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To: Dr.Zoidberg
"People should start buying gold in the half bar. Only accept it after it’s been sheared in half leaving the center exposed."

No need. Portable X-ray Fluorescence instruments are easily available and can readily distinguish between tungsten and gold. Non-destructive, no cutting/shearing needed.

19 posted on 09/18/2012 7:30:00 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

Portable XRF Instrument:

http://www.niton.com/en/


21 posted on 09/18/2012 7:32:00 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
No need. Portable X-ray Fluorescence instruments are easily available and can readily distinguish between tungsten and gold. Non-destructive, no cutting/shearing needed.

Thanks, Wonder.

Better living through (analytical) chemistry / chemical physics! (sound of grey_whiskers purring).

Cheers!

23 posted on 09/18/2012 7:32:56 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
"Portable X-ray Fluorescence instruments are easily available and can readily distinguish between tungsten and gold. Non-destructive, no cutting/shearing needed."

XRF machines are about $15K and really only detect the surface of the metal under test. They are also a tad tricky to use. If a bogus bar was tungsten and merely gold-plated, it would probably fail such a test. But if it started out as a genuine PAMP gold bar and was then drilled, like the bars pictured below (which are silver, not gold, and with lead inserts, not tungsten, but I show them for the fakery technique) with tungsten rods inserted, I have some doubt an XRF assay would reveal the fake core(s).

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyQSSmVcb6c

33 posted on 09/18/2012 7:48:23 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Not tungsten covered with gold — any fluorescence from the tungsten would not get through the gold covering layer.


55 posted on 09/18/2012 8:29:05 PM PDT by expat2
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To: Wonder Warthog

So, do you carry one of those with you and will it still work when the SHTF?

Life sure is complicated ain’t it?


61 posted on 09/18/2012 9:02:35 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average, they voted for oblabla.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
No need. Portable X-ray Fluorescence instruments are easily available and can readily distinguish between tungsten and gold. Non-destructive, no cutting/shearing needed.

Other distinguishing properties: tungsten has more than twice the electrical resistivity, and half the thermal conductivity of gold, so other tests can be devised that can be done with much simpler and less expensive equipment.

My paranoid side has me thinking that maybe these stories are a way to smoke out who has hidden gold assets, by setting up gold testing services, and having the IRS later visit the people whose gold was tested?

85 posted on 09/19/2012 2:37:17 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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