation, but I’m fearful some would actually support it.


34 posted on 09/30/2012 2:45:31 PM PDT by conservativefreak
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To: Sacajaweau

Yep-—education and media is all about blurring the lines and children become completely confused.

Children are vulnerable since they can’t know reality—except how adults portray it. It becomes embedded—the ideas instilled early— even if warped and perverted. It is why the Afghani boys love being dressed like girls and love being sodomized by the men-—it is an honor, brings them gifts and power. Behavior is learned and modeled.

Top that off with normal sexual identity formation where the Latency period is where healthy girls will bond with girls between the ages of 6-13 and actually prefer being with girls and normal boys will bond with boys and prefer being with boys

AND THEN -—the perverts in the schools which Zero and Jerry Brown have given total power in public schools-—tells the little boys and girls that they are homosexual, if they prefer the same sex. BINGO——the child will KNOW they are homosexual. The adults told them so and they know they prefer the same sex.

Think of the confusion THAT will cause——and that is WHY the sodomites want to get to Kindergarten children, because they prefer same sex until puberty when maturation takes them to the appreciation of “other” instead of the self—and like.

This sexual identity formation is crucial and Sex ED is designed to corrupt the normal maturation-—remove morality from sex acts and focus kids attention on sex organs during latency when they have no NATURAL interest in sex.

Lukacs and the Cultural Marxists designed Sex Ed to corrupt the kids to collapse society.

http://smashabanana.blogspot.com/2011/06/gyorgy-lukacs-we-will-ruin-mankind-one.html


35 posted on 09/30/2012 3:40:43 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Patient: Is it a boy or a girl?
Obstetrician: Now, I think it’s a little early to start imposing roles on it, don’t you? Now, a word of advice. You may find that you suffer for some time a totally irrational feeling of depression. PND is what we doctors call it. So it’s lot’s of happy pills for you, and you can find out all about the birth when you get home. It’s available on Betamax, VHS, and Super 8.


36 posted on 09/30/2012 5:17:08 PM PDT by the_daug
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