Posted on 09/21/2012 4:09:32 AM PDT by blam
Good for the French, and good luck to them.
I concur; see my previous post.
What is scary is Liberal Socialist France seems to be more honest about Islam than our own politicians and media....even some of our GOP politicians and media
Islam is the Problem
This is more of public safety issue.
Look at what we got the last time we agreed to limit our Constitutional rights for a "public safety" issue: The Department of Homeland Security and the TSA.
You have a point.
Anyway, talk is cheap. We’ll see how this turns out.
I think that we should not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Peaceful right of assembly to protest a grievance shouldn’t be illegal regardless of religion.
I’m all for riot batons, rubber bullets, and tear gas at the first sign of trouble, better safe than sorry. Better still, permits with a known number of protesters so that the police can plan ahead, and have legal justifications for arresting offenders who show up unannounced.
But I don’t think that any nation should pick and choose who has the right to be heard. I’m not a fan of slippery slope arguments, but...
Where, oh where, is the American backlash for this? I don’t see nearly the outrage I would have expected from something as horrific as what has been going on, but all I hear mostly is crickets.
Have we been so beaten down that we can no longer stand up straight and fight back?
And another one.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=340&invol=315
We are well aware that the ordinary murmurings and objections of a hostile audience cannot be allowed to silence a speaker, and are also mindful of the possible danger of giving overzealous police officials complete discretion to break up otherwise lawful public meetings. “A State may not unduly suppress free communication of views, religious or other, under the guise of conserving desirable conditions.” Cantwell v. Connecticut, supra, at [340 U.S. 315, 321] 308. But we are not faced here with such a situation. It is one thing to say that the police cannot be used as an instrument for the suppression of unpopular views, and another to say that, when as here the speaker passes the bounds of argument or persuasion and undertakes incitement to riot, they are powerless to prevent a breach of the peace. Nor in this case can we condemn the considered judgment of three New York courts approving the means which the police, faced with a crisis, used in the exercise of their power and duty to preserve peace and order. The findings of the state courts as to the existing situation and the imminence of greater disorder coupled with petitioner’s deliberate defiance of the police officers convince us that we should not reverse this conviction in the name of free speech.
Excellent post.
True, throughout European history there has been expulsions and mass xenophobia....I have German relatives who were expelled from Czechoslovakia right after WW II....in fact there were 10 million ethnic Germans deported from various European nations after WW II (you hear little discussion about this)
France is rising up to extreme Islam...and we see the rumblings in the Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, and other European nations
Yes, the Euros will not go down without a fight
Maybe they could chase them off using a bunch of French maids - or .50 cal....I'm easy.
Hollande is a joke and the muzzies gave him his margin of victory. He will do nothing.
But it would be an even more slippery slope to allow one group, or one religion, to make demands of others that no other group is making. Islam wants laws that prohibit any criticism of their religion.
So, do we make laws restricting the free speech rights of the vast majority so the feelings of a minority won't be hurt? Or do we make laws restricting the rights of the large majority because a volatile minority will riot if they don't get what they want?
Good idea.
They can’t even stop the rioters from burning down sections of Paris, but they think they will outright “ban” all protests and that’s going to go over well???
I’d be laughing if it weren’t so damn sad...
Hear! Hear! They will take advantage in order to deny us our rights, no matter which way it comes down - whether our own governments do it first (to shut them up), or their government does it later after they’ve “taken over” (or so they hope).
Control over the flow of information to people is what allows communities like this to remain ignorant, and teach their children the ways of hate. No more “politically correct” BS, and speaking straight truth is what is called for - even if it leads to violence in the streets on the part of the Muslim “protesters”. No more of this “pussy-footing” around - someone needs to stand up and say you have the right to be offended, but you don’t have the right to get violent about it, or it will be answered in kind.
All JMHO.
I wonder how many can connect the dots between WWII, and the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood, and its (now official governments) and various jihadi groups around the world?
How many realize that these people REALLY ARE/WERE Nazis, and their progeny that have remained mostly “untouched” after the war? This is a grand chess game, and most people have no clue who the players are, even though they themselves are the pawns on the board. This game has been going on for a very long time, and it’s not going to end any time soon, unfortunately... At least not without a lot of bloodshed, pain, and misery for everyone.
No longer can Americans make jokes about the French waving white flags.
We do that better than they do now.
There is none. Just as there was none in Feb. 1979 when the ragheads murdered our ambassador to Afghanistan.
Remember how that one turned out?
I predict a smoky night for the city of lights.
Without a fight? Hell, we forget Europeans *invented* most of the modern atrocities, including extermination on industrial scale. During the 90’s we saw a glimpse of it in the former Yugoslavia, in the heart of Europe.
Western civilization is just a far more efficient killer. Islamists will come to realize that probably too late.
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