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Cardinal Dolan Slams Giving Morning After Pills to 14-Year-Olds
Life News ^ | September 25, 2012 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 09/25/2012 2:08:24 PM PDT by NYer

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To: NYer

But will he vote Democrat, or will he say to fellow Catholics, maybe it`s time we stop spitting on Jesus??? Just sayin


51 posted on 09/26/2012 6:18:43 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR BUST)
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To: NYer

Obamacare cares for our youts!


52 posted on 09/26/2012 6:55:56 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: NYer

So....let’s get this straight...

You CAN’T let a kid in NYC have a Big Gulp soda from 7-Eleven because the chemicals in sodas this big are bad for him/her/it...

BUT...

You CAN let a kid in NYC have a pill that has chemicals in it that actually KILLS a baby in the womb, and that’s OK.

Ok... Got it.

Liberals are truly demented and mentally ill.


53 posted on 09/26/2012 8:47:49 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NYer; sickoflibs; Gilbo_3; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne

How anyone who calls themselves Christian, Catholic, etc., can knowingly vote for Democrats or any other liberal pushing this crap is just mind boggling.

You’re voting for the Death Party, the party that sanctions the murder of infants...pretty much end of discussion.


54 posted on 09/26/2012 8:51:15 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale; NYer; sickoflibs; Gilbo_3; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne

” How anyone who calls themselves Christian, Catholic, etc., can knowingly vote for Democrats or any other liberal pushing this crap is just mind boggling.”

There was a thread yesterday stating that Notre Dame has invited Obama back to speak (BEFORE THE ELECTION)

I hope ND doesn’t forget to cover the crucifix for Obama like last time.

These people aren’t christians. Nothing like it.


55 posted on 09/26/2012 8:57:41 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; NYer; sickoflibs; Gilbo_3; DoughtyOne

“...Notre Dame has invited Obama back to speak (BEFORE THE ELECTION)...”

It is just absolutely mind-boggling that a University that calls itself Catholic brings this Marxist POS in to speak.

Where’s the Archbishop and Cardinal, and other officials stepping up to say “No thanks, Mr. Obama.”

F***ing cowards. Or worse, complicit accomplices.


56 posted on 09/26/2012 9:19:23 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale; stephenjohnbanker; NYer; Gilbo_3; DoughtyOne
RE :”It is just absolutely mind-boggling that a University that calls itself Catholic brings this Marxist POS in to speak. Where’s the Archbishop and Cardinal, and other officials stepping up to say “No thanks, Mr. Obama.

Yep, after the Republicans decided that the birth control mandate in Obama-care was low hanging political fruit to nail Obama on by appearing to defend the Church beliefs, and it wasnt hurting him (Obama) as intended I noted here that the Catholic Church is an unreliable Ally to stick your neck out for. In other words it was not low hanging fruit.

Republicans can defend the Church on Monday and Tuesday they are slamming the same Republicans for hurting the poor.

With friends like them....

57 posted on 09/26/2012 9:28:51 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: NFHale; NYer; sickoflibs; Gilbo_3; DoughtyOne

” It is just absolutely mind-boggling that a University that calls itself Catholic brings this Marxist POS in to speak.”

Obama has declared war on christians in general, and catholics in particular. I just read that the catholic vote is + 15 for Obama. Mind boggling doesn’t begin to describe this.


58 posted on 09/26/2012 9:42:38 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: count-your-change

Have you ever heard of chastity and saving sexual acts until the marriage bed?

It’s what the Bible teaches. Are you not believing the Bible?


59 posted on 09/26/2012 9:47:10 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; NYer; Gilbo_3; DoughtyOne

Sometimes, I really wish you’d stop making sense and being right...

But it’s more than that; it’s compromised, liberal Catholic officials, it’s parishes and diocese that don’t practice what they preach - or preach “the World” instead of “The Word”.

They have a duty and an obligation to provide a right road for their “flock” and fall down miserably on the job.

If were a Priest, I’d say it clearly; you can’t sit here and call yourself a Christian and vote for a party that includes the so-called “right” to murder an infant as a no-comprise part of their platform.

I’d take the consequences.

If half the congregation got up and walked out, then I’d say to those remaining “Now you know who your neighbors really are, and what they really believe in.”

I look at it sort of in the Sam Adams vein: “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”


60 posted on 09/26/2012 9:53:29 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“...I just read that the catholic vote is + 15 for Obama. ...”

Like I said; we’re compromised. Pretty badly.


61 posted on 09/26/2012 9:55:52 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

” I’d take the consequences.

If half the congregation got up and walked out, then I’d say to those remaining “Now you know who your neighbors really are, and what they really believe in.”

This would, of course put you in the minority.


62 posted on 09/26/2012 9:57:30 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Yep, Catholics and Jews, two really brilliant sets of people when it comes to voting. I guess you could toss Blacks in there too, as abused as they are by the Left, and yet they keep right on voting for the folks supporting policies that even see them destroyed before they’re born.

I guess that makes us pretty high and mighty, but the populace at large voted this turd into the White House.

We should all be hanging our heads...


63 posted on 09/26/2012 10:02:24 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Imagine how bad these global protests would be, if Obama hadn't won us s o many new friends.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; NYer; Gilbo_3; DoughtyOne; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Impy
RE :”Obama has declared war on christians in general, and catholics in particular. I just read that the catholic vote is + 15 for Obama. Mind boggling doesn’t begin to describe this.

That is what I was getting at.
How many who call themselves Catholics (baptized as Catholics) want that ‘free’ Birth control for themselves and for others and dont give a crap if their church objects to being forced to being involved in it?
And they agree with the Church on taxes and handouts being moral?

Want to win? Here

Prioritize your battles correctly
Have a realistic game plan
Act as a team
Know those you assume are your allies.
Have a backup plan

Instead the R party acts like a undisciplined gang of individuals who stumble around and look like fools, like the partner that always gets slapped around in the comedy team.

64 posted on 09/26/2012 10:10:38 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: DoughtyOne

The MSM has already declared Obama the winner. They are in for a shock, methinks.


65 posted on 09/26/2012 10:11:11 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I’m used to it.

Doesn’t faze me, brother. Ive lost “friends” and acquaintances over the years because I’m an unrepentant Patriot.

I consider those folks “sunshine patriots” and not worth worrying about any longer.


66 posted on 09/26/2012 10:13:49 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: sickoflibs

” Instead the R party acts like a undisciplined gang of individuals who stumble around and look like fools, like the partner that always gets slapped around in the comedy team. “

I think the main problem is a split party...the GOPe, and the conservatives. Our party is splintered like never before.


67 posted on 09/26/2012 10:14:04 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: NFHale

” Doesn’t faze me, brother. Ive lost “friends” and acquaintances over the years because I’m an unrepentant Patriot.”

So have I.


68 posted on 09/26/2012 10:16:26 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I’d rather be on the right side of things than go with the crowd just because something is “uncomfortable”.

F*** ‘em.


69 posted on 09/26/2012 10:18:39 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

“sunshine patriots”

If TSHTF, these clowns better not expect me to protect them.
I have my own to care for.


70 posted on 09/26/2012 10:22:25 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

They won’t.

They’ll be busy ratting you out to Thugzilla, or screaming in terror as their houses are broken into, their stuff ransacked, and their families terrorized by choose-any-category of aggrieved, angry victim groups that happen to be partying at that time.

Either way, you’ll be pre-occupied, brother, as we will all will be.

Either on the defense...or on offense.


71 posted on 09/26/2012 10:28:57 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

The Catholic Church wants Christian Socialism.

They are very open about it. Have been for decades. My mother in law talks about it often.


72 posted on 09/26/2012 10:48:38 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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RE :”I think the main problem is a split party...the GOPe, and the conservatives. Our party is splintered like never before.

...With no commonly accepted leader.
If the objective is to be in the minority outside of the WH and just block things , as 2009 to 2010, it works pretty good. In fact Dems approval tanked.

But if the goal is to get the voters to put your party in charge and the other in the minority because they think you can run things then it doesnt work so well.

Also this party has this strange ritual of nominating these lib/mod establishment candidates (Romney/McCain) after they spend months making believe they are someone else. Another feature of the fractured party.

73 posted on 09/26/2012 11:16:20 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: Salvation

And exactly when did I stop beating my wife or If I’m so smart, why aren’t I rich?


74 posted on 09/26/2012 11:25:38 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: AAABEST

amen


75 posted on 09/26/2012 11:58:56 AM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: NYer

If I recall in past cases, schools were prohibited from even dispensing aspirin without parental approval or a prescription.

If the schools handed out an aspirin to be placed between the girl’s knees, they wouldn’t need a morning after pill.

SIECUS (planned parenthood’s sex positive sex education arm) is decidedly anti-abstinence because they are decidedly PRO-sexually active teens (and under).

It is an evil agenda that circumvents age of consent laws and laws against corrupting minors.


76 posted on 09/26/2012 12:39:14 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

What they are pushing for, is a no lose for them.

1. Obama wins because of the subterfuge
2. They’ve laid the ground-work for people to think they’ve been robbed, when Obama gets trounced.

Either way the Left sees it as a victory for them. They can game either eventuality for the next four years, keeping Lefties stewing in their own juices.

That’s why I think it’s imperative that the right makes a massive stink out of the deceit of the DNCp after the election.

We MUST put them on notice for what they’ve been doing.

I’m talking pickets, massive crowds, and letting them know we are sick of it. We should even pick a major network, and give it hell until it’s on it’s knees.


77 posted on 09/26/2012 12:54:04 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Imagine how bad these global protests would be, if Obama hadn't won us s o many new friends.)
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To: NYer

How in the world can these school nurses be legally allowed to prescribe birth control medications? Doesn’t that need to be done by an MD, and don’t these girls need to have a physical exam before they are put on any sort of birth control? I understand that Plan B is an abortifacient drug that is not “preventative” in any way, but what is the injection they are discussing? As far as I know the injection form of birth control (Depo-Provera) requires a prescription.

Even though I am a Catholic and I agree with Cardinal Dolan that they should be promoting abstinence the broader issue that has no connection with my religious beliefs are the health issues these young women could have in regards to being prescribed medications that may harm them in the future, or may provide a false sense of security (not all bc pills work the same for all people). I don’t understand how fear of teen pregnancy can lead people to advocating these protocols which do more to endanger the lives and future fertility of these children than anything else. I don’t understand how parents can agree to give control of their children’s education, nutrition, and health decisions over to government schools either, so I guess that’s why none of this makes any sense to me...

I’m still trying to figure out how liberals parse “keep your laws off my body” with support of “Obamacare” in the broad sense - much less these individual issue concerns. It’s all insanity to me.


78 posted on 09/26/2012 2:03:19 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: NYer

This must be opposed, but liberals could argue the Catholic church affirms that infant even of non-Catholic parents may be baptized if in danger of death even if the parents are opposed to it.

Why not mention the graver reason for giving abortion pills, that it is murder, even though that stance is known.


79 posted on 09/26/2012 2:32:35 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: sickoflibs

Correct on all counts


80 posted on 09/26/2012 3:25:42 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: DoughtyOne

” I’m talking pickets, massive crowds, and letting them know we are sick of it. We should even pick a major network, and give it hell until it’s on it’s knees.”

I have been advocating the same thing for some time now.


81 posted on 09/26/2012 3:39:41 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Okay great.


82 posted on 09/26/2012 4:23:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Imagine how bad these global protests would be, if Obama hadn't won us s o many new friends.)
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To: redgolum

“The Catholic Church wants Christian Socialism.”

Contributions are down in this economy; there is no upside for the Catholic Church (liberal or conservative) if The Sultan wins re-election. In fact, it would only serve to bolster the enemies of the Church to publicly oppose/oppress it without consequence...


83 posted on 09/26/2012 5:57:46 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: count-your-change

I believe the Dems would give girls as young as 9 yrs old morning after and/or birth control pills... not because the girls need it, but to indoctrinate them into their world view. Sex is okay, just take a pill. Never mind what these pills will do to the future ability for these young girls to conceive a child once they truly want to build a family. It’s all about destroying the family, and I do believe it is about destroying our future generations that will never be born. Who do they really wish to populate this planet? Just take a look at which people, which religion they heartily defend.... Islam. Highly doubt they are shoving morning after pills down a Muslim child’s throat.


84 posted on 09/26/2012 9:54:10 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: count-your-change

But, dispensing these pills will encourage MORE sexual activity so it’s all the same argument.


85 posted on 09/26/2012 11:01:32 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: kearnyirish2

Please send this link to all of your friends: Very well done.

http://youtu.be/D9vQt6IXXaM


86 posted on 09/27/2012 6:39:20 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: count-your-change
Are you being obtuse or do you really not know the basics of Catholic moral theology about sex?

The Catechism, section 2353, reads:

Fornication is carnal union between an unmarried man and an unmarried woman. It is gravely contrary to the dignity of persons and of human sexuality which is naturally ordered to the good of spouses and the generation and education of children. Moreover, it is a grave scandal when there is corruption of the young.

In section 2348 we read, "All the baptized are called to chastity" and in the following section we read, "Married people are called to live conjugal chastity, others practice chastity in continence.". ("Continence" means "no sex," for those of you in Rio Linda.)

In section 2390, we read "The sexual act must take place exclusively within marriage. Outside of marriage it always constitutes a grave sin and excludes one from sacramental communion."

I trust that's clear enough.

87 posted on 09/27/2012 9:21:41 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Campion

Not my fault if you weren’t paying attention. Maybe Dolan should slam 14 year olds (male and female) having sex in the first place.

Or is it just the “morning after” pill that is the problem?


88 posted on 09/27/2012 10:29:06 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

Cardinal Dolan defends and believes the teaching of the Church, which I’ve now presented. If you had a question, it’s been answered.


89 posted on 09/29/2012 12:10:20 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Campion

Thank you for informing me that I have had my questions answered, that’s a great relief.


90 posted on 09/29/2012 12:26:42 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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